Anonymous
Post 06/26/2022 07:31     Subject: 2023 is critical in Virginia

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Democrats are against women and children. See school closures. It will take decades to win me back, sorry. BTW, any Virginia resident who wants an abortion can simply go to DC.


Hate to break it to you, but as soon as the GQP controls the White House, House and Senate, abortion in DC will be illegal.

And if the argument is that they can just go get it in another state (or district), what’s the point of blocking it in Virginia?
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2022 17:20     Subject: 2023 is critical in Virginia

Anonymous wrote:Democrats are against women and children. See school closures. It will take decades to win me back, sorry. BTW, any Virginia resident who wants an abortion can simply go to DC.


Hate to break it to you, but as soon as the GQP controls the White House, House and Senate, abortion in DC will be illegal.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2022 17:14     Subject: 2023 is critical in Virginia

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:15 weeks seems reasonable, that’s gestational limit for the majority of European countries. Only 8% of US abortions occur after 13 weeks.

There will be still be ways for women to obtain abortion on demand.


Agreed. 20-24 weeks would be better, but 15 weeks (over 3 months) is plenty of time. Article also says, "He <<Youngkin>> said he supports exceptions for rape, incest and cases where the life of the mother is at risk."

So - what's the fear here really? Stop the hysteria please.


15 weeks isn't "enough time" when severe issues show up on the 20.week scan.


Or the recent news case about the woman who was 16 weeks pregnant in Malta. How do doctors trust that their judgment about risk to the life of the mother will be respected? Do they need to wait for a court order before operating when the woman is dying?

Also, is it a life or isn’t it? Why do the circumstances of conception (rape, incest) matter if this is about protecting life?

If only 8% of abortions occur after 13 weeks and most of those because of health issues, why do we need this ridiculous ban?
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2022 16:51     Subject: 2023 is critical in Virginia

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:15 weeks seems reasonable, that’s gestational limit for the majority of European countries. Only 8% of US abortions occur after 13 weeks.

There will be still be ways for women to obtain abortion on demand.


Agreed. 20-24 weeks would be better, but 15 weeks (over 3 months) is plenty of time. Article also says, "He <<Youngkin>> said he supports exceptions for rape, incest and cases where the life of the mother is at risk."

So - what's the fear here really? Stop the hysteria please.


15 weeks isn't "enough time" when severe issues show up on the 20.week scan.


+1

Plus 15 weeks is very early for girls/younger women who may not be aware of pregnancy symptoms or figure out what to do.

It should be a decision for a girl/woman and her doctor.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2022 16:46     Subject: 2023 is critical in Virginia

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's alienate as many voters as possible! While we are placing blame, let's not forget the liberals who refused to vote for Hillary and got us in the mess in the first place!


+1

I blame Bernie and all Bernie supporters.


But not the 62m deplorables.


The point.
Your head.


Oh we get it. You’re trying to shift blame away from the people responsible for Trump.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2022 16:15     Subject: 2023 is critical in Virginia

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:15 weeks seems reasonable, that’s gestational limit for the majority of European countries. Only 8% of US abortions occur after 13 weeks.

There will be still be ways for women to obtain abortion on demand.


Agreed. 20-24 weeks would be better, but 15 weeks (over 3 months) is plenty of time. Article also says, "He <<Youngkin>> said he supports exceptions for rape, incest and cases where the life of the mother is at risk."

So - what's the fear here really? Stop the hysteria please.

How do you prove the aforementioned PP? How does a woman or girl prove she’s being abused or was raped? Does she have to agree to press charges? What if she is in a DV situation?
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2022 15:16     Subject: 2023 is critical in Virginia

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:15 weeks seems reasonable, that’s gestational limit for the majority of European countries. Only 8% of US abortions occur after 13 weeks.

There will be still be ways for women to obtain abortion on demand.


Agreed. 20-24 weeks would be better, but 15 weeks (over 3 months) is plenty of time. Article also says, "He <<Youngkin>> said he supports exceptions for rape, incest and cases where the life of the mother is at risk."

So - what's the fear here really? Stop the hysteria please.


15 weeks isn't "enough time" when severe issues show up on the 20.week scan.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2022 13:55     Subject: 2023 is critical in Virginia

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:15 weeks seems reasonable, that’s gestational limit for the majority of European countries. Only 8% of US abortions occur after 13 weeks.

There will be still be ways for women to obtain abortion on demand.


Agreed. 20-24 weeks would be better, but 15 weeks (over 3 months) is plenty of time. Article also says, "He <<Youngkin>> said he supports exceptions for rape, incest and cases where the life of the mother is at risk."

So - what's the fear here really? Stop the hysteria please.


It’s not up to Youngkin it’s up to Lucas she’s crushed him at every turn thank god

Youngis a criminal just like his crap spoiled kid who should’ve in jail for
Trying to vote illegally but daddy called on favors

Youngkin is a grade a liar


he lied about election fraud he’s a liar
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2022 13:53     Subject: 2023 is critical in Virginia

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:15 weeks seems reasonable, that’s gestational limit for the majority of European countries. Only 8% of US abortions occur after 13 weeks.

There will be still be ways for women to obtain abortion on demand.


Agreed. 20-24 weeks would be better, but 15 weeks (over 3 months) is plenty of time. Article also says, "He <<Youngkin>> said he supports exceptions for rape, incest and cases where the life of the mother is at risk."

So - what's the fear here really? Stop the hysteria please.


+1. Especially since the state Senate in Virginia is controlled by Democrats who can block any bill Youngkin or his Republican allies introduce.

Anonymous
Post 06/25/2022 13:51     Subject: 2023 is critical in Virginia

Anonymous wrote:I don't want to hear a single peep out of those dumb, white NOVA women who voted for this man based on a single issue when they ban abortion.

You reep what you sew


I don't want to hear a single peep out of those dumb DCUM posters - always looking for every excuse to polarize - who think "reap" should be spelled "reep."
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2022 13:50     Subject: 2023 is critical in Virginia

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's alienate as many voters as possible! While we are placing blame, let's not forget the liberals who refused to vote for Hillary and got us in the mess in the first place!


+1

I blame Bernie and all Bernie supporters.


But not the 62m deplorables.


The point.
Your head.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2022 13:47     Subject: 2023 is critical in Virginia

Anonymous wrote:15 weeks seems reasonable, that’s gestational limit for the majority of European countries. Only 8% of US abortions occur after 13 weeks.

There will be still be ways for women to obtain abortion on demand.


Agreed. 20-24 weeks would be better, but 15 weeks (over 3 months) is plenty of time. Article also says, "He <<Youngkin>> said he supports exceptions for rape, incest and cases where the life of the mother is at risk."

So - what's the fear here really? Stop the hysteria please.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2022 13:15     Subject: 2023 is critical in Virginia

Anonymous wrote:There are already stories out of states where doctors are having to have women wait until they're in sepsis to abort ad only that counts as "life of the mother". The dead or dying fetus isn't enough.

And of course that sepsis can kill women and cost them their fertility and that's what Youngkin wants here.

You have to be actively risking organ failure to prove your health is at risk.


New poster. I am collecting stories of women who are in the situation you mention above. If you have any articles you can link, names of states or cities or other details I can use to search, please post them. Thank you.

I fear it is going to take the grotesquely horrible deaths of women, and a huge amount of publicity about those deaths, to get some people's attention on the cost of these abortion bans and restrictions.

We are tragically going to end up with an American version of Savita Halappanavar -- the otherwise healthy 31-year-old who died unnecessarily of sepsis because she happened to miscarry in the Republic of Ireland in 2012, and doctors could not give her an abortion because her totally unviable fetus still had a heartbeat. Her death finally spurred Ireland to end its draconian abortion ban.

Witness also the case right now of Andrea Prudente, the American who miscarried while on vacation in Malta and was told she could not have an abortion to remove the fetus because it had a heartbeat (though she had no amniotic fluid and the fetus could not survive). Maltese doctors knew she was at huge risk for sepsis and put her on antibiotics but would not remove the fetus. The Maltese doctors even delayed giving Prudente clearance to travel, further prolonging her ordeal and increasing her risk of infection and death. She finally was flown to Spain yesterday and had the abortion but only after this nightmare ordeal in Malta.

We need to collect stories like these and spread the word that women here are going to be told in some cases that they must retain a totally unviable fetus in their bodies at grave risk to themselves.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2022 12:52     Subject: 2023 is critical in Virginia

Anonymous wrote:Democrats are against women and children. See school closures. It will take decades to win me back, sorry. BTW, any Virginia resident who wants an abortion can simply go to DC.


What is wrong with you youngkin is a liar

CRT is not and never ever was taught in VA schools not once

GOP in VA is destroying va only saving grace is Lucas

Youngkin and the big lie go hand in hand are you nuts he will never let you vote legitimately again why is your vote more than anyone else’s oh no he’s going in 2024 no more republicans ever they are all criminal liars

There was never election fraud or crt I have a Brooklyn bridge to sell you

And gop straight up raising g taxes and taking away social security you are a moron

As for abortion rights again you are a complete idiot
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2022 12:50     Subject: 2023 is critical in Virginia

Anonymous wrote:Democrats are against women and children. See school closures. It will take decades to win me back, sorry. BTW, any Virginia resident who wants an abortion can simply go to DC.


No one wants to win you back.

Do you realize how large Virginia is? And how little public transportation there is?
Please explain how a pregnant 15 year old (no license, no income) can “simply” get from Appalachia, Virginia to DC?
If you’re on a roll, do Tangier and Abington too.