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Anonymous wrote:I’ll add, I’d care more if she appeared to make the same effort to be a mother as she does to promote her movie.

Are you this harsh on mothers who give their children up for adoption as well? There are some women who make a mistake in becoming mothers, and then try to rectify it. There’ll be more of them soon in the Republicans’ America.

Totally different. She just stated in a People article that she didn’t want to be around her daughter. Her exact words. Her daughter will read this one day. People that give their children up for adoption don’t have access to them…she does. Stop making excuses for such a trash human.

She was referencing her postpartum depression, not how she feels now: "Those were really tough years," says Panettiere, who suffered from severe postpartum depression after Kaya was born. "I could relate to a lot of those storylines like the alcoholism and postpartum depression. They hit close to home." Panettiere sought treatment for her depression, but still found herself struggling — and increasingly independent on alcohol to get through the day. "I never had the feeling that I wanted to harm my child, but I didn't want to spend any time with her," says Panettiere, who didn't drink during her pregnancy but fell off the wagon after Kaya was born. "There was just this gray color in my life."

Anonymous wrote:Where are your threads about the many, many, many men in Hollywood who have a child or children they do not see, often from multiple mothers?

This thread is not about a man, so it doesn’t matter. There was an article on People recently about Hayden, so a thread was started to discuss. If there’s an article about a man recently that I dislike, I will post a new thread. Is that ok with you?

Anonymous wrote:Where are your threads about the many, many, many men in Hollywood who have a child or children they do not see, often from multiple mothers?

We had one on Nick Cannon but that was deleted.

Anonymous wrote:Where are your threads about the many, many, many men in Hollywood who have a child or children they do not see, often from multiple mothers?

Which ones did you start?

Anonymous wrote:Where are your threads about the many, many, many men in Hollywood who have a child or children they do not see, often from multiple mothers?

Exactly. The DCUM harpies are out in full force on this one with no empathy whatsoever.

Where are your threads about the many, many, many men in Hollywood who have a child or children they do not see, often from multiple mothers?

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll add, I’d care more if she appeared to make the same effort to be a mother as she does to promote her movie.

Are you this harsh on mothers who give their children up for adoption as well? There are some women who make a mistake in becoming mothers, and then try to rectify it. There’ll be more of them soon in the Republicans’ America.

Totally different. She just stated in a People article that she didn’t want to be around her daughter. Her exact words. Her daughter will read this one day. People that give their children up for adoption don’t have access to them…she does. Stop making excuses for such a trash human.

If her child is in Ukraine I doubt she has access to them right now.

She's had the ability to have access to her child for years...but has chosen not to. What does your statement have to do with anything? The war in Ukraine is just a few months in.

Why are you so spun up about this? If you want to bemoan neglected children, there are kids a hell of a lot worse off than the daughter of a film star and a heavyweight champ. Hayden was denied her childhood by her parents so she still is a child in many ways. It's better that her kid doesn't see her often. She'd likely only damage her. Hurt people hurt people. And frankly, your mental health doesn't seem particularly robust, fixating on her like this.

You’re the one that posted a paragraph on this, girlfriend. You’re the outlier defending her. Lots of hurt people don’t hurt. They mature and get help. Being a victim of abuse doesn’t excuse being an a*hole to your own kid.

And yet you come back to respond to me and spew more vitriol about a person you don't know and will never know. And I'm not the outlier, read the thread again.

It seems like there are so many of these random girls who end up sort of minor celebrities because they had horrible abusive parents who wanted them to be famous. They're never great talents with lasting careers, or even great beauties. They do a show and a couple of movies, briefly partner with a brand, make enough money to not really have to work again, but have these wretched lives. It's really sad.

Anonymous wrote:I thought she was great in Heroes and Nashville so I’m rooting for her. I hope her daughter is well. I got the impression that dad had a strong extended family network in Ukraine (his brother is mayor of Kyiv) and she has no supportive family, so sending her to live in what was a very nice country with lots of cousins and so forth seems like it was a good call, rather than bouncing her around to a mom that wasn’t fit to care for her.

"I never had the feeling that I wanted to harm my child, but I didn't want to spend any time with her," says Panettiere, who didn't drink during her pregnancy but fell off the wagon after Kaya was born. "There was just this gray color in my life."

The actress would sneak away to drink, and her relationship with Klitschko, whom she began dating in 2009, began to crumble. "He didn't want to be around me," she recalls. "I didn't want to be around me. But with the opiates and alcohol I was doing anything to make me feel happy for a moment. Then I'd feel worse than I did before. I was in a cycle of self-destruction."

At her lowest point, "I would have the shakes when I woke up and could only function with sipping alcohol," says Panettiere. In 2018, the year Nashville ended, the actress made the heartbreaking decision to send Kaya to live with Klitschko (from whom she had split) in Ukraine. "It was the hardest thing I ever had to do," she says. "But I wanted to be a good mom to her — and sometimes that means letting them go."
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Anonymous wrote:I’ll add, I’d care more if she appeared to make the same effort to be a mother as she does to promote her movie.

Are you this harsh on mothers who give their children up for adoption as well? There are some women who make a mistake in becoming mothers, and then try to rectify it. There’ll be more of them soon in the Republicans’ America.

Totally different. She just stated in a People article that she didn’t want to be around her daughter. Her exact words. Her daughter will read this one day. People that give their children up for adoption don’t have access to them…she does. Stop making excuses for such a trash human.

If her child is in Ukraine I doubt she has access to them right now.

She's had the ability to have access to her child for years...but has chosen not to. What does your statement have to do with anything? The war in Ukraine is just a few months in.

Why are you so spun up about this? If you want to bemoan neglected children, there are kids a hell of a lot worse off than the daughter of a film star and a heavyweight champ. Hayden was denied her childhood by her parents so she still is a child in many ways. It's better that her kid doesn't see her often. She'd likely only damage her. Hurt people hurt people. And frankly, your mental health doesn't seem particularly robust, fixating on her like this.

You’re the one that posted a paragraph on this, girlfriend. You’re the outlier defending her. Lots of hurt people don’t hurt. They mature and get help. Being a victim of abuse doesn’t excuse being an a*hole to your own kid.

DP.

You can (for now) force a woman to give birth but you can't force them to be a parent. There are plenty of women, just as there are plenty of men, who are perfectly fine just walking away from their children and not being in their lives.

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Anonymous wrote:There are rumors she had a really terrible childhood and was sexually abused as a minor in Hollywood. I always think of her with sympathy (which is only when I see her name in the news).

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The rumors I've heard is that she was sexually abused by her parents and passed around Hollywood.

I thought she was great in Heroes and Nashville so I’m rooting for her. I hope her daughter is well. I got the impression that dad had a strong extended family network in Ukraine (his brother is mayor of Kyiv) and she has no supportive family, so sending her to live in what was a very nice country with lots of cousins and so forth seems like it was a good call, rather than bouncing her around to a mom that wasn’t fit to care for her.

She had a terrible childhood and was clearly taken advantage of and given drugs. Pretty sure she was sexually abused or assaulted in Hollywood. She states her reasons for sending her daughter to live with her father, I actually think it was the right decision.

There is a good cover story in the new People about her. She looks lovely.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll add, I’d care more if she appeared to make the same effort to be a mother as she does to promote her movie.

Are you this harsh on mothers who give their children up for adoption as well? There are some women who make a mistake in becoming mothers, and then try to rectify it. There’ll be more of them soon in the Republicans’ America.

Totally different. She just stated in a People article that she didn’t want to be around her daughter. Her exact words. Her daughter will read this one day. People that give their children up for adoption don’t have access to them…she does. Stop making excuses for such a trash human.

That’s a common symptom of PPD. Get educated about it.

Girlfriend, I'm educated. How about you get a clue? You're likely a neglectful parent yourself, or you don't have kids. It's a symptom of PPD, but no decent mother would put something like that in print for her child to see later. It literally defies any parenting instinct. This was years ago, and she still has nothing to do with her daughter.

Stop making excuses for this person. Plenty of people have PPD...they get help and move on. It's not an excuse to be a crappy parent for the duration of you kid's childhood.

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