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Anonymous wrote:It's time for the NEA to take on the NRA. Every like minded school staff member and parent in the country staging a 1 day "sick out" this fall. Every like minded person protesting at gun stores and NRA conventions, holding mutilated body photos up and screaming "murderer!!!" at people trying to buy guns.
Raise the age limit for young men to own ANY gun to 25 and make all rapid fire guns illegal to own, period.

Responsible gun owners need to ask for reforms and break with the NRA, too. That would really make a difference.

Anonymous wrote:It's time for the NEA to take on the NRA. Every like minded school staff member and parent in the country staging a 1 day "sick out" this fall. Every like minded person protesting at gun stores and NRA conventions, holding mutilated body photos up and screaming "murderer!!!" at people trying to buy guns.
Raise the age limit for young men to own ANY gun to 25 and make all rapid fire guns illegal to own, period.

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Anonymous wrote:We got rid of our ARs and hand guns years ago, when we had children. We had them locked in a gun safe and only took them to the range. I still didn’t want them in the house once our kids were born. That was 15 years ago. We were responsible gun owners and I can tell you for sure, we were not the problem. We would have complied with any law at any time. If they were outlawed, we would have turned them in. A buy back program would not have been an incentive since we don’t need the money.

I can also tell you that people who actually have guns to commit crimes would not be enticed by a voluntary buy back of purchase price plus inflation. I think stricter gun laws are needed but also stricter discipline in schools and more consequences for crimes all around. And of course, addressing mental health. We know banning things and making laws do not automatically stop murder.

I don't think you're the problem either. I think it sounds like you take the risk of guns in a house to kids very seriously and I have a lot of respect for that.

That said, I think banning new purchases of assault weapons would go a long way toward keeping them out of the hands of angry young men committing mass shootings. These aren't criminal masterminds with huge underground networks. The guns are just way, way too easy to get.

I don't think it's helpful to talk about how that won't keep anyone from ever obtaining an illegal gun, or how people who have them already won't be interested in buybacks. These seem like attempts to keep us from doing anything until or unless we come up with a perfect 100% effective solution. Why wouldn't it be worth it to prevent a good number of shootings just because we can't guarantee there will never be another?

You are quoting me. I agree that we need stricter gun control laws. I think we should be talking about it. I also agree that we shouldn’t be letting 18 year olds purchase any guns at all. We probably share a lot of similar views.

Should we prohibit 18 year olds from entering the military as well? Or do we just prohibit them from ownership of something they could potentially be forced into using (draft?)

If they serve our country, aren’t they vetted and trained to use these arms? Do they really need access to 1600 rounds in their personal lives? This argument doesn’t hold water. Neither does the argument that there’s just moral depravity, and we need to solve that. Nor that are founding fathers wanted this. They never imagined in the salt rifle that could shoot 300 feet with 1600 rounds. They are rolling over in their graves.

An assault rifle.

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Anonymous wrote:We got rid of our ARs and hand guns years ago, when we had children. We had them locked in a gun safe and only took them to the range. I still didn’t want them in the house once our kids were born. That was 15 years ago. We were responsible gun owners and I can tell you for sure, we were not the problem. We would have complied with any law at any time. If they were outlawed, we would have turned them in. A buy back program would not have been an incentive since we don’t need the money.

I can also tell you that people who actually have guns to commit crimes would not be enticed by a voluntary buy back of purchase price plus inflation. I think stricter gun laws are needed but also stricter discipline in schools and more consequences for crimes all around. And of course, addressing mental health. We know banning things and making laws do not automatically stop murder.

I don't think you're the problem either. I think it sounds like you take the risk of guns in a house to kids very seriously and I have a lot of respect for that.

That said, I think banning new purchases of assault weapons would go a long way toward keeping them out of the hands of angry young men committing mass shootings. These aren't criminal masterminds with huge underground networks. The guns are just way, way too easy to get.

I don't think it's helpful to talk about how that won't keep anyone from ever obtaining an illegal gun, or how people who have them already won't be interested in buybacks. These seem like attempts to keep us from doing anything until or unless we come up with a perfect 100% effective solution. Why wouldn't it be worth it to prevent a good number of shootings just because we can't guarantee there will never be another?

You are quoting me. I agree that we need stricter gun control laws. I think we should be talking about it. I also agree that we shouldn’t be letting 18 year olds purchase any guns at all. We probably share a lot of similar views.

Should we prohibit 18 year olds from entering the military as well? Or do we just prohibit them from ownership of something they could potentially be forced into using (draft?)

If they serve our country, aren’t they vetted and trained to use these arms? Do they really need access to 1600 rounds in their personal lives? This argument doesn’t hold water. Neither does the argument that there’s just moral depravity, and we need to solve that. Nor that are founding fathers wanted this. They never imagined in the salt rifle that could shoot 300 feet with 1600 rounds. They are rolling over in their graves.

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Anonymous wrote:We got rid of our ARs and hand guns years ago, when we had children. We had them locked in a gun safe and only took them to the range. I still didn’t want them in the house once our kids were born. That was 15 years ago. We were responsible gun owners and I can tell you for sure, we were not the problem. We would have complied with any law at any time. If they were outlawed, we would have turned them in. A buy back program would not have been an incentive since we don’t need the money.

I can also tell you that people who actually have guns to commit crimes would not be enticed by a voluntary buy back of purchase price plus inflation. I think stricter gun laws are needed but also stricter discipline in schools and more consequences for crimes all around. And of course, addressing mental health. We know banning things and making laws do not automatically stop murder.

I don't think you're the problem either. I think it sounds like you take the risk of guns in a house to kids very seriously and I have a lot of respect for that.

That said, I think banning new purchases of assault weapons would go a long way toward keeping them out of the hands of angry young men committing mass shootings. These aren't criminal masterminds with huge underground networks. The guns are just way, way too easy to get.

I don't think it's helpful to talk about how that won't keep anyone from ever obtaining an illegal gun, or how people who have them already won't be interested in buybacks. These seem like attempts to keep us from doing anything until or unless we come up with a perfect 100% effective solution. Why wouldn't it be worth it to prevent a good number of shootings just because we can't guarantee there will never be another?

You are quoting me. I agree that we need stricter gun control laws. I think we should be talking about it. I also agree that we shouldn’t be letting 18 year olds purchase any guns at all. We probably share a lot of similar views.

Should we prohibit 18 year olds from entering the military as well? Or do we just prohibit them from ownership of something they could potentially be forced into using (draft?)

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Anonymous wrote:We got rid of our ARs and hand guns years ago, when we had children. We had them locked in a gun safe and only took them to the range. I still didn’t want them in the house once our kids were born. That was 15 years ago. We were responsible gun owners and I can tell you for sure, we were not the problem. We would have complied with any law at any time. If they were outlawed, we would have turned them in. A buy back program would not have been an incentive since we don’t need the money.

I can also tell you that people who actually have guns to commit crimes would not be enticed by a voluntary buy back of purchase price plus inflation. I think stricter gun laws are needed but also stricter discipline in schools and more consequences for crimes all around. And of course, addressing mental health. We know banning things and making laws do not automatically stop murder.

I don't think you're the problem either. I think it sounds like you take the risk of guns in a house to kids very seriously and I have a lot of respect for that.

That said, I think banning new purchases of assault weapons would go a long way toward keeping them out of the hands of angry young men committing mass shootings. These aren't criminal masterminds with huge underground networks. The guns are just way, way too easy to get.

I don't think it's helpful to talk about how that won't keep anyone from ever obtaining an illegal gun, or how people who have them already won't be interested in buybacks. These seem like attempts to keep us from doing anything until or unless we come up with a perfect 100% effective solution. Why wouldn't it be worth it to prevent a good number of shootings just because we can't guarantee there will never be another?

You are quoting me. I agree that we need stricter gun control laws. I think we should be talking about it. I also agree that we shouldn’t be letting 18 year olds purchase any guns at all. We probably share a lot of similar views.

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Anonymous wrote:We got rid of our ARs and hand guns years ago, when we had children. We had them locked in a gun safe and only took them to the range. I still didn’t want them in the house once our kids were born. That was 15 years ago. We were responsible gun owners and I can tell you for sure, we were not the problem. We would have complied with any law at any time. If they were outlawed, we would have turned them in. A buy back program would not have been an incentive since we don’t need the money.

I can also tell you that people who actually have guns to commit crimes would not be enticed by a voluntary buy back of purchase price plus inflation. I think stricter gun laws are needed but also stricter discipline in schools and more consequences for crimes all around. And of course, addressing mental health. We know banning things and making laws do not automatically stop murder.

I don't think you're the problem either. I think it sounds like you take the risk of guns in a house to kids very seriously and I have a lot of respect for that.

That said, I think banning new purchases of assault weapons would go a long way toward keeping them out of the hands of angry young men committing mass shootings. These aren't criminal masterminds with huge underground networks. The guns are just way, way too easy to get.

I don't think it's helpful to talk about how that won't keep anyone from ever obtaining an illegal gun, or how people who have them already won't be interested in buybacks. These seem like attempts to keep us from doing anything until or unless we come up with a perfect 100% effective solution. Why wouldn't it be worth it to prevent a good number of shootings just because we can't guarantee there will never be another?

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Anonymous wrote:We got rid of our ARs and hand guns years ago, when we had children. We had them locked in a gun safe and only took them to the range. I still didn’t want them in the house once our kids were born. That was 15 years ago. We were responsible gun owners and I can tell you for sure, we were not the problem. We would have complied with any law at any time. If they were outlawed, we would have turned them in. A buy back program would not have been an incentive since we don’t need the money.

I can also tell you that people who actually have guns to commit crimes would not be enticed by a voluntary buy back of purchase price plus inflation. I think stricter gun laws are needed but also stricter discipline in schools and more consequences for crimes all around. And of course, addressing mental health. We know banning things and making laws do not automatically stop murder.

I don't think you're the problem either. I think it sounds like you take the risk of guns in a house to kids very seriously and I have a lot of respect for that.

That said, I think banning new purchases of assault weapons would go a long way toward keeping them out of the hands of angry young men committing mass shootings. These aren't criminal masterminds with huge underground networks. The guns are just way, way too easy to get.

I don't think it's helpful to talk about how that won't keep anyone from ever obtaining an illegal gun, or how people who have them already won't be interested in buybacks. These seem like attempts to keep us from doing anything until or unless we come up with a perfect 100% effective solution. Why wouldn't it be worth it to prevent a good number of shootings just because we can't guarantee there will never be another?

Anonymous wrote:We got rid of our ARs and hand guns years ago, when we had children. We had them locked in a gun safe and only took them to the range. I still didn’t want them in the house once our kids were born. That was 15 years ago. We were responsible gun owners and I can tell you for sure, we were not the problem. We would have complied with any law at any time. If they were outlawed, we would have turned them in. A buy back program would not have been an incentive since we don’t need the money.

I can also tell you that people who actually have guns to commit crimes would not be enticed by a voluntary buy back of purchase price plus inflation. I think stricter gun laws are needed but also stricter discipline in schools and more consequences for crimes all around. And of course, addressing mental health. We know banning things and making laws do not automatically stop murder.

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Anonymous wrote:We got rid of our ARs and hand guns years ago, when we had children. We had them locked in a gun safe and only took them to the range. I still didn’t want them in the house once our kids were born. That was 15 years ago. We were responsible gun owners and I can tell you for sure, we were not the problem. We would have complied with any law at any time. If they were outlawed, we would have turned them in. A buy back program would not have been an incentive since we don’t need the money.

I can also tell you that people who actually have guns to commit crimes would not be enticed by a voluntary buy back of purchase price plus inflation. I think stricter gun laws are needed but also stricter discipline in schools and more consequences for crimes all around. And of course, addressing mental health. We know banning things and making laws do not automatically stop murder.

I think there are many reasonable gun owners like yourselves.

Buy back cash would be a "nudge" in some cases (not yours) and for fairness - perhaps also should be an option to donate it with extra matching to families of victims of assault weapons.

Assault weapon ban won't be a total fix - but it is the least we must do

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Buybacks won’t get all guns off the streets but they will help.

There isn’t just a single fix to reduce gun violence. We need to address multiple aspects - universal background checks, assault weapons, giving LEOs tools to trace illegal sales, buybacks, mental health/healthcare, etc.

I think we also need to eliminate first person shooter games. Many of these killers get their start in Call of Duty. Or similar.

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Anonymous wrote:We got rid of our ARs and hand guns years ago, when we had children. We had them locked in a gun safe and only took them to the range. I still didn’t want them in the house once our kids were born. That was 15 years ago. We were responsible gun owners and I can tell you for sure, we were not the problem. We would have complied with any law at any time. If they were outlawed, we would have turned them in. A buy back program would not have been an incentive since we don’t need the money.

I can also tell you that people who actually have guns to commit crimes would not be enticed by a voluntary buy back of purchase price plus inflation. I think stricter gun laws are needed but also stricter discipline in schools and more consequences for crimes all around. And of course, addressing mental health. We know banning things and making laws do not automatically stop murder.

I think there are many reasonable gun owners like yourselves.

Buy back cash would be a "nudge" in some cases (not yours) and for fairness - perhaps also should be an option to donate it with extra matching to families of victims of assault weapons.

Assault weapon ban won't be a total fix - but it is the least we must do

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question. I support banning guns. But how will you get the million s of guns already you there? Do you really think people will just hand them over?

No. The new regulations have to include money to invest in buying back the illegal weapons. There are places where this has been done successfully.

So how much to buy back a weapon? If someone is already in possession of "an illegal weapon" it's going to take a lot of money to get them to turn it over. What do you think that price will be?

Keep in mind that many of these people see these weapons as the means to defend their family. You're essentially asking them to put a price on their child's safety and possibly even their life.

How much money would it take for YOU to sacrifice your child's life?

Why should everyone else's safety be held hostage so the paranoid hicks can feel safe? How many children have to die before we get rid of the guns? This disturbed 18yo was able to go buy two dangerous weapons with ease and then the "good guys with guns" just stood outside while children were slaughtered. The gun nut crowd is morally bankrupt.

Apparently, only “hicks” own guns.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question. I support banning guns. But how will you get the million s of guns already you there? Do you really think people will just hand them over?

No. The new regulations have to include money to invest in buying back the illegal weapons. There are places where this has been done successfully.

So how much to buy back a weapon? If someone is already in possession of "an illegal weapon" it's going to take a lot of money to get them to turn it over. What do you think that price will be?

Keep in mind that many of these people see these weapons as the means to defend their family. You're essentially asking them to put a price on their child's safety and possibly even their life.

How much money would it take for YOU to sacrifice your child's life?

Why should everyone else's safety be held hostage so the paranoid hicks can feel safe? How many children have to die before we get rid of the guns? This disturbed 18yo was able to go buy two dangerous weapons with ease and then the "good guys with guns" just stood outside while children were slaughtered. The gun nut crowd is morally bankrupt.