Anonymous
04/13/2022 22:02
Subject: Youngkin thinks he is king
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Again, selective outrage. If he doesn't sign a bill it automatically becomes law 30 days after adjournment. Many to most states are like this.
People, at least know the facts before you start reposting misinformation. You are part of the problem!
So he is behaving differently than any other previous governor but it's "selective" outrage.
Oh.
Oh please I remember Northam signing the SB1303 guaranteeing in person school on the very last day.
Andplusalso - the Ds are no better. Youngkin is basically doing payback for the Ds not approving one of his cabinet selections which they historically just rubber stamp - and so the Ds also behaving differently as well.
It’s really becoming clear to me that the difference between the Rs and the Ds is the difference between gonorrhea and chlamydia.
Dems opposed one nominee who was wholly unfit and approved lots of others without incident. That’s a little different from what Youngkin is doing.
And Youngkin then refused to approve a whole bunch of Northam appointees in retaliation for Dems not approving one trump epa guy. Youngkin is screwing up the “Virginia Way” with his hyper partisan and retaliatory antics.
Why should approve any Northam appointees? Isn't it the current Gov's job to appoint????
DP. Do you not live in Virginia? Or is this just the first time you’ve ever paid attention to state level politics? That’s a serious question, because you seem deeply uninformed about how Virginia’s government typically functions.
I’ve lived in Va for 9 years this week. I was a self identified D until a few weeks ago - so maybe I didn’t pour over what McA and Northam were doing. But this is the type of partisan crap I’ve been seeing from the Ds with respect to Youngkin:
Youngkin says he intends to replace Virginia’s top election official
State board chair calls expected firing ‘a slap in the face’ to election workers
https://www.virginiamercury.com/2022/01/25/youngkin-says-he-intends-to-replace-virginias-top-election-official/
Meanwhile Youngkin was doing nothing new and each of McA and Northam appointed their own top election officials as well if you continue to read the article. So if you have any actual facts you want to share - please enlighten me. I just shared one.
Anonymous
04/13/2022 21:41
Subject: Youngkin thinks he is king
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Again, selective outrage. If he doesn't sign a bill it automatically becomes law 30 days after adjournment. Many to most states are like this.
People, at least know the facts before you start reposting misinformation. You are part of the problem!
So he is behaving differently than any other previous governor but it's "selective" outrage.
Oh.
Oh please I remember Northam signing the SB1303 guaranteeing in person school on the very last day.
Andplusalso - the Ds are no better. Youngkin is basically doing payback for the Ds not approving one of his cabinet selections which they historically just rubber stamp - and so the Ds also behaving differently as well.
It’s really becoming clear to me that the difference between the Rs and the Ds is the difference between gonorrhea and chlamydia.
Dems opposed one nominee who was wholly unfit and approved lots of others without incident. That’s a little different from what Youngkin is doing.
And Youngkin then refused to approve a whole bunch of Northam appointees in retaliation for Dems not approving one trump epa guy. Youngkin is screwing up the “Virginia Way” with his hyper partisan and retaliatory antics.
Why should approve any Northam appointees? Isn't it the current Gov's job to appoint????
DP. Do you not live in Virginia? Or is this just the first time you’ve ever paid attention to state level politics? That’s a serious question, because you seem deeply uninformed about how Virginia’s government typically functions.
DP. I've lived in Virginia for 20 years and never really paid much attention to this stuff. McDonnell was fine except for his unfortunate wife and the transvaginal ultrasounds. Northam was fine.
Youngkin doesn't seem to be starting out auspiciously, but it's hard to tell what is egregious or normal.
Anonymous
04/13/2022 21:35
Subject: Re:Youngkin thinks he is king
+1. That’s how we beat them.
Anonymous
04/13/2022 21:05
Subject: Re:Youngkin thinks he is king
Anonymous wrote:
At least the Ds aren’t trying to manipulate elections and overthrow results.
It really helps when you can count the votes in secret.
Anonymous
04/13/2022 20:19
Subject: Youngkin thinks he is king
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Again, selective outrage. If he doesn't sign a bill it automatically becomes law 30 days after adjournment. Many to most states are like this.
People, at least know the facts before you start reposting misinformation. You are part of the problem!
So he is behaving differently than any other previous governor but it's "selective" outrage.
Oh.
Oh please I remember Northam signing the SB1303 guaranteeing in person school on the very last day.
Andplusalso - the Ds are no better. Youngkin is basically doing payback for the Ds not approving one of his cabinet selections which they historically just rubber stamp - and so the Ds also behaving differently as well.
It’s really becoming clear to me that the difference between the Rs and the Ds is the difference between gonorrhea and chlamydia.
Dems opposed one nominee who was wholly unfit and approved lots of others without incident. That’s a little different from what Youngkin is doing.
And Youngkin then refused to approve a whole bunch of Northam appointees in retaliation for Dems not approving one trump epa guy. Youngkin is screwing up the “Virginia Way” with his hyper partisan and retaliatory antics.
Why should approve any Northam appointees? Isn't it the current Gov's job to appoint????
DP. Do you not live in Virginia? Or is this just the first time you’ve ever paid attention to state level politics? That’s a serious question, because you seem deeply uninformed about how Virginia’s government typically functions.
The PPs sound like clueless external agitators.
Anonymous
04/13/2022 20:17
Subject: Re:Youngkin thinks he is king
At least the Ds aren’t trying to manipulate elections and overthrow results.
Anonymous
04/13/2022 19:59
Subject: Youngkin thinks he is king
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Again, selective outrage. If he doesn't sign a bill it automatically becomes law 30 days after adjournment. Many to most states are like this.
People, at least know the facts before you start reposting misinformation. You are part of the problem!
So he is behaving differently than any other previous governor but it's "selective" outrage.
Oh.
Oh please I remember Northam signing the SB1303 guaranteeing in person school on the very last day.
Andplusalso - the Ds are no better. Youngkin is basically doing payback for the Ds not approving one of his cabinet selections which they historically just rubber stamp - and so the Ds also behaving differently as well.
It’s really becoming clear to me that the difference between the Rs and the Ds is the difference between gonorrhea and chlamydia.
Dems opposed one nominee who was wholly unfit and approved lots of others without incident. That’s a little different from what Youngkin is doing.
And Youngkin then refused to approve a whole bunch of Northam appointees in retaliation for Dems not approving one trump epa guy. Youngkin is screwing up the “Virginia Way” with his hyper partisan and retaliatory antics.
Why should approve any Northam appointees? Isn't it the current Gov's job to appoint????
DP. Do you not live in Virginia? Or is this just the first time you’ve ever paid attention to state level politics? That’s a serious question, because you seem deeply uninformed about how Virginia’s government typically functions.
Anonymous
04/13/2022 19:58
Subject: Re:Youngkin thinks he is king
Anonymous
04/13/2022 19:56
Subject: Youngkin thinks he is king
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Again, selective outrage. If he doesn't sign a bill it automatically becomes law 30 days after adjournment. Many to most states are like this.
People, at least know the facts before you start reposting misinformation. You are part of the problem!
So he is behaving differently than any other previous governor but it's "selective" outrage.
Oh.
Oh please I remember Northam signing the SB1303 guaranteeing in person school on the very last day.
Andplusalso - the Ds are no better. Youngkin is basically doing payback for the Ds not approving one of his cabinet selections which they historically just rubber stamp - and so the Ds also behaving differently as well.
It’s really becoming clear to me that the difference between the Rs and the Ds is the difference between gonorrhea and chlamydia.
Dems opposed one nominee who was wholly unfit and approved lots of others without incident. That’s a little different from what Youngkin is doing.
What exactly is he doing - signing one version of a bill instead of both? It's the same result for citizens.
Custom and practice is for the governor to sign both versions, regardless of who sponsors them. Youngkin is signing the Republican-sponsored House versions while vetoing the Dem-sponsored Senate versions so the Republican sponsors can claim credit and the Democratic sponsors can’t. It is rank partisan politics, and highly divisive. Definitely not he behavior of someone who is trying to a uniter as Youngkin claimed he would be. He’s petty and vindictive, which are not good traits in a leader.
That's why everyone hates politicians. But you notice in the Rs and not the Ds. I'm saying they both do it.
Can you point to specific examples where a Democratic governor of Virginia has signed a Dem-sponsored bill while vetoing the identical Republican-sponsored version from the other chamber?
No but I already cited an example of Ds engaging in petty politicking in this thread when they didn't approve one of his choices that the other party normally approves.
That wasn’t petty politics, that was not be willing to put the person who gutted the EPA under Trump is a position to do the same to Virginia.
Anonymous
04/13/2022 18:20
Subject: Youngkin thinks he is king
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Again, selective outrage. If he doesn't sign a bill it automatically becomes law 30 days after adjournment. Many to most states are like this.
People, at least know the facts before you start reposting misinformation. You are part of the problem!
So he is behaving differently than any other previous governor but it's "selective" outrage.
Oh.
Oh please I remember Northam signing the SB1303 guaranteeing in person school on the very last day.
Andplusalso - the Ds are no better. Youngkin is basically doing payback for the Ds not approving one of his cabinet selections which they historically just rubber stamp - and so the Ds also behaving differently as well.
It’s really becoming clear to me that the difference between the Rs and the Ds is the difference between gonorrhea and chlamydia.
Dems opposed one nominee who was wholly unfit and approved lots of others without incident. That’s a little different from what Youngkin is doing.
And Youngkin then refused to approve a whole bunch of Northam appointees in retaliation for Dems not approving one trump epa guy. Youngkin is screwing up the “Virginia Way” with his hyper partisan and retaliatory antics.
Why should approve any Northam appointees? Isn't it the current Gov's job to appoint????
Anonymous
04/13/2022 18:15
Subject: Youngkin thinks he is king
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Again, selective outrage. If he doesn't sign a bill it automatically becomes law 30 days after adjournment. Many to most states are like this.
People, at least know the facts before you start reposting misinformation. You are part of the problem!
So he is behaving differently than any other previous governor but it's "selective" outrage.
Oh.
Oh please I remember Northam signing the SB1303 guaranteeing in person school on the very last day.
Andplusalso - the Ds are no better. Youngkin is basically doing payback for the Ds not approving one of his cabinet selections which they historically just rubber stamp - and so the Ds also behaving differently as well.
It’s really becoming clear to me that the difference between the Rs and the Ds is the difference between gonorrhea and chlamydia.
Dems opposed one nominee who was wholly unfit and approved lots of others without incident. That’s a little different from what Youngkin is doing.
And Youngkin then refused to approve a whole bunch of Northam appointees in retaliation for Dems not approving one trump epa guy. Youngkin is screwing up the “Virginia Way” with his hyper partisan and retaliatory antics.
Anonymous
04/13/2022 18:06
Subject: Youngkin thinks he is king
Anonymous wrote:I think he's been wonderful.
+1
Anonymous
04/13/2022 18:04
Subject: Youngkin thinks he is king
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For the (multiple? single?) poster who refuses to click on links or acknowledge reality:
"Youngkin vetoed 25 bills that had bipartisan support in the General Assembly, throwing sharp elbows particularly at lawmakers who represent blue areas of Northern Virginia. For instance, he vetoed nine of the 10 bills sponsored by Sen. Adam P. Ebbin (D-Alexandria) while signing identical House bills in six of those cases.
Typically a governor signs both versions, allowing both sponsors bragging rights for getting a bill passed into law. Longtime state legislators said they could not think of a case in which a governor signed one bill and vetoed its companion. “This is my 19th year, and I’ve never seen it before,” said Del. Mark D. Sickles (D-Fairfax).
...
“Some of the vetoes involve very uncontroversial measures … which is not the norm,” said Stephen Farnsworth, a political scientist at the University of Mary Washington. “This is a further example of how partisan politics has become in Virginia.”
...
By vetoing 25 bills and amending 114 in his first legislative session, Youngkin got off to a more aggressive start than recent governors.
Democrat Ralph Northam vetoed 20 bills and amended 60 in 2018, Democrat Terry McAuliffe vetoed 10 and amended 57, and Republican Robert F. McDonnell vetoed none and amended 123, according to figures provided by Youngkin’s office.
Youngkin’s active veto pen surprised longtime Richmond political analyst Bob Holsworth because the governor’s own party controls the House of Delegates.
“That’s what makes it look to be, in some instances, more of a political tit-for-tat than a philosophical objection,” Holsworth said."
How many bills did he approve? Maybe % wise it's not a huge departure. But politics are partisan and moreso now that before - in other words - water is wet. And the left engages in politicking and culture wars just as much as the right.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/05/social-media-democracy-trust-babel/629369/
WHY THE PAST 10 YEARS OF AMERICAN LIFE HAVE BEEN UNIQUELY STUPID
It’s not just a phase.
By Jonathan Haidt
Illustrations by Nicolás Ortega
Are you illiterate? Is that the explanation for your inability to read? If so, then I apologize for engaging unfairly.
Feel free to highlight the total number he APPROVED there. I only see veto and amended.
Anonymous
04/13/2022 18:02
Subject: Youngkin thinks he is king
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For the (multiple? single?) poster who refuses to click on links or acknowledge reality:
"Youngkin vetoed 25 bills that had bipartisan support in the General Assembly, throwing sharp elbows particularly at lawmakers who represent blue areas of Northern Virginia. For instance, he vetoed nine of the 10 bills sponsored by Sen. Adam P. Ebbin (D-Alexandria) while signing identical House bills in six of those cases.
Typically a governor signs both versions, allowing both sponsors bragging rights for getting a bill passed into law. Longtime state legislators said they could not think of a case in which a governor signed one bill and vetoed its companion. “This is my 19th year, and I’ve never seen it before,” said Del. Mark D. Sickles (D-Fairfax).
...
“Some of the vetoes involve very uncontroversial measures … which is not the norm,” said Stephen Farnsworth, a political scientist at the University of Mary Washington. “This is a further example of how partisan politics has become in Virginia.”
...
By vetoing 25 bills and amending 114 in his first legislative session, Youngkin got off to a more aggressive start than recent governors.
Democrat Ralph Northam vetoed 20 bills and amended 60 in 2018, Democrat Terry McAuliffe vetoed 10 and amended 57, and Republican Robert F. McDonnell vetoed none and amended 123, according to figures provided by Youngkin’s office.
Youngkin’s active veto pen surprised longtime Richmond political analyst Bob Holsworth because the governor’s own party controls the House of Delegates.
“That’s what makes it look to be, in some instances, more of a political tit-for-tat than a philosophical objection,” Holsworth said."
How many bills did he approve? Maybe % wise it's not a huge departure. But politics are partisan and moreso now that before - in other words - water is wet. And the left engages in politicking and culture wars just as much as the right.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/05/social-media-democracy-trust-babel/629369/
WHY THE PAST 10 YEARS OF AMERICAN LIFE HAVE BEEN UNIQUELY STUPID
It’s not just a phase.
By Jonathan Haidt
Illustrations by Nicolás Ortega
Are you illiterate? Is that the explanation for your inability to read? If so, then I apologize for engaging unfairly.
Anonymous