Anonymous
Post 07/20/2022 11:27     Subject: Unhappy that "y'all" is everywhere
Anonymous wrote:The south has ruined this country.


If you're a person who hates red necks, I have secret for you. They're everywhere. I remember the first time I visited a remote area of Maine and was stunned by the uneducated bumpkins. Same with upstate NY.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2022 11:23     Subject: Unhappy that "y'all" is everywhere
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's perfectly serviceable as a regionalism for... people from that region. But why is it everywhere now? What is the attraction to people who either are able to speak standard English or have their own native regionalisms? I would vastly prefer "youse guys" or even "yinz" if there were some reason to choose a folksy When people adopt "y'all" on purpose, what is the image they're aspiring to?


"People from that region"

"What is the image they're aspiring to?"

Your unattractive biases are showing, OP. You consider everyone from the South to have an "image" to which people should not "aspire." You seem ignorant of the fact that not everyone from an entire vast region is part of a monolith, marching in lockstep to whatever it is you find distasteful.

It's so very DCUM to make these broad and ignorant pronouncements like yours. But the petty focus on a term gaining some popularity? That's all you. Couldn't find something substantial or serious to complain about, I guess. [/quote

+1. I love you.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2022 11:22     Subject: Unhappy that "y'all" is everywhere
Anonymous wrote:It's perfectly serviceable as a regionalism for... people from that region. But why is it everywhere now? What is the attraction to people who either are able to speak standard English or have their own native regionalisms? I would vastly prefer "youse guys" or even "yinz" if there were some reason to choose a folksy When people adopt "y'all" on purpose, what is the image they're aspiring to?


I super agree with you. The use of y'all super annoys me. I've not seen it used as super extensively as you have. We should work super hard to shut this down.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2022 10:11     Subject: Unhappy that "y'all" is everywhere
I love saying y'all. And I'm from south asia
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2022 09:52     Subject: Unhappy that "y'all" is everywhere
Anonymous wrote:We lack a formal 2nd person plural in English. "Y'all" is, in my opinion, the best thing we have. I would never say "youse guys," how odd to even suggest it.

-from the west coast


"You all" works well.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2022 09:44     Subject: Unhappy that "y'all" is everywhere
If I encounter somebody that says this I immediately assume they’re an idiot.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2022 09:37     Subject: Unhappy that "y'all" is everywhere
Y'all is racist.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2022 08:44     Subject: Unhappy that "y'all" is everywhere
All o' yall need to loosen up so. Y'all'd've hated growing up in rural Appalachia like me then.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2022 08:37     Subject: Unhappy that "y'all" is everywhere
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's perfectly serviceable as a regionalism for... people from that region. But why is it everywhere now? What is the attraction to people who either are able to speak standard English or have their own native regionalisms? I would vastly prefer "youse guys" or even "yinz" if there were some reason to choose a folksy When people adopt "y'all" on purpose, what is the image they're aspiring to?



What is “yinz”? I have never heard this.

Signed a Memphian.


Short for you inz

Said fast it is yinz
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2022 08:37     Subject: Unhappy that "y'all" is everywhere
Anonymous wrote:Hip hop culture popularized it.


no, hip hop culture popularized you m$%$%&^ fu%^%s etc
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2022 08:35     Subject: Unhappy that "y'all" is everywhere
Anonymous wrote:"You guys" implies you are speaking to a male audience. Most of the time, people who use it are not. Y'all or "you all" makes the most sense.

Yinz is a stupid Pittsburgh thing. Talk about regional, OP, that's micro-regional. And STUPID because it doesn't even stand for anything. At least y'all means you all.


Wow. This is very classist. And "Yinz: is second person plural just as "y'all" is.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2022 08:31     Subject: Unhappy that "y'all" is everywhere
Anonymous wrote:because it’s offensive to say “hey guys!” or “how are you guys doing?” when talking to a mixed group of both women and men.

y’all isn’t offensive.


Offensive? Oh my..
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2022 08:24     Subject: Unhappy that "y'all" is everywhere
I'm from Alabama, OP - am I allowed to say y'all?

Agree with the PP that "all y'all" takes it up to the next level.

There's also "and them". E.g., "Larla and them are going out for margaritas later but I'm not sure if I can make it."
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2022 07:55     Subject: Unhappy that "y'all" is everywhere
I'm a product of my raising. I say hey ya'll and yes haw. I'm a redneck woman, I ain't no high class broad.

Texan. BTW these words are from Gretchen Wilson's song Redneck Woman.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2022 06:55     Subject: Unhappy that "y'all" is everywhere
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We lack a formal 2nd person plural in English. "Y'all" is, in my opinion, the best thing we have. I would never say "youse guys," how odd to even suggest it.

-from the west coast


We have one. It's the word you.


That’s not a formal 2nd person plural, now is it?


English doesn't have formal pronouns anymore. Some languages, like German, still have them. In German, Sie is both the singular and plural formal you. In German you know the count from the verb, but that's not the case with English.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_pronouns

https://www.germanwithantrim.com/du-vs-ihr-vs-sie-beginner-german-with-herr-antrim-lesson-4/