Anonymous
07/08/2022 16:19
Subject: Re:Columbia U. Won’t Submit Data to ‘U.S. News’ Rankings After Professor Alleged False Information
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rankings are just one of the references and factors to consider especially when coming up with an initial list.
It's helpful for the purpose.
Ranking obsessed people want to see it go away.
+1. I’m a Columbia alum and I’m not happy they submitted crappy data but I do think they’re doing the right thing to take some time and figure out what certain metrics do mean and what they can reasonably report rather than sweeping it under the rug. I’m proud the Columbia professor blew the whistle. It takes some balls to bite then hand that feeds you, even if you’re tenured.
Columbia is not not taking time to think about anything. Columbia refused to submit the more detailed data that USNWR wanted because it would show that the data they submitted earlier was fraudulent. As a result, USNWR kicked Columbia out of the rankings.
Does it have to do with General Studies students or is it some other things?
Anonymous
07/08/2022 16:15
Subject: Re:Columbia U. Won’t Submit Data to ‘U.S. News’ Rankings After Professor Alleged False Information
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Rankings are just one of the references and factors to consider especially when coming up with an initial list.
It's helpful for the purpose.
Ranking obsessed people want to see it go away.
+1. I’m a Columbia alum and I’m not happy they submitted crappy data but I do think they’re doing the right thing to take some time and figure out what certain metrics do mean and what they can reasonably report rather than sweeping it under the rug. I’m proud the Columbia professor blew the whistle. It takes some balls to bite then hand that feeds you, even if you’re tenured.
Columbia is not not taking time to think about anything. Columbia refused to submit the more detailed data that USNWR wanted because it would show that the data they submitted earlier was fraudulent. As a result, USNWR kicked Columbia out of the rankings.
Anonymous
07/08/2022 12:59
Subject: Re:Columbia U. Won’t Submit Data to ‘U.S. News’ Rankings After Professor Alleged False Information
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"U.S. News said that because Columbia has been unable to provide satisfactory responses to its request, it was moving the university to being "Unranked" in National Universities. The action means Columbia no longer has a numerical rank in the 2022 National Universities, 2022 Best Value Schools, and 2022 Top Performers on Social Mobility because those rankings used data from the university’s submission."
Womp womp womp
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/07/07/the-fallout-continues-us-news-pulls-columbia-university-from-its-2022-rankings/?sh=38f3f0f4a768
I am sure applications will drop precipitously and prestige will plummet.
Not.
Maybe not. But their reputation as an institution will
Huh whut? Will this hurt them or won't it? My opinion remains that it will not.
There are many other colleges who might be substantively damaged by this, but I do not believe Columbia is among them. I guess we will wait and see.
No need to wait. Columbia will beg to come back in next year.
Wouldn't "next year" involve waiting?
Anonymous
07/08/2022 12:48
Subject: Re:Columbia U. Won’t Submit Data to ‘U.S. News’ Rankings After Professor Alleged False Information
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"U.S. News said that because Columbia has been unable to provide satisfactory responses to its request, it was moving the university to being "Unranked" in National Universities. The action means Columbia no longer has a numerical rank in the 2022 National Universities, 2022 Best Value Schools, and 2022 Top Performers on Social Mobility because those rankings used data from the university’s submission."
Womp womp womp
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/07/07/the-fallout-continues-us-news-pulls-columbia-university-from-its-2022-rankings/?sh=38f3f0f4a768
I am sure applications will drop precipitously and prestige will plummet.
Not.
Maybe not. But their reputation as an institution will
Huh whut? Will this hurt them or won't it? My opinion remains that it will not.
There are many other colleges who might be substantively damaged by this, but I do not believe Columbia is among them. I guess we will wait and see.
No need to wait. Columbia will beg to come back in next year.
Anonymous
07/08/2022 12:41
Subject: Re:Columbia U. Won’t Submit Data to ‘U.S. News’ Rankings After Professor Alleged False Information
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"U.S. News said that because Columbia has been unable to provide satisfactory responses to its request, it was moving the university to being "Unranked" in National Universities. The action means Columbia no longer has a numerical rank in the 2022 National Universities, 2022 Best Value Schools, and 2022 Top Performers on Social Mobility because those rankings used data from the university’s submission."
Womp womp womp
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/07/07/the-fallout-continues-us-news-pulls-columbia-university-from-its-2022-rankings/?sh=38f3f0f4a768
I am sure applications will drop precipitously and prestige will plummet.
Not.
Maybe not. But their reputation as an institution will
Huh whut? Will this hurt them or won't it? My opinion remains that it will not.
There are many other colleges who might be substantively damaged by this, but I do not believe Columbia is among them. I guess we will wait and see.
Anonymous
07/08/2022 12:12
Subject: Re:Columbia U. Won’t Submit Data to ‘U.S. News’ Rankings After Professor Alleged False Information
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"U.S. News said that because Columbia has been unable to provide satisfactory responses to its request, it was moving the university to being "Unranked" in National Universities. The action means Columbia no longer has a numerical rank in the 2022 National Universities, 2022 Best Value Schools, and 2022 Top Performers on Social Mobility because those rankings used data from the university’s submission."
Womp womp womp
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/07/07/the-fallout-continues-us-news-pulls-columbia-university-from-its-2022-rankings/?sh=38f3f0f4a768
I am sure applications will drop precipitously and prestige will plummet.
Not.
Maybe not. But their reputation as an institution will
Anonymous
07/08/2022 12:09
Subject: Re:Columbia U. Won’t Submit Data to ‘U.S. News’ Rankings After Professor Alleged False Information
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"U.S. News said that because Columbia has been unable to provide satisfactory responses to its request, it was moving the university to being "Unranked" in National Universities. The action means Columbia no longer has a numerical rank in the 2022 National Universities, 2022 Best Value Schools, and 2022 Top Performers on Social Mobility because those rankings used data from the university’s submission."
Womp womp womp
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/07/07/the-fallout-continues-us-news-pulls-columbia-university-from-its-2022-rankings/?sh=38f3f0f4a768
I am sure applications will drop precipitously and prestige will plummet.
Not.
probably not for next year but if it continues
It's an Ivy league school in NYC with great grad schools. They'll be fine
Not what the school thinks, thats why they cheated
Anonymous
07/08/2022 11:51
Subject: Re:Columbia U. Won’t Submit Data to ‘U.S. News’ Rankings After Professor Alleged False Information
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"U.S. News said that because Columbia has been unable to provide satisfactory responses to its request, it was moving the university to being "Unranked" in National Universities. The action means Columbia no longer has a numerical rank in the 2022 National Universities, 2022 Best Value Schools, and 2022 Top Performers on Social Mobility because those rankings used data from the university’s submission."
Womp womp womp
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/07/07/the-fallout-continues-us-news-pulls-columbia-university-from-its-2022-rankings/?sh=38f3f0f4a768
I am sure applications will drop precipitously and prestige will plummet.
Not.
probably not for next year but if it continues
It's an Ivy league school in NYC with great grad schools. They'll be fine
Anonymous
07/08/2022 11:50
Subject: Re:Columbia U. Won’t Submit Data to ‘U.S. News’ Rankings After Professor Alleged False Information
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"U.S. News said that because Columbia has been unable to provide satisfactory responses to its request, it was moving the university to being "Unranked" in National Universities. The action means Columbia no longer has a numerical rank in the 2022 National Universities, 2022 Best Value Schools, and 2022 Top Performers on Social Mobility because those rankings used data from the university’s submission."
Womp womp womp
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/07/07/the-fallout-continues-us-news-pulls-columbia-university-from-its-2022-rankings/?sh=38f3f0f4a768
I am sure applications will drop precipitously and prestige will plummet.
Not.
probably not for next year but if it continues
Anonymous
07/08/2022 11:40
Subject: Re:Columbia U. Won’t Submit Data to ‘U.S. News’ Rankings After Professor Alleged False Information
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would love to see the rankings go away
+ a billion
eff the rankings!!!!
Says someone from a no name school?
Anonymous
07/08/2022 11:35
Subject: Re:Columbia U. Won’t Submit Data to ‘U.S. News’ Rankings After Professor Alleged False Information
Anonymous wrote:"U.S. News said that because Columbia has been unable to provide satisfactory responses to its request, it was moving the university to being "Unranked" in National Universities. The action means Columbia no longer has a numerical rank in the 2022 National Universities, 2022 Best Value Schools, and 2022 Top Performers on Social Mobility because those rankings used data from the university’s submission."
Womp womp womp
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/07/07/the-fallout-continues-us-news-pulls-columbia-university-from-its-2022-rankings/?sh=38f3f0f4a768
I am sure applications will drop precipitously and prestige will plummet.
Not.
Anonymous
07/08/2022 11:33
Subject: Re:Columbia U. Won’t Submit Data to ‘U.S. News’ Rankings After Professor Alleged False Information
"U.S. News said that because Columbia has been unable to provide satisfactory responses to its request, it was moving the university to being "Unranked" in National Universities. The action means Columbia no longer has a numerical rank in the 2022 National Universities, 2022 Best Value Schools, and 2022 Top Performers on Social Mobility because those rankings used data from the university’s submission."
Womp womp womp
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/07/07/the-fallout-continues-us-news-pulls-columbia-university-from-its-2022-rankings/?sh=38f3f0f4a768
Womp womp womp
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/07/07/the-fallout-continues-us-news-pulls-columbia-university-from-its-2022-rankings/?sh=38f3f0f4a768
Anonymous
07/08/2022 11:07
Subject: Re:Columbia U. Won’t Submit Data to ‘U.S. News’ Rankings After Professor Alleged False Information
Anonymous wrote:Rankings are just one of the references and factors to consider especially when coming up with an initial list.
It's helpful for the purpose.
Ranking obsessed people want to see it go away.
+1. I’m a Columbia alum and I’m not happy they submitted crappy data but I do think they’re doing the right thing to take some time and figure out what certain metrics do mean and what they can reasonably report rather than sweeping it under the rug. I’m proud the Columbia professor blew the whistle. It takes some balls to bite then hand that feeds you, even if you’re tenured.
Anonymous
07/08/2022 11:01
Subject: Columbia U. Won’t Submit Data to ‘U.S. News’ Rankings After Professor Alleged False Information
US news is nonsense. UNC went up in rankings after it got caught giving diplomas to illiterates for 2 decades. There is obvious cheating and probably bribery going on. It wouldn’t even be illegal to bribe so why wouldn’t it happen?
That’s why the world rankings are probably best. They appear dispassionate and more results oriented.
That’s why the world rankings are probably best. They appear dispassionate and more results oriented.
Anonymous
07/07/2022 13:06
Subject: Columbia U. Won’t Submit Data to ‘U.S. News’ Rankings After Professor Alleged False Information
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The ivy worship on this site is funny. Finally an elite school punished for misdeeds.
University of Chicago is the WORST offender at manipulating their stats.
When I applied, U of C was struggling to fill its classes. The place gamed the system and is now a top-ranked school, with absolutely no change in anything except a huge marketing plan that includes inviting just about anyone to apply. It's a sick organization, even if it's a great school.
lol