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Anonymous wrote:So winning games and club raking don’t matter? Tell that to the other top clubs….

Also tell that to the parents who club hop. Players in the DMV do not have to go out of region to get better or be recruited.

That is from someone defending their club that continually loses to the better Maryland clubs. The DMV clubs, especially during the middle school years are failing at developing talent. Player growth isn't there and it shows. That's why the top DMV players continue to leave Pride and Stars and go to the better Maryland clubs.

It’s surprising how many kids commute from Virginia to play for the Baltimore teams.

Why? Better coaching, schedules and opportunities. If the families want to drive a little more, why the surprise?

MD clubs get the Nova kids who don’t make Capital.

The sport is growing. 180 DC kids tried out for Capital last year. Not all will make it.

Those who don’t will face the decision of going to Pride, Metro or MCE - or fighting rush hour to go to a MD club to try and match the recruiting strength of Capital.

I’ve been around this crazy sport for years and have never heard of a Nova kid who chose a MD club over Capital. I know plenty who didn’t make Capital and joined a MD club as a second choice.

It's not about choosing a Maryland club over Capital, it's more about choosing a Maryland club over the DMV clubs in the middle school years. That is the big issue. If a player moves in 6th or 7th grade, the choice to go to M&D, Heros, Skywalkers etc is more about choosing a new home for the long term, especially development in the MS years. The Capital teams will continue to get weaker with the weaker MS teams/clubs, that is an issue.

Is that why 180 kids tried out for Capital last year?

And of those 180, there's probably 50 worth looking at and maybe 20 that could make MD clubs and that's being nice. Do you really think Capital is better than Heros, M&D, Skywalkers etc for talent? Capital is good and has a strong track record for recent recruiting. However, as stated above, the middle school clubs feeding capital continue to get weaker and weaker.

Your math is off.

If winning was the goal, and Capital coached their teams the way other top teams play, the outcomes would be different. As it stands, 23s beat Hero’s two times last year and came within one last weekend on even rotations. They lost by two to NXT Black (ranked #2) last weekend on even rotations. Facts

Capital seeks to maximize recruits by giving players equal opportunity to showcase their talents. Guarantee your MD club doesn’t do this.

What about the 23 team's losses to M&D, Skywalkers and STEPS? What about those games? If you really think there are 180 girls in the DMV that can make the top Maryland clubs, you obviously don't know how to evaluate talent. You keep mistaking the point that it's all about winning, which is not the argument. The discussion topic is about the Maryland clubs having the top/better talent and developing that top talent. There are too many watered down teams in the DMV.

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Anonymous wrote:Make sure she has a realistic chance of making it. Has she had any exposure to Capital already? Gone to the pre tryout clinics? If you answer no to both, your DD has a slim to none chance. Coming from DDs that have been through this and got guided by the process.

I don't think this is true. The reason is that I know 5 Capital players from my neighorhood and none of them went to any pre tryout clinics or classes. I know their parents well. They all made it and it made sense because they were by far the best players I had ever seen. The kind that just dominated rec. leagues and box leagues. I did know one that did a season of indoor clinics stuff with Gussie, and she was pretty good, but not as good as the others. I think the lessons helped because she did get a lot better, especially after she focused on defense. But when she tried out for Capital, she didn't make it, but they did put her on a priority waitlist.

My sense is the clinics only matter in a few instances: if your kid is on the bubble (so a few kids). Truly stand out talent will make it whether they go to clinics or not. I also wonder if clinics could be detrimental - my guess is they eliminate girls who don’t play well at them.

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Anonymous wrote:So winning games and club raking don’t matter? Tell that to the other top clubs….

Also tell that to the parents who club hop. Players in the DMV do not have to go out of region to get better or be recruited.

That is from someone defending their club that continually loses to the better Maryland clubs. The DMV clubs, especially during the middle school years are failing at developing talent. Player growth isn't there and it shows. That's why the top DMV players continue to leave Pride and Stars and go to the better Maryland clubs.

It’s surprising how many kids commute from Virginia to play for the Baltimore teams.

Why? Better coaching, schedules and opportunities. If the families want to drive a little more, why the surprise?

MD clubs get the Nova kids who don’t make Capital.

The sport is growing. 180 DC kids tried out for Capital last year. Not all will make it.

Those who don’t will face the decision of going to Pride, Metro or MCE - or fighting rush hour to go to a MD club to try and match the recruiting strength of Capital.

I’ve been around this crazy sport for years and have never heard of a Nova kid who chose a MD club over Capital. I know plenty who didn’t make Capital and joined a MD club as a second choice.

It's not about choosing a Maryland club over Capital, it's more about choosing a Maryland club over the DMV clubs in the middle school years. That is the big issue. If a player moves in 6th or 7th grade, the choice to go to M&D, Heros, Skywalkers etc is more about choosing a new home for the long term, especially development in the MS years. The Capital teams will continue to get weaker with the weaker MS teams/clubs, that is an issue.

Is that why 180 kids tried out for Capital last year?

And of those 180, there's probably 50 worth looking at and maybe 20 that could make MD clubs and that's being nice. Do you really think Capital is better than Heros, M&D, Skywalkers etc for talent? Capital is good and has a strong track record for recent recruiting. However, as stated above, the middle school clubs feeding capital continue to get weaker and weaker.

Your math is off.

If winning was the goal, and Capital coached their teams the way other top teams play, the outcomes would be different. As it stands, 23s beat Hero’s two times last year and came within one last weekend on even rotations. They lost by two to NXT Black (ranked #2) last weekend on even rotations. Facts

Capital seeks to maximize recruits by giving players equal opportunity to showcase their talents. Guarantee your MD club doesn’t do this.

Anonymous wrote:Make sure she has a realistic chance of making it. Has she had any exposure to Capital already? Gone to the pre tryout clinics? If you answer no to both, your DD has a slim to none chance. Coming from DDs that have been through this and got guided by the process.

I don't think this is true. The reason is that I know 5 Capital players from my neighorhood and none of them went to any pre tryout clinics or classes. I know their parents well. They all made it and it made sense because they were by far the best players I had ever seen. The kind that just dominated rec. leagues and box leagues. I did know one that did a season of indoor clinics stuff with Gussie, and she was pretty good, but not as good as the others. I think the lessons helped because she did get a lot better, especially after she focused on defense. But when she tried out for Capital, she didn't make it, but they did put her on a priority waitlist.

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Anonymous wrote:So winning games and club raking don’t matter? Tell that to the other top clubs….

Also tell that to the parents who club hop. Players in the DMV do not have to go out of region to get better or be recruited.

That is from someone defending their club that continually loses to the better Maryland clubs. The DMV clubs, especially during the middle school years are failing at developing talent. Player growth isn't there and it shows. That's why the top DMV players continue to leave Pride and Stars and go to the better Maryland clubs.

It’s surprising how many kids commute from Virginia to play for the Baltimore teams.

Why? Better coaching, schedules and opportunities. If the families want to drive a little more, why the surprise?

MD clubs get the Nova kids who don’t make Capital.

The sport is growing. 180 DC kids tried out for Capital last year. Not all will make it.

Those who don’t will face the decision of going to Pride, Metro or MCE - or fighting rush hour to go to a MD club to try and match the recruiting strength of Capital.

I’ve been around this crazy sport for years and have never heard of a Nova kid who chose a MD club over Capital. I know plenty who didn’t make Capital and joined a MD club as a second choice.

It's not about choosing a Maryland club over Capital, it's more about choosing a Maryland club over the DMV clubs in the middle school years. That is the big issue. If a player moves in 6th or 7th grade, the choice to go to M&D, Heros, Skywalkers etc is more about choosing a new home for the long term, especially development in the MS years. The Capital teams will continue to get weaker with the weaker MS teams/clubs, that is an issue.

Is that why 180 kids tried out for Capital last year?

And of those 180, there's probably 50 worth looking at and maybe 20 that could make MD clubs and that's being nice. Do you really think Capital is better than Heros, M&D, Skywalkers etc for talent? Capital is good and has a strong track record for recent recruiting. However, as stated above, the middle school clubs feeding capital continue to get weaker and weaker.

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Anonymous wrote:So winning games and club raking don’t matter? Tell that to the other top clubs….

Also tell that to the parents who club hop. Players in the DMV do not have to go out of region to get better or be recruited.

That is from someone defending their club that continually loses to the better Maryland clubs. The DMV clubs, especially during the middle school years are failing at developing talent. Player growth isn't there and it shows. That's why the top DMV players continue to leave Pride and Stars and go to the better Maryland clubs.

It’s surprising how many kids commute from Virginia to play for the Baltimore teams.

Why? Better coaching, schedules and opportunities. If the families want to drive a little more, why the surprise?

MD clubs get the Nova kids who don’t make Capital.

The sport is growing. 180 DC kids tried out for Capital last year. Not all will make it.

Those who don’t will face the decision of going to Pride, Metro or MCE - or fighting rush hour to go to a MD club to try and match the recruiting strength of Capital.

I’ve been around this crazy sport for years and have never heard of a Nova kid who chose a MD club over Capital. I know plenty who didn’t make Capital and joined a MD club as a second choice.

It's not about choosing a Maryland club over Capital, it's more about choosing a Maryland club over the DMV clubs in the middle school years. That is the big issue. If a player moves in 6th or 7th grade, the choice to go to M&D, Heros, Skywalkers etc is more about choosing a new home for the long term, especially development in the MS years. The Capital teams will continue to get weaker with the weaker MS teams/clubs, that is an issue.

Is that why 180 kids tried out for Capital last year?

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Anonymous wrote:So winning games and club raking don’t matter? Tell that to the other top clubs….

Also tell that to the parents who club hop. Players in the DMV do not have to go out of region to get better or be recruited.

That is from someone defending their club that continually loses to the better Maryland clubs. The DMV clubs, especially during the middle school years are failing at developing talent. Player growth isn't there and it shows. That's why the top DMV players continue to leave Pride and Stars and go to the better Maryland clubs.

It’s surprising how many kids commute from Virginia to play for the Baltimore teams.

Why? Better coaching, schedules and opportunities. If the families want to drive a little more, why the surprise?

MD clubs get the Nova kids who don’t make Capital.

The sport is growing. 180 DC kids tried out for Capital last year. Not all will make it.

Those who don’t will face the decision of going to Pride, Metro or MCE - or fighting rush hour to go to a MD club to try and match the recruiting strength of Capital.

I’ve been around this crazy sport for years and have never heard of a Nova kid who chose a MD club over Capital. I know plenty who didn’t make Capital and joined a MD club as a second choice.

It's not about choosing a Maryland club over Capital, it's more about choosing a Maryland club over the DMV clubs in the middle school years. That is the big issue. If a player moves in 6th or 7th grade, the choice to go to M&D, Heros, Skywalkers etc is more about choosing a new home for the long term, especially development in the MS years. The Capital teams will continue to get weaker with the weaker MS teams/clubs, that is an issue.

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Anonymous wrote:So winning games and club raking don’t matter? Tell that to the other top clubs….

Winning matters. It always matters. Those who don't win, only say it doesn't matter. Having said that, if you win enough to be a top 10 team in your age, that's all you need to do. if the team is 1-2, 2-2 or 0-3 every weekend, that isn't good.

Correct for high school. Incorrect for club / college recruiting.

My daughters Big10 coach would say otherwise. The best teams get the most eyeballs.

Those teams also never take their stars off the field and the rest of the players rarely get any game minutes.

Capital has a great record for recruiting. Here are the stats I found for the 2021 CLC year.

Total signed 39 Blue 21 Orange 18
D1 Schools Blue 17 Orange 7
D2 Schools Orange 1
D3 Schools Blue 4 Orange 10

Blue Orange
Percentage D1 81% 39%
Percentage D2 0% 6%
Percentage D3 19% 56%

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Anonymous wrote:So winning games and club raking don’t matter? Tell that to the other top clubs….

Winning matters. It always matters. Those who don't win, only say it doesn't matter. Having said that, if you win enough to be a top 10 team in your age, that's all you need to do. if the team is 1-2, 2-2 or 0-3 every weekend, that isn't good.

Correct for high school. Incorrect for club / college recruiting.

My daughters Big10 coach would say otherwise. The best teams get the most eyeballs.

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Anonymous wrote:So winning games and club raking don’t matter? Tell that to the other top clubs….

Winning matters. It always matters. Those who don't win, only say it doesn't matter. Having said that, if you win enough to be a top 10 team in your age, that's all you need to do. if the team is 1-2, 2-2 or 0-3 every weekend, that isn't good.

Correct for high school. Incorrect for club / college recruiting.

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Anonymous wrote:So winning games and club raking don’t matter? Tell that to the other top clubs….

Also tell that to the parents who club hop. Players in the DMV do not have to go out of region to get better or be recruited.

That is from someone defending their club that continually loses to the better Maryland clubs. The DMV clubs, especially during the middle school years are failing at developing talent. Player growth isn't there and it shows. That's why the top DMV players continue to leave Pride and Stars and go to the better Maryland clubs.

It’s surprising how many kids commute from Virginia to play for the Baltimore teams.

Why? Better coaching, schedules and opportunities. If the families want to drive a little more, why the surprise?

MD clubs get the Nova kids who don’t make Capital.

The sport is growing. 180 DC kids tried out for Capital last year. Not all will make it.

Those who don’t will face the decision of going to Pride, Metro or MCE - or fighting rush hour to go to a MD club to try and match the recruiting strength of Capital.

I’ve been around this crazy sport for years and have never heard of a Nova kid who chose a MD club over Capital. I know plenty who didn’t make Capital and joined a MD club as a second choice.

NoVa? Unlikely.

But DC/MoCo? Definitely. Many go about 6th/7th grade.

Very few from DC or MoCo near the DC line choose MD clubs in 6th or 7th.

Outbound MoCo? Sure … though more out of convenience as it’s a decision between shorter 29N / 95N commute or longer Beltway to VA.

College choice also plays a factor in deciding which is the better fit.

Capital players typically chase academics (by choice - many 23s turned down top 25 lax ranked programs). Their 23 commit list supports this.

HoCo players typically choose higher ranked Lax. Their 23 commit lists support this.

Any increase in DMV kids to MD clubs has more to do with spillover based on sport growth, the realization that a Capital path may not be in the cards, commute time, burned bridges / bad experiences with their MS teams, or which college track (academic strength v lax rank) is right for them.

Has little to do with coaching or one being “better” than the other.

Who are the Capital coaches at each age level? Does the current senior coach become the freshman coach?

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Anonymous wrote:So winning games and club raking don’t matter? Tell that to the other top clubs….

Also tell that to the parents who club hop. Players in the DMV do not have to go out of region to get better or be recruited.

That is from someone defending their club that continually loses to the better Maryland clubs. The DMV clubs, especially during the middle school years are failing at developing talent. Player growth isn't there and it shows. That's why the top DMV players continue to leave Pride and Stars and go to the better Maryland clubs.

It’s surprising how many kids commute from Virginia to play for the Baltimore teams.

Why? Better coaching, schedules and opportunities. If the families want to drive a little more, why the surprise?

MD clubs get the Nova kids who don’t make Capital.

The sport is growing. 180 DC kids tried out for Capital last year. Not all will make it.

Those who don’t will face the decision of going to Pride, Metro or MCE - or fighting rush hour to go to a MD club to try and match the recruiting strength of Capital.

I’ve been around this crazy sport for years and have never heard of a Nova kid who chose a MD club over Capital. I know plenty who didn’t make Capital and joined a MD club as a second choice.

For the capital blue team, i agree. Many turn down capital orange.

There are a few top DC/Nova players (mostly public school kids) who dont even try out for Capital because of the private school politics

Anonymous wrote:So winning games and club raking don’t matter? Tell that to the other top clubs….

Winning matters. It always matters. Those who don't win, only say it doesn't matter. Having said that, if you win enough to be a top 10 team in your age, that's all you need to do. if the team is 1-2, 2-2 or 0-3 every weekend, that isn't good.