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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care about what exactly? You mean the people
Who have moved on from covid?

Funny I thought it was the opposite - people figured out boundaries and comfort levels in the pandemic and they are quite fine with telling friends and family to FO if they are pressuring to do, meet, or participate in something they don't want to do. Regardless of how 'upset' that makes other people.

This. So many people are still stuck in 2020 and it’s annoying. Move on already. There’s a jab now for those who want it plus we know what treatments work for it. If you’re relatively healthy, Covid is a nothing-burger. I’m sooooo over those people.

Oh ok. Tell that to the millions who have died around the world. Or the others using horse medicine or injecting bleach.

DP. Millions of vaccinated haven’t died. You made her point. It’s not 2020. We didn’t have vaccines than, now we do. Nobody is dying that is vaccinated.

Liar.

Liar? Do you read or watch the news. The unvaccinated are dying, not the vaccinated. It’s common knowledge for just about everyone but you

Anonymous wrote:Once I realized people were ok with me sacrificing my mental health so they could feel safe, I stopped caring about them. I had to. I was on a cliff, and I needed to be able to step back. I'm sorry that offends people, but I need to convince myself that my life matters.

PP, I agree with you.

I have never been someone suggesting we should mask or socially distance to protect vulnerable people. In fact I did for a year and a half. I took time off from work to manage my kid's virtual school at home, didn't visit family for over a year, got vaccinated and boosted as soon as I was able (having to take multiple days off each time due to side effects). I not only wore masks everywhere I went, I spent hours of my life making, researching, and buying masks for myself and my family (cloth masks at first and then K95s as we learned how much better they were). Hundreds of dollars on PPE. Thousands in lost income due to going PT to educate my kid at home. No travel, socializing online only, etc. Figuring out how to celebrate my kid's birthday and holidays without seeing family or going anywhere. Figuring out how to manage two adults WFH and one kid doing online learning in an 1100 square foot apartment.

And now when I do things like follow CDC guidance on masking, I am screamed at as selfish and ignorant?

Okay.

I don't care (anymore). Y'all are on your own. I'm gonna live my life now.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care about what exactly? You mean the people
Who have moved on from covid?

Funny I thought it was the opposite - people figured out boundaries and comfort levels in the pandemic and they are quite fine with telling friends and family to FO if they are pressuring to do, meet, or participate in something they don't want to do. Regardless of how 'upset' that makes other people.

This. So many people are still stuck in 2020 and it’s annoying. Move on already. There’s a jab now for those who want it plus we know what treatments work for it. If you’re relatively healthy, Covid is a nothing-burger. I’m sooooo over those people.

“Jab” “Nothing-burger.” God, you’re a moron.

Another word for a “shot” offends you?

Ok idiot.

You’re not British. “Jab” in America is idiotic slang used by antivaxxers and COVID deniers/minimizers.

The only idiot here is you.

How do you know PP is not British?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care about what exactly? You mean the people
Who have moved on from covid?

Funny I thought it was the opposite - people figured out boundaries and comfort levels in the pandemic and they are quite fine with telling friends and family to FO if they are pressuring to do, meet, or participate in something they don't want to do. Regardless of how 'upset' that makes other people.

This. So many people are still stuck in 2020 and it’s annoying. Move on already. There’s a jab now for those who want it plus we know what treatments work for it. If you’re relatively healthy, Covid is a nothing-burger. I’m sooooo over those people.

“Jab” “Nothing-burger.” God, you’re a moron.

Another word for a “shot” offends you?

Ok idiot.

You’re not British. “Jab” in America is idiotic slang used by antivaxxers and COVID deniers/minimizers.

The only idiot here is you.

I’m fully vaccinated and I always type “jab”. Just easier to type on a phone and autocorrect constantly botches “vaccinated/vaccine”.

What a really weird thing to get all upset about. You need help.

Don’t care.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are still arguing about Covid from any perspective you are a loser. Move on with your life.

OP was talking about the largely unpublished phenomenon of people dropping out of pre-2020 American social organization. And I’m not just talking about professional “languishing”, though that’s part of it. The turn on, tune in, drop out movement in the late 60’s was nowhere near as successful in transforming the country. Granted we’re rich, but our street is in a perpetual state of half-vacation. No one works full time; people work out, drink and smoke pot, and hang out together A LOT. It’s actually pretty great.

Not everyone is rich. For a low wage worker to lose two weeks of income is a big deal. You don't even get your privilege.

I have on the spot gifted 2 weeks of income (and candidly more than that) to at least a dozen people since Covid started. People who seemed like they were working hard, people who were down that day, people who seemed fine but I was feeling a drive to be generous and make someone happy. I “get” my privilege. And I’ve also worked as a janitor, a cashier, and a server in my life.

But that wasn’t really the topic. OP was posting about a general increase in apathy and I’m saying, yes, that’s a real thing and it’s not changing. The working poor will continue to work their butts off. But as a general matter the US is going to have a much more EU style framework for paid work (if not even more liberal). And I’m 100% in favor of that. I don’t want human beings devoting half of their waking lives to commerce.

Anonymous wrote:If you are still arguing about Covid from any perspective you are a loser. Move on with your life.

OP was talking about the largely unpublished phenomenon of people dropping out of pre-2020 American social organization. And I’m not just talking about professional “languishing”, though that’s part of it. The turn on, tune in, drop out movement in the late 60’s was nowhere near as successful in transforming the country. Granted we’re rich, but our street is in a perpetual state of half-vacation. No one works full time; people work out, drink and smoke pot, and hang out together A LOT. It’s actually pretty great.

Not everyone is rich. For a low wage worker to lose two weeks of income is a big deal. You don't even get your privilege.

If you are still arguing about Covid from any perspective you are a loser. Move on with your life.

OP was talking about the largely unpublished phenomenon of people dropping out of pre-2020 American social organization. And I’m not just talking about professional “languishing”, though that’s part of it. The turn on, tune in, drop out movement in the late 60’s was nowhere near as successful in transforming the country. Granted we’re rich, but our street is in a perpetual state of half-vacation. No one works full time; people work out, drink and smoke pot, and hang out together A LOT. It’s actually pretty great.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care about what exactly? You mean the people
Who have moved on from covid?

Funny I thought it was the opposite - people figured out boundaries and comfort levels in the pandemic and they are quite fine with telling friends and family to FO if they are pressuring to do, meet, or participate in something they don't want to do. Regardless of how 'upset' that makes other people.

This. So many people are still stuck in 2020 and it’s annoying. Move on already. There’s a jab now for those who want it plus we know what treatments work for it. If you’re relatively healthy, Covid is a nothing-burger. I’m sooooo over those people.

Oh ok. Tell that to the millions who have died around the world. Or the others using horse medicine or injecting bleach.

DP. Millions of vaccinated haven’t died. You made her point. It’s not 2020. We didn’t have vaccines than, now we do. Nobody is dying that is vaccinated.

Liar.

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Anonymous wrote:Once I realized people were ok with me sacrificing my mental health so they could feel safe, I stopped caring about them. I had to. I was on a cliff, and I needed to be able to step back. I'm sorry that offends people, but I need to convince myself that my life matters.

You sound like a real drama queen.

Not really, I think she makes a lot of sense. Continued covid precautions are all about people "feeling safe." They have no basis in current reality.

“Sacrificing my mental health” “on a cliff” GMAFB. She is a true drama queen. And I guess a snowflake, too.. I have REAL problems to worry about and don’t use this kind of language.

Isolation kills.

Get therapy. Telehealth is a thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I think OP means the newly pervasive attitude of people constantly saying they don't care--particularly on social media. Like, we get it. You don't care. Being an introvert is now glamorized while liking people and being social is considered a type of weakness. I have a cousin who has been saying this since the nineties, we were part of a close circle of friends but she has been since cut out, and guess what, she actually doesn't "not care"!

I’m an introvert who cares deeply about other people, has good social skills, and makes an effort with others. In fact, I think part of my introversion is due to the fact that I work at being kind and thoughtful towards others. I need alone time to recharge because when I’m with others, I give more than I take.

If people are using introversion to justify being jerks, they aren’t really introverts. They’re just selfish and lazy.

+100

Some people are using "I'm an introvert" when they really mean "I'm a judgemental, anxious, agoraphobic jerk."

I'm an introvert who's living my life. In the early stages of the pandemic, I regularly walked with friends (not 6 feet apart). Then I joined outdoor fitness classes. Then I returned to the gym, saw people indoors with masked. Ate indoors. And progressed until I'm back to normal.

I still need to recharge by myself, at home. I don't need to hang out with people every day or even every weekend. But I have all my shots and value my quality of life. For the people that are naturally more social than me? Cool. For the people that are less? Cool. For the people that are using "introvert" as an excuse to judge people or as a cover for their anxiousness... that's a "you" problem.

Exactly this. The term introvert has been appropriated by people who are anti-social but don't like that term. People who have no friends are now calling themselves "introverts."

Oh okay. Sounds like the extroverts are just mad that their social calendar of endless kids parties are still curtailed. No one cares.

Nope--we are just happy to have friends and have our kids learn how to properly socialize. No one is mad here, and no is assuming you or any other anti-social weirdo like the other PP angry about parties cares.

But you are mad. Your angry denials fool no one. You’re the same people screaming because other people are wearing masks in places you don’t approve of and you demand that the world look and behave the exact way you want it to. Tough crap.

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Anonymous wrote:I think OP means the newly pervasive attitude of people constantly saying they don't care--particularly on social media. Like, we get it. You don't care. Being an introvert is now glamorized while liking people and being social is considered a type of weakness. I have a cousin who has been saying this since the nineties, we were part of a close circle of friends but she has been since cut out, and guess what, she actually doesn't "not care"!

I’m an introvert who cares deeply about other people, has good social skills, and makes an effort with others. In fact, I think part of my introversion is due to the fact that I work at being kind and thoughtful towards others. I need alone time to recharge because when I’m with others, I give more than I take.

If people are using introversion to justify being jerks, they aren’t really introverts. They’re just selfish and lazy.

+100

Some people are using "I'm an introvert" when they really mean "I'm a judgemental, anxious, agoraphobic jerk."

I'm an introvert who's living my life. In the early stages of the pandemic, I regularly walked with friends (not 6 feet apart). Then I joined outdoor fitness classes. Then I returned to the gym, saw people indoors with masked. Ate indoors. And progressed until I'm back to normal.

I still need to recharge by myself, at home. I don't need to hang out with people every day or even every weekend. But I have all my shots and value my quality of life. For the people that are naturally more social than me? Cool. For the people that are less? Cool. For the people that are using "introvert" as an excuse to judge people or as a cover for their anxiousness... that's a "you" problem.

Exactly this. The term introvert has been appropriated by people who are anti-social but don't like that term. People who have no friends are now calling themselves "introverts."

Oh okay. Sounds like the extroverts are just mad that their social calendar of endless kids parties are still curtailed. No one cares.

So much this.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t care about what exactly? You mean the people
Who have moved on from covid?

Funny I thought it was the opposite - people figured out boundaries and comfort levels in the pandemic and they are quite fine with telling friends and family to FO if they are pressuring to do, meet, or participate in something they don't want to do. Regardless of how 'upset' that makes other people.

This. So many people are still stuck in 2020 and it’s annoying. Move on already. There’s a jab now for those who want it plus we know what treatments work for it. If you’re relatively healthy, Covid is a nothing-burger. I’m sooooo over those people.

“Jab” “Nothing-burger.” God, you’re a moron.

Another word for a “shot” offends you?

Ok idiot.

You’re not British. “Jab” in America is idiotic slang used by antivaxxers and COVID deniers/minimizers.

The only idiot here is you.

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Anonymous wrote:Once I realized people were ok with me sacrificing my mental health so they could feel safe, I stopped caring about them. I had to. I was on a cliff, and I needed to be able to step back. I'm sorry that offends people, but I need to convince myself that my life matters.

What does that even mean?

Exactly. If your mental health is fragile get therapy and medication.

Anonymous wrote:Once I realized people were ok with me sacrificing my mental health so they could feel safe, I stopped caring about them. I had to. I was on a cliff, and I needed to be able to step back. I'm sorry that offends people, but I need to convince myself that my life matters.

Your mental health wasn’t great before this, I am betting.