Methotrexate, a widely used chemotherapy drug, is being used for non-cancer related diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis. And while RA is not fatal, it could shorten a person's life....just like T2 can.

So to the PP who is calling the use of CGM's on overweight patients as "distasteful", do you feel the same way about using methotrexate on those who don't have cancer?

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Anonymous wrote:Some of y’all are going to be so mad when Abbott’s Lingo comes to market.

https://diatribe.org/lingo-abbott’s-new-line-wearable-health-technology

If you’re against wearables for weight loss because diabetics need CGMs to survive, then I imagine you’re also against weight loss drugs (because some people need pharmaceuticals to survive) and weight loss surgery (because some people need surgery to survive). So wrong to help people with technology when it’s sooo simple and all they gotta do is close the chip bag and move more, amirite?

Body hack your way to perfect health! A CGM or continuous ketone monitor will make those pounds just melt away.

That's the reason you couldn't do it before. Lack of a CGM.

No, lack of understanding how the body works. Using CGM to gain that knowledge is definitely a step in the right direction.

Unfortunately, the vast amount of people who lose weight will gain it back. Perhaps this knowledge will help them pick the right foods that keep their hunger and cravings in control. There is a lot of evidence that processed food is made to be addictive. People shouldn't be battling against themselves in the process.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of y’all are going to be so mad when Abbott’s Lingo comes to market.

https://diatribe.org/lingo-abbott’s-new-line-wearable-health-technology

If you’re against wearables for weight loss because diabetics need CGMs to survive, then I imagine you’re also against weight loss drugs (because some people need pharmaceuticals to survive) and weight loss surgery (because some people need surgery to survive). So wrong to help people with technology when it’s sooo simple and all they gotta do is close the chip bag and move more, amirite?

Body hack your way to perfect health! A CGM or continuous ketone monitor will make those pounds just melt away.

That's the reason you couldn't do it before. Lack of a CGM.

It’s unclear to me if you think that CGMs don’t actually work for weight loss, and are making fun of people who think that they will help, or that they do work but you find the use of them morally inferior to doing it via willpower alone, and are therefore grabbing this opportunity on the diet and exercise forum to sneer at the weak-willed fatties.

The first one means you lack information, and the second one just means that you’re a terrible person, or maybe a decent person who is having a terrible-person moment. Which is it? Do you think it’s a scam that doesn’t work and are laughing at the suckers? Or do you think it does work but that it’s a tool that shouldn’t be available to overweight people, because there’s something evil about using technology to lose weight?

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Anonymous wrote:Some of y’all are going to be so mad when Abbott’s Lingo comes to market.

https://diatribe.org/lingo-abbott’s-new-line-wearable-health-technology

If you’re against wearables for weight loss because diabetics need CGMs to survive, then I imagine you’re also against weight loss drugs (because some people need pharmaceuticals to survive) and weight loss surgery (because some people need surgery to survive). So wrong to help people with technology when it’s sooo simple and all they gotta do is close the chip bag and move more, amirite?

Body hack your way to perfect health! A CGM or continuous ketone monitor will make those pounds just melt away.

That's the reason you couldn't do it before. Lack of a CGM.

No, lack of understanding how the body works. Using CGM to gain that knowledge is definitely a step in the right direction.

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Anonymous wrote:My child and I both have T1 diabetes. The dexcom has really been life changing in the exhausting soul-crushing constant management of this horrific chronic disease and I find it….distasteful that it could become a bio hacking or weight loss tool for rich people.

+1. I am T1 as well and I completely agree.

what on earth?? So you're upset because people are using these monitors to AVOID the "horrific chronic disease" you have? You yourself said it is "soul crushing" and "exhausting". Why would you even think this way? Also where do you get off saying it's for "rich people"? I'm going to assume you wrote this during a time of high frustration. But please give some thought to what I just said.

First of all, T1 diabetes is an autoimmune disease that cannot be prevented. And it is horrific and requires literal constant management for the rest of your life to avoid complications and early death. You cannot take a day off. You can’t just eat the right things and exercise.

I’m the original PP who finds it distasteful. I’m not upset, I just think it’s distasteful. It’s like choosing to have a feeding tube when you don’t need one so you can control the amount of calories you take in so you can lose weight. Just kind of weird.

First, I am so sorry that you have T1 Diabetes. I can't imagine how hard that is and I understand how this post would be triggering. I have been contemplating getting a CGM b/c I think having tools in my hand to help me understand my own body is pretty amazing. I view it as folks who use these are choosing to use technology to help them understand and quantify their health. Information about your body and health is powerful. Up until new digital technologies and wearables hit the market, patients relied on their doctors for information about their own bodies and their own health. Imagine being able to know this through tools you own. People without A-fib wear Apple watches. People who are not obese use Fitbits, People without high blood pressure use blood pressure cuffs. They are choosing to use tools to understand their health. This doesn't impact anyone but them. Please don't let this bother you. It's just innovation in the healthcare space.....

Anonymous wrote:Some of y’all are going to be so mad when Abbott’s Lingo comes to market.

https://diatribe.org/lingo-abbott’s-new-line-wearable-health-technology

If you’re against wearables for weight loss because diabetics need CGMs to survive, then I imagine you’re also against weight loss drugs (because some people need pharmaceuticals to survive) and weight loss surgery (because some people need surgery to survive). So wrong to help people with technology when it’s sooo simple and all they gotta do is close the chip bag and move more, amirite?

Body hack your way to perfect health! A CGM or continuous ketone monitor will make those pounds just melt away.

That's the reason you couldn't do it before. Lack of a CGM.

Anonymous wrote:I’m a mom of a T1 14 year old. Non diabetics using dexcoms etc will lower the price and offer faster advancements in technology. I’m all for it and every once in awhile I’lll wear a dex when my son’s transmitter is about to expire. It’s fascinating to see levels rise and fall.

Good point. Is there a shortage of glucose monitors? Rationing? Triage?

Some of y’all are going to be so mad when Abbott’s Lingo comes to market.

https://diatribe.org/lingo-abbott’s-new-line-wearable-health-technology

If you’re against wearables for weight loss because diabetics need CGMs to survive, then I imagine you’re also against weight loss drugs (because some people need pharmaceuticals to survive) and weight loss surgery (because some people need surgery to survive). So wrong to help people with technology when it’s sooo simple and all they gotta do is close the chip bag and move more, amirite?

I’m a mom of a T1 14 year old. Non diabetics using dexcoms etc will lower the price and offer faster advancements in technology. I’m all for it and every once in awhile I’lll wear a dex when my son’s transmitter is about to expire. It’s fascinating to see levels rise and fall.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree it’s super weird and disordered to use a CGM just to try to hack your blood sugar or whatever to lose weight

More disordered than counting calories/macros/ketones/fat grams/WW points? There is no diet that doesn’t include monitoring something. It’s pretty arbitrary to say that tracking your glucose levels is weird and yet weighing your food and counting calories is a-okay. It’s just that one of these things has been normalized by our juggernaut of a diet culture and the other hasn’t.

Sure sure. And it should be totally normal to get an IV or infusion at a lounge to cure the headache (or the hangover). The tech bros do it, so it must be good.

You really seem hung up on the tech bros/biohackers.

There's a reason for that. Who started this trend?

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Anonymous wrote:Agree it’s super weird and disordered to use a CGM just to try to hack your blood sugar or whatever to lose weight

More disordered than counting calories/macros/ketones/fat grams/WW points? There is no diet that doesn’t include monitoring something. It’s pretty arbitrary to say that tracking your glucose levels is weird and yet weighing your food and counting calories is a-okay. It’s just that one of these things has been normalized by our juggernaut of a diet culture and the other hasn’t.

Sure sure. And it should be totally normal to get an IV or infusion at a lounge to cure the headache (or the hangover). The tech bros do it, so it must be good.

You really seem hung up on the tech bros/biohackers.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree it’s super weird and disordered to use a CGM just to try to hack your blood sugar or whatever to lose weight

More disordered than counting calories/macros/ketones/fat grams/WW points? There is no diet that doesn’t include monitoring something. It’s pretty arbitrary to say that tracking your glucose levels is weird and yet weighing your food and counting calories is a-okay. It’s just that one of these things has been normalized by our juggernaut of a diet culture and the other hasn’t.

Sure sure. And it should be totally normal to get an IV or infusion at a lounge to cure the headache (or the hangover). The tech bros do it, so it must be good.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree it’s super weird and disordered to use a CGM just to try to hack your blood sugar or whatever to lose weight

More disordered than counting calories/macros/ketones/fat grams/WW points? There is no diet that doesn’t include monitoring something. It’s pretty arbitrary to say that tracking your glucose levels is weird and yet weighing your food and counting calories is a-okay. It’s just that one of these things has been normalized by our juggernaut of a diet culture and the other hasn’t.

this, exactly
I also want to add that blood sugar levels drive lot of things in our body from sleep quality to mood swings, it affects cravings and hunger. It might be the hack to solve obisity and diabetis epidemics (wich might be chicken and egg problem based on some research)
But sure, lets yet again shame people for trying to lose weight not by simple eat less move more/CICO model that failed way too many times already.

Anonymous wrote:Agree it’s super weird and disordered to use a CGM just to try to hack your blood sugar or whatever to lose weight

More disordered than counting calories/macros/ketones/fat grams/WW points? There is no diet that doesn’t include monitoring something. It’s pretty arbitrary to say that tracking your glucose levels is weird and yet weighing your food and counting calories is a-okay. It’s just that one of these things has been normalized by our juggernaut of a diet culture and the other hasn’t.

Agree it’s super weird and disordered to use a CGM just to try to hack your blood sugar or whatever to lose weight