Anonymous
05/08/2022 11:08
Subject: Received an email that DS teacher quit Friday.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That sucks, and I'm sorry. There must be something really difficult going on in that teacher's life right to make such a decision.
She probably got fed up with the a-hole parents.
Honestly, this is probably accurate.
I wouldn't blame her.
Not this late in the year. It’s unprofessional and rude. Anyone can work another 6 weeks. That’s a really $hitty thing to do to her students. Just finish the damn year and move on.
Why should she wait six weeks? Teachers don't get paid for the summer. So her leaving now for a better job means a better financial future long-term. OP doesn't like it I'm sure she knows were the sub sign-up forms are. It won't even be that long, just six weeks.
Wow, the disrespect towards teachers just doesn't stop.
DP: Why is this disrespect? Teachers are supposed to give up better financial offers just because you think they should conform to your idea of professionalism? They owe it to their students? The same teachers who routinely get pink slips every spring and often don't know if/where they are going to work the next year until mid-summer? The same teachers who have been putting up with a ton of crap from so many angles the past few years? Putting teachers on a pedestal who will suffer through anything--give up their own and their family's well-being-- for their students is not "respect" it's an unreasonable expectation. To couch it as 'respect' is just extra gaslighting. These and many other unreasonable demands are what is gutting the teacher profession. Sure, I'd prefer a teacher--or any worker-- not quit without notice but I can totally understand why someone would if they are at the breaking point. And only hr and the teacher know the actual situation, not OP. But if we don't course correct on demands on teachers, the issue is not whether you'll have the same teacher for the next month or so, but whether you'll have any at all next year.
Spare us your union BS. Unprofessional behavior is unprofessional behavior in any field.
Live in denial of the growing teacher shortage then.
Anonymous
05/08/2022 10:56
Subject: Received an email that DS teacher quit Friday.
Ugh right in the middle of SOLs, too! I hope the rest of the year is ok for your son OP! My dd’s teacher quit the second week of school and instead of trying to find a new teacher, they just split the kids between three other grade level classes. I was grateful it was early in the year.
Anonymous
05/08/2022 10:56
Subject: Received an email that DS teacher quit Friday.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That sucks, and I'm sorry. There must be something really difficult going on in that teacher's life right to make such a decision.
She probably got fed up with the a-hole parents.
Honestly, this is probably accurate.
I wouldn't blame her.
Not this late in the year. It’s unprofessional and rude. Anyone can work another 6 weeks. That’s a really $hitty thing to do to her students. Just finish the damn year and move on.
My colleague of 21 years quit in March. She had had enough of the run around with one student in her class who was violent. She asked for help all year. Multiple times per day this student would disrupt the class. He would scream curse words at her and other students and throw things. I almost got hit in the eye with a dry erase board when I went in to help one day. Anyway, they had to divide her class among the other two classes. I refused to take the violent student and so did the other teacher unless the student had a one-on-one. We had the union behind us. Miraculously, admin found a one-on-one for the rest of the year. Parents, if a teacher of 21 yrs quits mid-year, you better believe it is because of something very serious. If I didn't have a child to support, I would've quit a long time ago. Teachers put up with a tremendous amount of BS and everyone has their limits.
Anonymous
05/08/2022 10:51
Subject: Re:Received an email that DS teacher quit Friday.
Anonymous wrote:No offense, but my job doesn’t do anything for my anniversary at the job. I got a coin and a certificate for my 5 year anniversary. I am coming up on my 10 year anniversary and I bet I get the same thing. There is no bonus, no special gift. My job pays better then a Teachers but that was my choice. I don’t get an annual bonus, that is not a part of my compensation packet, which was also my choice.
People choose jobs with different pay packets. A bonus is a part of that packet. My brothers job has bonuses built into his pay packet. If he doesn’t hit his bonuses, then he should be rethinking his job.
I am not sure why people think Teachers should get a bonus, it is not a part of their pay package. Yes, it is nice, but if it is that important then it should be written into the contract.
Teacher appreciation week at our school is mainly different special meals, because the PTA knows that the Teachers don’t need or want the coffee mugs and water bottles. I know they ask for food allergies and requirements so that all the Teachers get food that they like. Winter Break and end of the year Room gifts include gift cards but none of that is a guarantee. Our parents and PTA do it because there is enough money to do it but that is not a guarantee. Not every school has families with the money to do that.
I get that Teaching is hard and getting harder but most Teachers know what their compensation package looks like. I think Teachers should be paid more but the idea that anniversary’s should be marked with a bonus or something that isn’t included in the contract is far fetched.
I don’t think teachers are expecting bonuses. They do think the county should do more to retain teachers. Most teachers leave after 5 years. Businesses all across the country are giving incentives to work for them. God, even some of the fast food restaurants are giving a sign on bonus. If schools want to retain teachers they need to start doing something different. Meanwhile, most schools are losing staffing and class sizes are predicted to go up. Teachers know what compensation looks like, but they expect to be able to afford to live. They expect good working conditions. Parents should want that too for their school community.
Anonymous
05/08/2022 10:48
Subject: Re:Received an email that DS teacher quit Friday.
Anonymous wrote:No offense, but my job doesn’t do anything for my anniversary at the job. I got a coin and a certificate for my 5 year anniversary. I am coming up on my 10 year anniversary and I bet I get the same thing. There is no bonus, no special gift. My job pays better then a Teachers but that was my choice. I don’t get an annual bonus, that is not a part of my compensation packet, which was also my choice.
People choose jobs with different pay packets. A bonus is a part of that packet. My brothers job has bonuses built into his pay packet. If he doesn’t hit his bonuses, then he should be rethinking his job.
I am not sure why people think Teachers should get a bonus, it is not a part of their pay package. Yes, it is nice, but if it is that important then it should be written into the contract.
Teacher appreciation week at our school is mainly different special meals, because the PTA knows that the Teachers don’t need or want the coffee mugs and water bottles. I know they ask for food allergies and requirements so that all the Teachers get food that they like. Winter Break and end of the year Room gifts include gift cards but none of that is a guarantee. Our parents and PTA do it because there is enough money to do it but that is not a guarantee. Not every school has families with the money to do that.
I get that Teaching is hard and getting harder but most Teachers know what their compensation package looks like. I think Teachers should be paid more but the idea that anniversary’s should be marked with a bonus or something that isn’t included in the contract is far fetched.
I don’t think I should get a bonus or special recognition. I agree, I choose this profession and it wasn’t for the money. I was pointing out how we are treated like elementary students ourselves. I’d rather get nothing than a photocopied certificate like you would give a 7 year old. They want us to act professionally. Treat us as professionals.
I completely understand why my husband’s salary and bonuses are what they are. He makes money for people. I do not.
Anonymous
05/08/2022 10:45
Subject: Received an email that DS teacher quit Friday.
The kids are just fulfilling SOL testing at this point anyway, so it’s no like there was going to be any actual learning from here until the end of the year. That probably factored into the teacher’s plans.
Anonymous
05/08/2022 10:44
Subject: Received an email that DS teacher quit Friday.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That sucks, and I'm sorry. There must be something really difficult going on in that teacher's life right to make such a decision.
She probably got fed up with the a-hole parents.
Honestly, this is probably accurate.
I wouldn't blame her.
Not this late in the year. It’s unprofessional and rude. Anyone can work another 6 weeks. That’s a really $hitty thing to do to her students. Just finish the damn year and move on.
Why should she wait six weeks? Teachers don't get paid for the summer. So her leaving now for a better job means a better financial future long-term. OP doesn't like it I'm sure she knows were the sub sign-up forms are. It won't even be that long, just six weeks.
Wow, the disrespect towards teachers just doesn't stop.
DP: Why is this disrespect? Teachers are supposed to give up better financial offers just because you think they should conform to your idea of professionalism? They owe it to their students? The same teachers who routinely get pink slips every spring and often don't know if/where they are going to work the next year until mid-summer? The same teachers who have been putting up with a ton of crap from so many angles the past few years? Putting teachers on a pedestal who will suffer through anything--give up their own and their family's well-being-- for their students is not "respect" it's an unreasonable expectation. To couch it as 'respect' is just extra gaslighting. These and many other unreasonable demands are what is gutting the teacher profession. Sure, I'd prefer a teacher--or any worker-- not quit without notice but I can totally understand why someone would if they are at the breaking point. And only hr and the teacher know the actual situation, not OP. But if we don't course correct on demands on teachers, the issue is not whether you'll have the same teacher for the next month or so, but whether you'll have any at all next year.
Spare us your union BS. Unprofessional behavior is unprofessional behavior in any field.
Anonymous
05/08/2022 10:38
Subject: Re:Received an email that DS teacher quit Friday.
No offense, but my job doesn’t do anything for my anniversary at the job. I got a coin and a certificate for my 5 year anniversary. I am coming up on my 10 year anniversary and I bet I get the same thing. There is no bonus, no special gift. My job pays better then a Teachers but that was my choice. I don’t get an annual bonus, that is not a part of my compensation packet, which was also my choice.
People choose jobs with different pay packets. A bonus is a part of that packet. My brothers job has bonuses built into his pay packet. If he doesn’t hit his bonuses, then he should be rethinking his job.
I am not sure why people think Teachers should get a bonus, it is not a part of their pay package. Yes, it is nice, but if it is that important then it should be written into the contract.
Teacher appreciation week at our school is mainly different special meals, because the PTA knows that the Teachers don’t need or want the coffee mugs and water bottles. I know they ask for food allergies and requirements so that all the Teachers get food that they like. Winter Break and end of the year Room gifts include gift cards but none of that is a guarantee. Our parents and PTA do it because there is enough money to do it but that is not a guarantee. Not every school has families with the money to do that.
I get that Teaching is hard and getting harder but most Teachers know what their compensation package looks like. I think Teachers should be paid more but the idea that anniversary’s should be marked with a bonus or something that isn’t included in the contract is far fetched.
People choose jobs with different pay packets. A bonus is a part of that packet. My brothers job has bonuses built into his pay packet. If he doesn’t hit his bonuses, then he should be rethinking his job.
I am not sure why people think Teachers should get a bonus, it is not a part of their pay package. Yes, it is nice, but if it is that important then it should be written into the contract.
Teacher appreciation week at our school is mainly different special meals, because the PTA knows that the Teachers don’t need or want the coffee mugs and water bottles. I know they ask for food allergies and requirements so that all the Teachers get food that they like. Winter Break and end of the year Room gifts include gift cards but none of that is a guarantee. Our parents and PTA do it because there is enough money to do it but that is not a guarantee. Not every school has families with the money to do that.
I get that Teaching is hard and getting harder but most Teachers know what their compensation package looks like. I think Teachers should be paid more but the idea that anniversary’s should be marked with a bonus or something that isn’t included in the contract is far fetched.
Anonymous
05/08/2022 10:33
Subject: Re:Received an email that DS teacher quit Friday.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Teaching is a job. Teachers are people. VA is a right-to-work state. Anyone can leave their job at anytime. Teachers don’t “owe” anything to the students.
If you think that posts like these are respectful towards teachers, you've got it backwards.
I was thinking the same as the PP you quoted and I’m a teacher.
It’s a job.
Anonymous
05/08/2022 10:31
Subject: Received an email that DS teacher quit Friday.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good for her. Teachers should not be indentured servants and schools need much better systems for serving students that don't hinge on a single human being self-sacrificing.
In business we call it operational continuity. If one person walking out causes major problems, that's a leadership problem, not a staff problem. Becaus anyone can get hit by a bus tomorrow...
I assure you Larlo will be okay.
Right? Teachers are all replaceable and interchangeable.
Can you even hear yourself? SMH
DP. Yes, all employees are replaceable and interchangeable. It happens in companies all the time. Institutional knowledge walks out the door. Tasks that got done solely on the basis of relationships stop. And yet the company continues on.
Anonymous
05/08/2022 10:14
Subject: Received an email that DS teacher quit Friday.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe her husbands job transferred and they’re moving. Maybe she has a kid with a really bad diagnosis and ran through sick days and realizes she needs to step away. Maybe her mental health is in crisis and she felt she was harming the kids more than helping. You can’t know and don’t need to. Barely any new learning happens in the last month. It’s review and SOLs and fun activities. It’s gonna be fine.
What a waste...
Making these comments are disrespectful! Learning does happen. You may hear of a movie the last week, field day or something else; but learning still happens. No teacher wants to manage the chaos of 25 kids goofing off for 20 days.
Anonymous
05/08/2022 10:13
Subject: Re:Received an email that DS teacher quit Friday.
Anonymous wrote:FCPS doesn’t respect teachers. If they wanted to work on retaining teachers, teachers would get more than a T-shirt or Lanyard for years of service. Imagine after 5 years of service you got a $1,000 bonus? After 10 years a $3,000 bonus? Every teacher can list things the county wastes money on. It is time for parents to help raise teaching salaries!
That’s funny. I teach in a nearby district and after 15 years I got a paper certificate, like you would give a child, in my mailbox. I don’t even pick up the t-shirts anymore. They are terrible and went straight to the donation pile.
Anonymous
05/08/2022 10:03
Subject: Received an email that DS teacher quit Friday.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That sucks, and I'm sorry. There must be something really difficult going on in that teacher's life right to make such a decision.
She probably got fed up with the a-hole parents.
Honestly, this is probably accurate.
I wouldn't blame her.
Not this late in the year. It’s unprofessional and rude. Anyone can work another 6 weeks. That’s a really $hitty thing to do to her students. Just finish the damn year and move on.
Why should she wait six weeks? Teachers don't get paid for the summer. So her leaving now for a better job means a better financial future long-term. OP doesn't like it I'm sure she knows were the sub sign-up forms are. It won't even be that long, just six weeks.
Wow, the disrespect towards teachers just doesn't stop.
DP: Why is this disrespect? Teachers are supposed to give up better financial offers just because you think they should conform to your idea of professionalism? They owe it to their students? The same teachers who routinely get pink slips every spring and often don't know if/where they are going to work the next year until mid-summer? The same teachers who have been putting up with a ton of crap from so many angles the past few years? Putting teachers on a pedestal who will suffer through anything--give up their own and their family's well-being-- for their students is not "respect" it's an unreasonable expectation. To couch it as 'respect' is just extra gaslighting. These and many other unreasonable demands are what is gutting the teacher profession. Sure, I'd prefer a teacher--or any worker-- not quit without notice but I can totally understand why someone would if they are at the breaking point. And only hr and the teacher know the actual situation, not OP. But if we don't course correct on demands on teachers, the issue is not whether you'll have the same teacher for the next month or so, but whether you'll have any at all next year.
Anonymous
05/08/2022 09:48
Subject: Received an email that DS teacher quit Friday.
I’m on Team Teacher.
-FCPS employee, itinerant.
It’s rough out there. Sometimes I wonder if administrators even enjoy working with students. So much bitterness and seething anger conveyed from administration down to the front office staff.
-FCPS employee, itinerant.
It’s rough out there. Sometimes I wonder if administrators even enjoy working with students. So much bitterness and seething anger conveyed from administration down to the front office staff.
Anonymous
05/08/2022 09:39
Subject: Re:Received an email that DS teacher quit Friday.
Anonymous wrote:FCPS doesn’t respect teachers. If they wanted to work on retaining teachers, teachers would get more than a T-shirt or Lanyard for years of service. Imagine after 5 years of service you got a $1,000 bonus? After 10 years a $3,000 bonus? Every teacher can list things the county wastes money on. It is time for parents to help raise teaching salaries!
Oh, the T-shirts! I have nearly 10 from the current school that I’ve been at for 4 years. My admin put together lots of $5-10 gifts for each day during teacher appreciation week. It was nice to be appreciated and I’m at a great school; but, honestly, a $50 gift card would have been much nicer than 5 little gifts that were shoved into a closet. They know this, but I suspect there is some FCPS rule against admin giving gift cards to teachers with school funds…but it would have been preferred.