Anonymous
07/08/2022 23:51
Subject: How much money is UMD going to get from the B1G conference?
Gravitational pull would seem to lead Clemson, Florida State, and Miami to the SEC, Arizona, ASU, Colorado, and Utah to the Big 12, and Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and Cal to the Big 10. Notre Dame is the question mark.
Alternative to all this is for PAC 12 to form a quick alliance with the ACC.
Alternative to all this is for PAC 12 to form a quick alliance with the ACC.
Anonymous
07/08/2022 23:46
Subject: How much money is UMD going to get from the B1G conference?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If people are interested in this, you should follow Greg Flugaur on twitter. He has good sources in the Big10.
Two things matter to the big10 presidents, who ultimately decide who is allowed in. Money and research (meaning research money and the AAU). Who brings in the money? ND. Maybe UNC. Maybe UVA. Stanford?
They want money more than AAU - Notre Dame is not an AAU school and they no doubt want them more than any other school.
+1 no doubt, follow the money but the Big 10 more than any other conference values the academic quality of the member. Even Nebraska was AAI when it was admitted.
AAU is just research. Notre Dame undergraduate is better than almost all of the Big 10 schools.
Anonymous
07/08/2022 23:18
Subject: How much money is UMD going to get from the B1G conference?
UMD football is bad. They can’t fill the stadium unless it’s filled with Penn State fans.
Anonymous
07/08/2022 23:08
Subject: How much money is UMD going to get from the B1G conference?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If people are interested in this, you should follow Greg Flugaur on twitter. He has good sources in the Big10.
Two things matter to the big10 presidents, who ultimately decide who is allowed in. Money and research (meaning research money and the AAU). Who brings in the money? ND. Maybe UNC. Maybe UVA. Stanford?
They want money more than AAU - Notre Dame is not an AAU school and they no doubt want them more than any other school.
+1 no doubt, follow the money but the Big 10 more than any other conference values the academic quality of the member. Even Nebraska was AAI when it was admitted.
Anonymous
07/08/2022 23:02
Subject: How much money is UMD going to get from the B1G conference?
Anonymous wrote:Uva and Unc are in a tough spot
1) financially … they lower the payout to member schools B1G and SEC by not bringing in more than is already paid each school.
2) legally… the iron clad GOR they signed requires 12 of the schools they would leave behind to let them out which is a pipe dream and ESPN has no intention of giving up its 15 year bargain of the century.
3) politically …. There is no way Uva / Unc get to go to great conferences and leaving NC state and VT in crummy conferences. The states have put the kabosh on that before and both of those schools have more alumni / legislators and voters in their respective states.
The reality is sinking in and it’s fascinating
I think UNC has more sports financial value than UVA.
Anonymous
07/08/2022 22:59
Subject: How much money is UMD going to get from the B1G conference?
Anonymous wrote:If people are interested in this, you should follow Greg Flugaur on twitter. He has good sources in the Big10.
Two things matter to the big10 presidents, who ultimately decide who is allowed in. Money and research (meaning research money and the AAU). Who brings in the money? ND. Maybe UNC. Maybe UVA. Stanford?
They want money more than AAU - Notre Dame is not an AAU school and they no doubt want them more than any other school.
Anonymous
07/08/2022 22:52
Subject: How much money is UMD going to get from the B1G conference?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If people are interested in this, you should follow Greg Flugaur on twitter. He has good sources in the Big10.
Two things matter to the big10 presidents, who ultimately decide who is allowed in. Money and research (meaning research money and the AAU). Who brings in the money? ND. Maybe UNC. Maybe UVA. Stanford?
I wanted to add that I wouldn't be surprised if GA Tech is invited to the Big10. Atlanta TV market, recruiting base for the OSU/Michigan/PSU in the south plus lots of research money. Yes they are not great athletically but it makes sense. Along the same lines, I can see Miami (FL) in the big10.
No Georgia Tech. Georgia dominates Atlanta. The B1G won’t be 2nd fiddle and less than half the Atlanta pie is a loss of money for existing members.
Georgia and the SEC dominate Georgia. But if GA Tech joins the Big10 and all the cable companies have to carry the big10 network to see any GA Tech stuff, there's a lot of money in those fees.
A lot …. But not nearly enough. The B1G schools are getting in the range of 100 million a year after USC and UCLA come in. GT generates nowhere near that and would cost schools money to split the pie with them.
^^ same goes with UNC and UVA. The only schools that can carry their weight in the B1G are Stanford (San Francisco) and Notre Dame ( Catholics nation wide).
I think Cal is bigger in San Francisco than Stanford.
Anonymous
07/08/2022 19:55
Subject: How much money is UMD going to get from the B1G conference?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:clemson, uva, miami and unc to SEC is pretty much a done deal.
The big 10 now has the most national championships than any other conference now that ucla has joined.
MD made the move for money and it was a very smart move.
It was a no brainer for UMD. The ACC was draining UMD of its locational monetization and value. UMDs excellent but humble aura had the ACC fooled till UMD flexed its muscle. The B1G came after UMD. UMD didn’t contact the B1G and that gives an idea of UMDs power.
What does that mean?? Locational monetization??
Inside the beltway of the #4 media market in the country. Brings the Big Ten teams right in the heart of the wealthiest state and region of the country that’s highly populated.
The Big now has NYC, Philly, Wash/Balt, LA… and the Bay Area is next. It’s strategy of media and research giant schools is highly intelligent and lucrative.
Lincoln and Ames
They are along for the ride.
It is Iowa City.
Anonymous
07/08/2022 19:52
Subject: How much money is UMD going to get from the B1G conference?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Over on Burnt Orange there is a substantial sentiment for wanting to back out of the SEC and join the B1G for more money and the prestige.
Holy Smokes that would be the end game. You can bet Florida would want in as well
Why would they get more money there?
Projections for the B1G are in the 100 million per school now that LA is pulled in. The Big Ten now has the top 4 media markets
NYC
Wash/Balt
Chicago
LA
And also
Philly / Pittsburg
Cleveland/Columbus/Cincinnati
Detroit
Indianapolis
Minneapolis/ Twin Cities
Milwaukee
Next take will be San Francisco (Stanford or Cal)
The research dollars are also insane.
Pi
Anonymous
07/08/2022 19:35
Subject: How much money is UMD going to get from the B1G conference?
Anonymous wrote:Over on Burnt Orange there is a substantial sentiment for wanting to back out of the SEC and join the B1G for more money and the prestige.
Holy Smokes that would be the end game. You can bet Florida would want in as well
Why would they get more money there?
Anonymous
07/08/2022 17:32
Subject: How much money is UMD going to get from the B1G conference?
Anonymous
07/08/2022 17:26
Subject: How much money is UMD going to get from the B1G conference?
Anonymous
07/08/2022 17:15
Subject: How much money is UMD going to get from the B1G conference?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Question from a non sports person. If more schools join the Big 10, does the conference name change to Big 17 or Big 20 or however many schools are in the Conference?
They are at 14 now, hence the name change to the B1G
No. Branding is everything. They have had 11+ schools since the 90's and smartly did not change the name then.
Anonymous
07/08/2022 17:15
Subject: How much money is UMD going to get from the B1G conference?
Anonymous wrote:^^ left out Chicago, Indianapolis, Milwaukee, Detroit, Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati … any others?
Twin Cities
Anonymous
07/08/2022 17:12
Subject: How much money is UMD going to get from the B1G conference?
Over on Burnt Orange there is a substantial sentiment for wanting to back out of the SEC and join the B1G for more money and the prestige.
Holy Smokes that would be the end game. You can bet Florida would want in as well
Holy Smokes that would be the end game. You can bet Florida would want in as well