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Anonymous wrote:I imagine the same people denying this here are the ones who - despite not living in Glover Park - spam the Glover Park listserv with identical musings telling Glover Park how we all have it wrong and how they are right and just and true.

The truth is as that petition says that DCPS's current plan to build a large school at Foxhall (and not expand seats at Stoddert) would require kids from Glover Park to travel 2 miles to fill it.

The posters here complain about whether a map is final, or that an expansion that doesn't add seats is an expansion, or what DCPS's plan is or some other lawyerly reading of words. The plan is to build a large school. To fill the school, they will force kids from Glover Park to travel to it. DCPS hasn't filed the plan form in triplicate to satisfy the people above.

I was gonna say, the original post looks to be verbatim from the listserv.

Who should I vote for to piss of this 'poster' who keeps spamming the listserv? Duncan was my first choice.

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Anonymous wrote:I imagine the same people denying this here are the ones who - despite not living in Glover Park - spam the Glover Park listserv with identical musings telling Glover Park how we all have it wrong and how they are right and just and true.

The truth is as that petition says that DCPS's current plan to build a large school at Foxhall (and not expand seats at Stoddert) would require kids from Glover Park to travel 2 miles to fill it.

The posters here complain about whether a map is final, or that an expansion that doesn't add seats is an expansion, or what DCPS's plan is or some other lawyerly reading of words. The plan is to build a large school. To fill the school, they will force kids from Glover Park to travel to it. DCPS hasn't filed the plan form in triplicate to satisfy the people above.

I was gonna say, the original post looks to be verbatim from the listserv.

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Anonymous wrote:Fox Hall elementary makes no sense unless it is part of a larger plan to shifting feeder elementary schools away from Deal to Hardy, Wells and McFarland. It’s the only thing that makes sense. If I was DCPS I would do it slowly so you are not fighting all of NW all at once.

If you are in NW do not be surprised when your middle is changes in the next few years.

[Foxhall and MacArthur actually mesh with what the Crowding Working Group recommended. Four new schools: a high school, a middle and two new elementaries, one in the southern part of the ward and one in the northern. With the new high school Hardy rolls out of Jackson Reed and in 10 years instead of being 3,000 students JR is 2,000. All they need to do now is add a middle school somewhere in the Deal boundaries so they can split Deal, and an elementary somewhere near Lafayette so they can alleviate the crowding there.

Though it seems like it'd be better if the Foxhall ES/Macarthur was closer to the population centers on Mass/Wisc. But DC gave away Guy Mason and Jelleff and screwed up ellington.

MacArthur yes, Foxhall no.

Foxhall is meant to take pressure off of Key and Mann, and possibly over time allow some adjustment of the Janney and Eaton boundaries where they abut Mann to take some pressure off of those schools. It's actually exactly where it needs to be, it's a spot that had a DCPS school for 60 years. Over half of the kids at Key now are closer to Foxhall than they are to Key.

MacArthur is meant to be Hardy's destination school. Ideally it would be close to Hardy so that anyone who can get to Hardy can get to Mac, and families who have kids split between the two can still have their kids travel together. But there just isn't a site there. In 2014, before the renovation, Frumin suggested moving Ellington rather than renovating it and using that building for a high school -- which is also the historic way those two buildings were used. That plan was shot down by Vincent Gray. Goulet was working for Gray at the time.

The Fox Hall location is in the worst possible position location for an elementary school because of the low density, the difficulty of access from the East and distance away from Mann, Janney and Eaton. That is why it was closed. The numbers just not add up for an elementary school in Fox Hall. There is just no way to make it work.

I know that Foxhall Facts are resistant to real world facts, like any good conspiracy theory, but I'm going to try.

Foxhall isn't particularly low density.

There are 141 public elementary schools in DC. Roughly one for every 4,000 residents. A good high-level way of gauging the density of an area is to look at the ANC boundary map. By law, ANC commissions have to be roughly 2,000 residents. You can see a map of ANC 3D here: https://www.anc3d.org/anc-map

ANC 3D corresponds almost exactly with the boundaries of Mann and Key. It has ten commissions, which means that roughly 20,000 people live there. If it had elementary schools at the rate of the rest of the city it would have five public elementary schools. You can tell the relative density of an area by looking at the size of the ANC districts; the smaller the district the denser the population. The districts around Foxhall aren't particularly large, they aren't even the largest in ANC 3D. 3D06, which contains the school, is one of the smaller districts in the ANC. Yes, there are green patches that have no residents -- but those aren't the areas around the school. The map shows it clearly.

There is plenty of population to support an elementary school there.

Yeah, foxhall isn't terrible. A reasonable size school on the Lab site would have been great for the community. But Goulet's friends and the community association pushed for the lab school's lease renewal. So really this entire mess is partially their fault.

For the lease renewal push Lab hired two lobbyists, Ben Young and Clare Bloch.

Ben Young is Mendelson's campaign finance chair.

Clare Bloch is Goulet's campaign co-chair.

This, right here, is the tell.

More people need to know about this. More people need to know what really went down. No wonder Jack Evans endorsed Goulet!

Wait, the guy who took kickbacks while CM? He still is in politics?

Anonymous wrote:I imagine the same people denying this here are the ones who - despite not living in Glover Park - spam the Glover Park listserv with identical musings telling Glover Park how we all have it wrong and how they are right and just and true.

The truth is as that petition says that DCPS's current plan to build a large school at Foxhall (and not expand seats at Stoddert) would require kids from Glover Park to travel 2 miles to fill it.

The posters here complain about whether a map is final, or that an expansion that doesn't add seats is an expansion, or what DCPS's plan is or some other lawyerly reading of words. The plan is to build a large school. To fill the school, they will force kids from Glover Park to travel to it. DCPS hasn't filed the plan form in triplicate to satisfy the people above.

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Anonymous wrote:Fox Hall elementary makes no sense unless it is part of a larger plan to shifting feeder elementary schools away from Deal to Hardy, Wells and McFarland. It’s the only thing that makes sense. If I was DCPS I would do it slowly so you are not fighting all of NW all at once.

If you are in NW do not be surprised when your middle is changes in the next few years.

[Foxhall and MacArthur actually mesh with what the Crowding Working Group recommended. Four new schools: a high school, a middle and two new elementaries, one in the southern part of the ward and one in the northern. With the new high school Hardy rolls out of Jackson Reed and in 10 years instead of being 3,000 students JR is 2,000. All they need to do now is add a middle school somewhere in the Deal boundaries so they can split Deal, and an elementary somewhere near Lafayette so they can alleviate the crowding there.

Though it seems like it'd be better if the Foxhall ES/Macarthur was closer to the population centers on Mass/Wisc. But DC gave away Guy Mason and Jelleff and screwed up ellington.

MacArthur yes, Foxhall no.

Foxhall is meant to take pressure off of Key and Mann, and possibly over time allow some adjustment of the Janney and Eaton boundaries where they abut Mann to take some pressure off of those schools. It's actually exactly where it needs to be, it's a spot that had a DCPS school for 60 years. Over half of the kids at Key now are closer to Foxhall than they are to Key.

MacArthur is meant to be Hardy's destination school. Ideally it would be close to Hardy so that anyone who can get to Hardy can get to Mac, and families who have kids split between the two can still have their kids travel together. But there just isn't a site there. In 2014, before the renovation, Frumin suggested moving Ellington rather than renovating it and using that building for a high school -- which is also the historic way those two buildings were used. That plan was shot down by Vincent Gray. Goulet was working for Gray at the time.

The Fox Hall location is in the worst possible position location for an elementary school because of the low density, the difficulty of access from the East and distance away from Mann, Janney and Eaton. That is why it was closed. The numbers just not add up for an elementary school in Fox Hall. There is just no way to make it work.

I know that Foxhall Facts are resistant to real world facts, like any good conspiracy theory, but I'm going to try.

Foxhall isn't particularly low density.

There are 141 public elementary schools in DC. Roughly one for every 4,000 residents. A good high-level way of gauging the density of an area is to look at the ANC boundary map. By law, ANC commissions have to be roughly 2,000 residents. You can see a map of ANC 3D here: https://www.anc3d.org/anc-map

ANC 3D corresponds almost exactly with the boundaries of Mann and Key. It has ten commissions, which means that roughly 20,000 people live there. If it had elementary schools at the rate of the rest of the city it would have five public elementary schools. You can tell the relative density of an area by looking at the size of the ANC districts; the smaller the district the denser the population. The districts around Foxhall aren't particularly large, they aren't even the largest in ANC 3D. 3D06, which contains the school, is one of the smaller districts in the ANC. Yes, there are green patches that have no residents -- but those aren't the areas around the school. The map shows it clearly.

There is plenty of population to support an elementary school there.

Yeah, foxhall isn't terrible. A reasonable size school on the Lab site would have been great for the community. But Goulet's friends and the community association pushed for the lab school's lease renewal. So really this entire mess is partially their fault.

Fox Hall is a terrible location. As said before the density is low, it is difficult to get to because it is isolated by the large campuses, federal parkland and the river, no growth is expected in the school age population and it does nothing to relieve the projected crowding issues in upper NW. It is a bigger white elephant vs Duke Ellington. How can you have a school that draws from the whole city not located in a central area with a metro stop close by?

As a side note. You think after the Hardy-Maret-Jelleff thing showed the need for more sport fields in the area the city council would feel some pressure to put Duke Ellington field in to service. Nope. It now belongs to the DC parks and nothing has happened in 3 years? It’s a dog park where the dog owner do not pick.

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Anonymous wrote:Fox Hall elementary makes no sense unless it is part of a larger plan to shifting feeder elementary schools away from Deal to Hardy, Wells and McFarland. It’s the only thing that makes sense. If I was DCPS I would do it slowly so you are not fighting all of NW all at once.

If you are in NW do not be surprised when your middle is changes in the next few years.

[Foxhall and MacArthur actually mesh with what the Crowding Working Group recommended. Four new schools: a high school, a middle and two new elementaries, one in the southern part of the ward and one in the northern. With the new high school Hardy rolls out of Jackson Reed and in 10 years instead of being 3,000 students JR is 2,000. All they need to do now is add a middle school somewhere in the Deal boundaries so they can split Deal, and an elementary somewhere near Lafayette so they can alleviate the crowding there.

Though it seems like it'd be better if the Foxhall ES/Macarthur was closer to the population centers on Mass/Wisc. But DC gave away Guy Mason and Jelleff and screwed up ellington.

MacArthur yes, Foxhall no.

Foxhall is meant to take pressure off of Key and Mann, and possibly over time allow some adjustment of the Janney and Eaton boundaries where they abut Mann to take some pressure off of those schools. It's actually exactly where it needs to be, it's a spot that had a DCPS school for 60 years. Over half of the kids at Key now are closer to Foxhall than they are to Key.

MacArthur is meant to be Hardy's destination school. Ideally it would be close to Hardy so that anyone who can get to Hardy can get to Mac, and families who have kids split between the two can still have their kids travel together. But there just isn't a site there. In 2014, before the renovation, Frumin suggested moving Ellington rather than renovating it and using that building for a high school -- which is also the historic way those two buildings were used. That plan was shot down by Vincent Gray. Goulet was working for Gray at the time.

The Fox Hall location is in the worst possible position location for an elementary school because of the low density, the difficulty of access from the East and distance away from Mann, Janney and Eaton. That is why it was closed. The numbers just not add up for an elementary school in Fox Hall. There is just no way to make it work.

I know that Foxhall Facts are resistant to real world facts, like any good conspiracy theory, but I'm going to try.

Foxhall isn't particularly low density.

There are 141 public elementary schools in DC. Roughly one for every 4,000 residents. A good high-level way of gauging the density of an area is to look at the ANC boundary map. By law, ANC commissions have to be roughly 2,000 residents. You can see a map of ANC 3D here: https://www.anc3d.org/anc-map

ANC 3D corresponds almost exactly with the boundaries of Mann and Key. It has ten commissions, which means that roughly 20,000 people live there. If it had elementary schools at the rate of the rest of the city it would have five public elementary schools. You can tell the relative density of an area by looking at the size of the ANC districts; the smaller the district the denser the population. The districts around Foxhall aren't particularly large, they aren't even the largest in ANC 3D. 3D06, which contains the school, is one of the smaller districts in the ANC. Yes, there are green patches that have no residents -- but those aren't the areas around the school. The map shows it clearly.

There is plenty of population to support an elementary school there.

Yeah, foxhall isn't terrible. A reasonable size school on the Lab site would have been great for the community. But Goulet's friends and the community association pushed for the lab school's lease renewal. So really this entire mess is partially their fault.

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Anonymous wrote:Fox Hall elementary makes no sense unless it is part of a larger plan to shifting feeder elementary schools away from Deal to Hardy, Wells and McFarland. It’s the only thing that makes sense. If I was DCPS I would do it slowly so you are not fighting all of NW all at once.

If you are in NW do not be surprised when your middle is changes in the next few years.

[Foxhall and MacArthur actually mesh with what the Crowding Working Group recommended. Four new schools: a high school, a middle and two new elementaries, one in the southern part of the ward and one in the northern. With the new high school Hardy rolls out of Jackson Reed and in 10 years instead of being 3,000 students JR is 2,000. All they need to do now is add a middle school somewhere in the Deal boundaries so they can split Deal, and an elementary somewhere near Lafayette so they can alleviate the crowding there.

Though it seems like it'd be better if the Foxhall ES/Macarthur was closer to the population centers on Mass/Wisc. But DC gave away Guy Mason and Jelleff and screwed up ellington.

MacArthur yes, Foxhall no.

Foxhall is meant to take pressure off of Key and Mann, and possibly over time allow some adjustment of the Janney and Eaton boundaries where they abut Mann to take some pressure off of those schools. It's actually exactly where it needs to be, it's a spot that had a DCPS school for 60 years. Over half of the kids at Key now are closer to Foxhall than they are to Key.

MacArthur is meant to be Hardy's destination school. Ideally it would be close to Hardy so that anyone who can get to Hardy can get to Mac, and families who have kids split between the two can still have their kids travel together. But there just isn't a site there. In 2014, before the renovation, Frumin suggested moving Ellington rather than renovating it and using that building for a high school -- which is also the historic way those two buildings were used. That plan was shot down by Vincent Gray. Goulet was working for Gray at the time.

The Fox Hall location is in the worst possible position location for an elementary school because of the low density, the difficulty of access from the East and distance away from Mann, Janney and Eaton. That is why it was closed. The numbers just not add up for an elementary school in Fox Hall. There is just no way to make it work.

I know that Foxhall Facts are resistant to real world facts, like any good conspiracy theory, but I'm going to try.

Foxhall isn't particularly low density.

There are 141 public elementary schools in DC. Roughly one for every 4,000 residents. A good high-level way of gauging the density of an area is to look at the ANC boundary map. By law, ANC commissions have to be roughly 2,000 residents. You can see a map of ANC 3D here: https://www.anc3d.org/anc-map

ANC 3D corresponds almost exactly with the boundaries of Mann and Key. It has ten commissions, which means that roughly 20,000 people live there. If it had elementary schools at the rate of the rest of the city it would have five public elementary schools. You can tell the relative density of an area by looking at the size of the ANC districts; the smaller the district the denser the population. The districts around Foxhall aren't particularly large, they aren't even the largest in ANC 3D. 3D06, which contains the school, is one of the smaller districts in the ANC. Yes, there are green patches that have no residents -- but those aren't the areas around the school. The map shows it clearly.

There is plenty of population to support an elementary school there.

Yeah, foxhall isn't terrible. A reasonable size school on the Lab site would have been great for the community. But Goulet's friends and the community association pushed for the lab school's lease renewal. So really this entire mess is partially their fault.

For the lease renewal push Lab hired two lobbyists, Ben Young and Clare Bloch.

Ben Young is Mendelson's campaign finance chair.

Clare Bloch is Goulet's campaign co-chair.

This, right here, is the tell.

More people need to know about this. More people need to know what really went down. No wonder Jack Evans endorsed Goulet!

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Anonymous wrote:Fox Hall elementary makes no sense unless it is part of a larger plan to shifting feeder elementary schools away from Deal to Hardy, Wells and McFarland. It’s the only thing that makes sense. If I was DCPS I would do it slowly so you are not fighting all of NW all at once.

If you are in NW do not be surprised when your middle is changes in the next few years.

[Foxhall and MacArthur actually mesh with what the Crowding Working Group recommended. Four new schools: a high school, a middle and two new elementaries, one in the southern part of the ward and one in the northern. With the new high school Hardy rolls out of Jackson Reed and in 10 years instead of being 3,000 students JR is 2,000. All they need to do now is add a middle school somewhere in the Deal boundaries so they can split Deal, and an elementary somewhere near Lafayette so they can alleviate the crowding there.

Though it seems like it'd be better if the Foxhall ES/Macarthur was closer to the population centers on Mass/Wisc. But DC gave away Guy Mason and Jelleff and screwed up ellington.

MacArthur yes, Foxhall no.

Foxhall is meant to take pressure off of Key and Mann, and possibly over time allow some adjustment of the Janney and Eaton boundaries where they abut Mann to take some pressure off of those schools. It's actually exactly where it needs to be, it's a spot that had a DCPS school for 60 years. Over half of the kids at Key now are closer to Foxhall than they are to Key.

MacArthur is meant to be Hardy's destination school. Ideally it would be close to Hardy so that anyone who can get to Hardy can get to Mac, and families who have kids split between the two can still have their kids travel together. But there just isn't a site there. In 2014, before the renovation, Frumin suggested moving Ellington rather than renovating it and using that building for a high school -- which is also the historic way those two buildings were used. That plan was shot down by Vincent Gray. Goulet was working for Gray at the time.

The Fox Hall location is in the worst possible position location for an elementary school because of the low density, the difficulty of access from the East and distance away from Mann, Janney and Eaton. That is why it was closed. The numbers just not add up for an elementary school in Fox Hall. There is just no way to make it work.

I know that Foxhall Facts are resistant to real world facts, like any good conspiracy theory, but I'm going to try.

Foxhall isn't particularly low density.

There are 141 public elementary schools in DC. Roughly one for every 4,000 residents. A good high-level way of gauging the density of an area is to look at the ANC boundary map. By law, ANC commissions have to be roughly 2,000 residents. You can see a map of ANC 3D here: https://www.anc3d.org/anc-map

ANC 3D corresponds almost exactly with the boundaries of Mann and Key. It has ten commissions, which means that roughly 20,000 people live there. If it had elementary schools at the rate of the rest of the city it would have five public elementary schools. You can tell the relative density of an area by looking at the size of the ANC districts; the smaller the district the denser the population. The districts around Foxhall aren't particularly large, they aren't even the largest in ANC 3D. 3D06, which contains the school, is one of the smaller districts in the ANC. Yes, there are green patches that have no residents -- but those aren't the areas around the school. The map shows it clearly.

There is plenty of population to support an elementary school there.

Yeah, foxhall isn't terrible. A reasonable size school on the Lab site would have been great for the community. But Goulet's friends and the community association pushed for the lab school's lease renewal. So really this entire mess is partially their fault.

For the lease renewal push Lab hired two lobbyists, Ben Young and Clare Bloch.

Ben Young is Mendelson's campaign finance chair.

Clare Bloch is Goulet's campaign co-chair.

This, right here, is the tell.

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Anonymous wrote:Fox Hall elementary makes no sense unless it is part of a larger plan to shifting feeder elementary schools away from Deal to Hardy, Wells and McFarland. It’s the only thing that makes sense. If I was DCPS I would do it slowly so you are not fighting all of NW all at once.

If you are in NW do not be surprised when your middle is changes in the next few years.

[Foxhall and MacArthur actually mesh with what the Crowding Working Group recommended. Four new schools: a high school, a middle and two new elementaries, one in the southern part of the ward and one in the northern. With the new high school Hardy rolls out of Jackson Reed and in 10 years instead of being 3,000 students JR is 2,000. All they need to do now is add a middle school somewhere in the Deal boundaries so they can split Deal, and an elementary somewhere near Lafayette so they can alleviate the crowding there.

Though it seems like it'd be better if the Foxhall ES/Macarthur was closer to the population centers on Mass/Wisc. But DC gave away Guy Mason and Jelleff and screwed up ellington.

MacArthur yes, Foxhall no.

Foxhall is meant to take pressure off of Key and Mann, and possibly over time allow some adjustment of the Janney and Eaton boundaries where they abut Mann to take some pressure off of those schools. It's actually exactly where it needs to be, it's a spot that had a DCPS school for 60 years. Over half of the kids at Key now are closer to Foxhall than they are to Key.

MacArthur is meant to be Hardy's destination school. Ideally it would be close to Hardy so that anyone who can get to Hardy can get to Mac, and families who have kids split between the two can still have their kids travel together. But there just isn't a site there. In 2014, before the renovation, Frumin suggested moving Ellington rather than renovating it and using that building for a high school -- which is also the historic way those two buildings were used. That plan was shot down by Vincent Gray. Goulet was working for Gray at the time.

The Fox Hall location is in the worst possible position location for an elementary school because of the low density, the difficulty of access from the East and distance away from Mann, Janney and Eaton. That is why it was closed. The numbers just not add up for an elementary school in Fox Hall. There is just no way to make it work.

I know that Foxhall Facts are resistant to real world facts, like any good conspiracy theory, but I'm going to try.

Foxhall isn't particularly low density.

There are 141 public elementary schools in DC. Roughly one for every 4,000 residents. A good high-level way of gauging the density of an area is to look at the ANC boundary map. By law, ANC commissions have to be roughly 2,000 residents. You can see a map of ANC 3D here: https://www.anc3d.org/anc-map

ANC 3D corresponds almost exactly with the boundaries of Mann and Key. It has ten commissions, which means that roughly 20,000 people live there. If it had elementary schools at the rate of the rest of the city it would have five public elementary schools. You can tell the relative density of an area by looking at the size of the ANC districts; the smaller the district the denser the population. The districts around Foxhall aren't particularly large, they aren't even the largest in ANC 3D. 3D06, which contains the school, is one of the smaller districts in the ANC. Yes, there are green patches that have no residents -- but those aren't the areas around the school. The map shows it clearly.

There is plenty of population to support an elementary school there.

Yeah, foxhall isn't terrible. A reasonable size school on the Lab site would have been great for the community. But Goulet's friends and the community association pushed for the lab school's lease renewal. So really this entire mess is partially their fault.

For the lease renewal push Lab hired two lobbyists, Ben Young and Clare Bloch.

Ben Young is Mendelson's campaign finance chair.

Clare Bloch is Goulet's campaign co-chair.

Partially their fault? Take out LAB’s lobbying and the FCCA support and the lease doesn’t get renewed and we have Foxhall ES at Old Hardy in FY23. No concerns about loss of park space, loss of heritage trees, traffic, parking, or whatever. This mess is almost entirely their fault.

This actually makes me angry. This entire mess is just straight up corruption by Goulet and friends?

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Anonymous wrote:Fox Hall elementary makes no sense unless it is part of a larger plan to shifting feeder elementary schools away from Deal to Hardy, Wells and McFarland. It’s the only thing that makes sense. If I was DCPS I would do it slowly so you are not fighting all of NW all at once.

If you are in NW do not be surprised when your middle is changes in the next few years.

[Foxhall and MacArthur actually mesh with what the Crowding Working Group recommended. Four new schools: a high school, a middle and two new elementaries, one in the southern part of the ward and one in the northern. With the new high school Hardy rolls out of Jackson Reed and in 10 years instead of being 3,000 students JR is 2,000. All they need to do now is add a middle school somewhere in the Deal boundaries so they can split Deal, and an elementary somewhere near Lafayette so they can alleviate the crowding there.

Though it seems like it'd be better if the Foxhall ES/Macarthur was closer to the population centers on Mass/Wisc. But DC gave away Guy Mason and Jelleff and screwed up ellington.

MacArthur yes, Foxhall no.

Foxhall is meant to take pressure off of Key and Mann, and possibly over time allow some adjustment of the Janney and Eaton boundaries where they abut Mann to take some pressure off of those schools. It's actually exactly where it needs to be, it's a spot that had a DCPS school for 60 years. Over half of the kids at Key now are closer to Foxhall than they are to Key.

MacArthur is meant to be Hardy's destination school. Ideally it would be close to Hardy so that anyone who can get to Hardy can get to Mac, and families who have kids split between the two can still have their kids travel together. But there just isn't a site there. In 2014, before the renovation, Frumin suggested moving Ellington rather than renovating it and using that building for a high school -- which is also the historic way those two buildings were used. That plan was shot down by Vincent Gray. Goulet was working for Gray at the time.

The Fox Hall location is in the worst possible position location for an elementary school because of the low density, the difficulty of access from the East and distance away from Mann, Janney and Eaton. That is why it was closed. The numbers just not add up for an elementary school in Fox Hall. There is just no way to make it work.

I know that Foxhall Facts are resistant to real world facts, like any good conspiracy theory, but I'm going to try.

Foxhall isn't particularly low density.

There are 141 public elementary schools in DC. Roughly one for every 4,000 residents. A good high-level way of gauging the density of an area is to look at the ANC boundary map. By law, ANC commissions have to be roughly 2,000 residents. You can see a map of ANC 3D here: https://www.anc3d.org/anc-map

ANC 3D corresponds almost exactly with the boundaries of Mann and Key. It has ten commissions, which means that roughly 20,000 people live there. If it had elementary schools at the rate of the rest of the city it would have five public elementary schools. You can tell the relative density of an area by looking at the size of the ANC districts; the smaller the district the denser the population. The districts around Foxhall aren't particularly large, they aren't even the largest in ANC 3D. 3D06, which contains the school, is one of the smaller districts in the ANC. Yes, there are green patches that have no residents -- but those aren't the areas around the school. The map shows it clearly.

There is plenty of population to support an elementary school there.

Yeah, foxhall isn't terrible. A reasonable size school on the Lab site would have been great for the community. But Goulet's friends and the community association pushed for the lab school's lease renewal. So really this entire mess is partially their fault.

For the lease renewal push Lab hired two lobbyists, Ben Young and Clare Bloch.

Ben Young is Mendelson's campaign finance chair.

Clare Bloch is Goulet's campaign co-chair.

Partially their fault? Take out LAB’s lobbying and the FCCA support and the lease doesn’t get renewed and we have Foxhall ES at Old Hardy in FY23. No concerns about loss of park space, loss of heritage trees, traffic, parking, or whatever. This mess is almost entirely their fault.

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Anonymous wrote:Fox Hall elementary makes no sense unless it is part of a larger plan to shifting feeder elementary schools away from Deal to Hardy, Wells and McFarland. It’s the only thing that makes sense. If I was DCPS I would do it slowly so you are not fighting all of NW all at once.

If you are in NW do not be surprised when your middle is changes in the next few years.

[Foxhall and MacArthur actually mesh with what the Crowding Working Group recommended. Four new schools: a high school, a middle and two new elementaries, one in the southern part of the ward and one in the northern. With the new high school Hardy rolls out of Jackson Reed and in 10 years instead of being 3,000 students JR is 2,000. All they need to do now is add a middle school somewhere in the Deal boundaries so they can split Deal, and an elementary somewhere near Lafayette so they can alleviate the crowding there.

Though it seems like it'd be better if the Foxhall ES/Macarthur was closer to the population centers on Mass/Wisc. But DC gave away Guy Mason and Jelleff and screwed up ellington.

MacArthur yes, Foxhall no.

Foxhall is meant to take pressure off of Key and Mann, and possibly over time allow some adjustment of the Janney and Eaton boundaries where they abut Mann to take some pressure off of those schools. It's actually exactly where it needs to be, it's a spot that had a DCPS school for 60 years. Over half of the kids at Key now are closer to Foxhall than they are to Key.

MacArthur is meant to be Hardy's destination school. Ideally it would be close to Hardy so that anyone who can get to Hardy can get to Mac, and families who have kids split between the two can still have their kids travel together. But there just isn't a site there. In 2014, before the renovation, Frumin suggested moving Ellington rather than renovating it and using that building for a high school -- which is also the historic way those two buildings were used. That plan was shot down by Vincent Gray. Goulet was working for Gray at the time.

The Fox Hall location is in the worst possible position location for an elementary school because of the low density, the difficulty of access from the East and distance away from Mann, Janney and Eaton. That is why it was closed. The numbers just not add up for an elementary school in Fox Hall. There is just no way to make it work.

I know that Foxhall Facts are resistant to real world facts, like any good conspiracy theory, but I'm going to try.

Foxhall isn't particularly low density.

There are 141 public elementary schools in DC. Roughly one for every 4,000 residents. A good high-level way of gauging the density of an area is to look at the ANC boundary map. By law, ANC commissions have to be roughly 2,000 residents. You can see a map of ANC 3D here: https://www.anc3d.org/anc-map

ANC 3D corresponds almost exactly with the boundaries of Mann and Key. It has ten commissions, which means that roughly 20,000 people live there. If it had elementary schools at the rate of the rest of the city it would have five public elementary schools. You can tell the relative density of an area by looking at the size of the ANC districts; the smaller the district the denser the population. The districts around Foxhall aren't particularly large, they aren't even the largest in ANC 3D. 3D06, which contains the school, is one of the smaller districts in the ANC. Yes, there are green patches that have no residents -- but those aren't the areas around the school. The map shows it clearly.

There is plenty of population to support an elementary school there.

Yeah, foxhall isn't terrible. A reasonable size school on the Lab site would have been great for the community. But Goulet's friends and the community association pushed for the lab school's lease renewal. So really this entire mess is partially their fault.

For the lease renewal push Lab hired two lobbyists, Ben Young and Clare Bloch.

Ben Young is Mendelson's campaign finance chair.

Clare Bloch is Goulet's campaign co-chair.

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Anonymous wrote:Fox Hall elementary makes no sense unless it is part of a larger plan to shifting feeder elementary schools away from Deal to Hardy, Wells and McFarland. It’s the only thing that makes sense. If I was DCPS I would do it slowly so you are not fighting all of NW all at once.

If you are in NW do not be surprised when your middle is changes in the next few years.

[Foxhall and MacArthur actually mesh with what the Crowding Working Group recommended. Four new schools: a high school, a middle and two new elementaries, one in the southern part of the ward and one in the northern. With the new high school Hardy rolls out of Jackson Reed and in 10 years instead of being 3,000 students JR is 2,000. All they need to do now is add a middle school somewhere in the Deal boundaries so they can split Deal, and an elementary somewhere near Lafayette so they can alleviate the crowding there.

Though it seems like it'd be better if the Foxhall ES/Macarthur was closer to the population centers on Mass/Wisc. But DC gave away Guy Mason and Jelleff and screwed up ellington.

MacArthur yes, Foxhall no.

Foxhall is meant to take pressure off of Key and Mann, and possibly over time allow some adjustment of the Janney and Eaton boundaries where they abut Mann to take some pressure off of those schools. It's actually exactly where it needs to be, it's a spot that had a DCPS school for 60 years. Over half of the kids at Key now are closer to Foxhall than they are to Key.

MacArthur is meant to be Hardy's destination school. Ideally it would be close to Hardy so that anyone who can get to Hardy can get to Mac, and families who have kids split between the two can still have their kids travel together. But there just isn't a site there. In 2014, before the renovation, Frumin suggested moving Ellington rather than renovating it and using that building for a high school -- which is also the historic way those two buildings were used. That plan was shot down by Vincent Gray. Goulet was working for Gray at the time.

The Fox Hall location is in the worst possible position location for an elementary school because of the low density, the difficulty of access from the East and distance away from Mann, Janney and Eaton. That is why it was closed. The numbers just not add up for an elementary school in Fox Hall. There is just no way to make it work.

I know that Foxhall Facts are resistant to real world facts, like any good conspiracy theory, but I'm going to try.

Foxhall isn't particularly low density.

There are 141 public elementary schools in DC. Roughly one for every 4,000 residents. A good high-level way of gauging the density of an area is to look at the ANC boundary map. By law, ANC commissions have to be roughly 2,000 residents. You can see a map of ANC 3D here: https://www.anc3d.org/anc-map

ANC 3D corresponds almost exactly with the boundaries of Mann and Key. It has ten commissions, which means that roughly 20,000 people live there. If it had elementary schools at the rate of the rest of the city it would have five public elementary schools. You can tell the relative density of an area by looking at the size of the ANC districts; the smaller the district the denser the population. The districts around Foxhall aren't particularly large, they aren't even the largest in ANC 3D. 3D06, which contains the school, is one of the smaller districts in the ANC. Yes, there are green patches that have no residents -- but those aren't the areas around the school. The map shows it clearly.

There is plenty of population to support an elementary school there.

Yeah, foxhall isn't terrible. A reasonable size school on the Lab site would have been great for the community. But Goulet's friends and the community association pushed for the lab school's lease renewal. So really this entire mess is partially their fault.

For the lease renewal push Lab hired two lobbyists, Ben Young and Clare Bloch.

Ben Young is Mendelson's campaign finance chair.

Clare Bloch is Goulet's campaign co-chair.

Partially their fault? Take out LAB’s lobbying and the FCCA support and the lease doesn’t get renewed and we have Foxhall ES at Old Hardy in FY23. No concerns about loss of park space, loss of heritage trees, traffic, parking, or whatever. This mess is almost entirely their fault.

Almost entirely?

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Anonymous wrote:Fox Hall elementary makes no sense unless it is part of a larger plan to shifting feeder elementary schools away from Deal to Hardy, Wells and McFarland. It’s the only thing that makes sense. If I was DCPS I would do it slowly so you are not fighting all of NW all at once.

If you are in NW do not be surprised when your middle is changes in the next few years.

[Foxhall and MacArthur actually mesh with what the Crowding Working Group recommended. Four new schools: a high school, a middle and two new elementaries, one in the southern part of the ward and one in the northern. With the new high school Hardy rolls out of Jackson Reed and in 10 years instead of being 3,000 students JR is 2,000. All they need to do now is add a middle school somewhere in the Deal boundaries so they can split Deal, and an elementary somewhere near Lafayette so they can alleviate the crowding there.

Though it seems like it'd be better if the Foxhall ES/Macarthur was closer to the population centers on Mass/Wisc. But DC gave away Guy Mason and Jelleff and screwed up ellington.

MacArthur yes, Foxhall no.

Foxhall is meant to take pressure off of Key and Mann, and possibly over time allow some adjustment of the Janney and Eaton boundaries where they abut Mann to take some pressure off of those schools. It's actually exactly where it needs to be, it's a spot that had a DCPS school for 60 years. Over half of the kids at Key now are closer to Foxhall than they are to Key.

MacArthur is meant to be Hardy's destination school. Ideally it would be close to Hardy so that anyone who can get to Hardy can get to Mac, and families who have kids split between the two can still have their kids travel together. But there just isn't a site there. In 2014, before the renovation, Frumin suggested moving Ellington rather than renovating it and using that building for a high school -- which is also the historic way those two buildings were used. That plan was shot down by Vincent Gray. Goulet was working for Gray at the time.

The Fox Hall location is in the worst possible position location for an elementary school because of the low density, the difficulty of access from the East and distance away from Mann, Janney and Eaton. That is why it was closed. The numbers just not add up for an elementary school in Fox Hall. There is just no way to make it work.

I know that Foxhall Facts are resistant to real world facts, like any good conspiracy theory, but I'm going to try.

Foxhall isn't particularly low density.

There are 141 public elementary schools in DC. Roughly one for every 4,000 residents. A good high-level way of gauging the density of an area is to look at the ANC boundary map. By law, ANC commissions have to be roughly 2,000 residents. You can see a map of ANC 3D here: https://www.anc3d.org/anc-map

ANC 3D corresponds almost exactly with the boundaries of Mann and Key. It has ten commissions, which means that roughly 20,000 people live there. If it had elementary schools at the rate of the rest of the city it would have five public elementary schools. You can tell the relative density of an area by looking at the size of the ANC districts; the smaller the district the denser the population. The districts around Foxhall aren't particularly large, they aren't even the largest in ANC 3D. 3D06, which contains the school, is one of the smaller districts in the ANC. Yes, there are green patches that have no residents -- but those aren't the areas around the school. The map shows it clearly.

There is plenty of population to support an elementary school there.

Yeah, foxhall isn't terrible. A reasonable size school on the Lab site would have been great for the community. But Goulet's friends and the community association pushed for the lab school's lease renewal. So really this entire mess is partially their fault.

For the lease renewal push Lab hired two lobbyists, Ben Young and Clare Bloch.

Ben Young is Mendelson's campaign finance chair.

Clare Bloch is Goulet's campaign co-chair.

Partially their fault? Take out LAB’s lobbying and the FCCA support and the lease doesn’t get renewed and we have Foxhall ES at Old Hardy in FY23. No concerns about loss of park space, loss of heritage trees, traffic, parking, or whatever. This mess is almost entirely their fault.