Anonymous
04/02/2022 00:18
Subject: Average American woman - new study
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This I definitely believe. Once I leave the DMV area, I end up looking downright skinny with my 5'4" 170 lb body.
I'm originally from the Bay Area, grew up in Socal coastal area, and when I moved to the DC area we went to a fair, and omg... I was shocked at how there were so many obese people.
Large metro areas tend to have less obese people. Once you get out of the large metro areas, it's really shocking.
I don’t know why this map is labeled as metro vs rural. It looks to me like there are a lot of rural areas out west with low obesity rates.
Frankly, it looks like there are higher rates of obesity where black and Hispanic people live. Maybe that is because all of our initial data on creating the BMI comes from white men in the 1950’s.
Anonymous
04/02/2022 00:15
Subject: Re:Average American woman - new study
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The average American women wears a size 16-18? Surely that can't be true.
Have you ever traveled to anywhere west of the DMV and east of the entire west coast? I 100% believe this.
I actually live in the Midwest. I still can't believe it.
Some people, yes. I'll go as far as saying 30%. But the majority??? It's hard to believe.
I moved back to the Midwest. I believe it. What I see around me is unreal. Many are truly obese and it's considered so normal.I feel really bad for the obese kids. It's not right to start
out life like that.
Same.
I live in Chicago, a fairly slender subset of the Midwest. When I travel so far as outside of the immediate suburbs it’s immediately clear how heavy most people are.
Why? I think a part of it is emotional/psychological. But another part is a stressed out culture relying on cars and fast/restaurant food.
Anonymous
04/02/2022 00:13
Subject: Re:Average American woman - new study
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The average American women wears a size 16-18? Surely that can't be true.
Have you ever traveled to anywhere west of the DMV and east of the entire west coast? I 100% believe this.
I also 100% believe this. I’ve always been a somewhat ‘low side of average’ size, currently a 10/12. It seems like the true average was at a 12 not too long ago, so it doesn’t surprise me at all that it’s ticked up.
Oddly, while it doesn’t make me sad, it doesn’t make me happy either…. I still feel like I’d prefer to be a size 6 or 8, and the fact that more people are farther from that than I am doesn’t make me feel better about myself.
Anonymous
04/02/2022 00:10
Subject: Average American woman - new study
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised this isn't more of an issue with liberals. Just imagine how much less food we'd need to produce if Americans ate less/ate normal portions. Less greenhouse gases, less carbon, less trucking food around.
I find it strange too. The food companies are making billions off peddling their junk, the medical system reaps profits from the obese and out of shape, and who suffers? The poor and working folk of America. Yet no one ever suggests to just eat less and stop buying crap.
Is this satire?
Don’t people suggest this all of the time?
Anonymous
04/02/2022 00:04
Subject: Average American woman - new study
Sugar.
Anonymous
04/01/2022 23:55
Subject: Average American woman - new study
Average American man is pretty big too. Why? Food industry and all the lobbying they do to convince us that eating tons of grains and fake meat full of soy is healthy. Also, all the seed oils that replaced animal fats and are now wrecking havoc in our bodies. Try going outside of any metro area and see if there is anything besides Taco Bell or Wendy’s.
Anonymous
04/01/2022 23:55
Subject: Re:Average American woman - new study
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Compare the Sidwell lunch menu to your local public and you have your answer. Add in food deserts, too.
I work in a Title 1 school and see what they serve the kids for free breakfast, lunch, and snack. All microwaved processed foods like hot dogs, cheesy pretzels, chocolate milk, nachos with cheese dip, etc.
This is what they offer to ALL kids at ALL public schools now.
The food is definitely terrible, but the parents contribute to make it even worse. I was giving my kids a small pack of goldfish and a banana for snack. Their friends are almost uniformly bringing skittles, pockies, gummy bears, and other bullsh*t so I'm constantly getting told how I'm such a strict parent. I pointed out that like half the kids in their school are fat and they rebut with "not in our class" (they are in the AAP class where somehow the kids eat garbage for snack and are still thin). My response is that their friends will have diabetes soon after college. It's so unfortunate what we are doing to our kids in America. I went to school in Germany as a kid and the food there is actually like a home-cooked meal with actual food groups compared to what we get in the US.
You know, I’m not sure that I buy this narrative.
They have done twin studies with genetically identical twins growing up in different households, and their BMI’s are pretty much the same when they get to adulthood. You actually can’t say this for very many other things that we tend to think of as genetic disorders, like schizophrenia or bipolar disorder.
I don’t know what’s going on at a population level, but I don’t think that you can blame this all on individual parents and their snack choices.
Genetics don’t make you fat, but genetics can play a large role in your appetite and how your brain signals you’ve had enough food. In other words, some people are pre-disposed to over eating. And in the US where cheap garbage food is pretty much limitless and takes nearly zero effort to get- disaster. BUT this can be over come with lifestyle changes and making a conscious effort to eat (perhaps a lot) less than maybe what you want to eat. But that is hard to do, as a result, people end up overweight by default
So, you are saying that children’s satiety signals are messed up due to genetics, and because they have limitless access to garbage food, this is what’s making them overweight?
So, your answer is to, what? Put children on a calorie restricted diet from birth? Even if that makes them very uncomfortable?
Frankly, your solution sounds abusive and like a much bigger disaster than a bunch of size 16 ladies walking around. Also, you have absolutely zero evidence that putting children on a calorie restricted diet makes them physically healthier as adults.
Anonymous
04/01/2022 23:51
Subject: Re:Average American woman - new study
Food deserts have been largely disproved. Fresh veggies rot in bodegas and children will choose fatty carbs over healthier options at school.I think most of America is broke and depressed. They have lost a sense of community huddled over devices, no longer trust their government and take little comfort in faith. Their health insurance is crappy and they are treated poorly by staff. Many doctor’s offices routinely have times where they don’t answer their phones; you can leave a message or book online. People’s needs are met with supreme indifference at every turn. Hard work does not make them upwardly mobile. Many do not have travel or vacations to anticipate. Is it any wonder that they revel in the pleasure of cheap, satisfying junk food? What do they have to look forward to?
Anonymous
04/01/2022 23:28
Subject: Re:Average American woman - new study
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The average American women wears a size 16-18? Surely that can't be true.
Have you ever traveled to anywhere west of the DMV and east of the entire west coast? I 100% believe this.
I actually live in the Midwest. I still can't believe it.
Some people, yes. I'll go as far as saying 30%. But the majority??? It's hard to believe.
I moved back to the Midwest. I believe it. What I see around me is unreal. Many are truly obese and it's considered so normal.I feel really bad for the obese kids. It's not right to start
out life like that.
Anonymous
04/01/2022 23:17
Subject: Re:Average American woman - new study
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Compare the Sidwell lunch menu to your local public and you have your answer. Add in food deserts, too.
I work in a Title 1 school and see what they serve the kids for free breakfast, lunch, and snack. All microwaved processed foods like hot dogs, cheesy pretzels, chocolate milk, nachos with cheese dip, etc.
This is what they offer to ALL kids at ALL public schools now.
The food is definitely terrible, but the parents contribute to make it even worse. I was giving my kids a small pack of goldfish and a banana for snack. Their friends are almost uniformly bringing skittles, pockies, gummy bears, and other bullsh*t so I'm constantly getting told how I'm such a strict parent. I pointed out that like half the kids in their school are fat and they rebut with "not in our class" (they are in the AAP class where somehow the kids eat garbage for snack and are still thin). My response is that their friends will have diabetes soon after college. It's so unfortunate what we are doing to our kids in America. I went to school in Germany as a kid and the food there is actually like a home-cooked meal with actual food groups compared to what we get in the US.
You know, I’m not sure that I buy this narrative.
They have done twin studies with genetically identical twins growing up in different households, and their BMI’s are pretty much the same when they get to adulthood. You actually can’t say this for very many other things that we tend to think of as genetic disorders, like schizophrenia or bipolar disorder.
I don’t know what’s going on at a population level, but I don’t think that you can blame this all on individual parents and their snack choices.
Genetics don’t make you fat, but genetics can play a large role in your appetite and how your brain signals you’ve had enough food. In other words, some people are pre-disposed to over eating. And in the US where cheap garbage food is pretty much limitless and takes nearly zero effort to get- disaster. BUT this can be over come with lifestyle changes and making a conscious effort to eat (perhaps a lot) less than maybe what you want to eat. But that is hard to do, as a result, people end up overweight by default
Anonymous
04/01/2022 22:39
Subject: Re:Average American woman - new study
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Compare the Sidwell lunch menu to your local public and you have your answer. Add in food deserts, too.
I work in a Title 1 school and see what they serve the kids for free breakfast, lunch, and snack. All microwaved processed foods like hot dogs, cheesy pretzels, chocolate milk, nachos with cheese dip, etc.
This is what they offer to ALL kids at ALL public schools now.
The food is definitely terrible, but the parents contribute to make it even worse. I was giving my kids a small pack of goldfish and a banana for snack. Their friends are almost uniformly bringing skittles, pockies, gummy bears, and other bullsh*t so I'm constantly getting told how I'm such a strict parent. I pointed out that like half the kids in their school are fat and they rebut with "not in our class" (they are in the AAP class where somehow the kids eat garbage for snack and are still thin). My response is that their friends will have diabetes soon after college. It's so unfortunate what we are doing to our kids in America. I went to school in Germany as a kid and the food there is actually like a home-cooked meal with actual food groups compared to what we get in the US.
You know, I’m not sure that I buy this narrative.
They have done twin studies with genetically identical twins growing up in different households, and their BMI’s are pretty much the same when they get to adulthood. You actually can’t say this for very many other things that we tend to think of as genetic disorders, like schizophrenia or bipolar disorder.
I don’t know what’s going on at a population level, but I don’t think that you can blame this all on individual parents and their snack choices.
Anonymous
04/01/2022 22:35
Subject: Re:Average American woman - new study
Having moved here years ago as a young adult from a country with overhalf the obesity rate as us. I was shocked at how many big people I saw. But I was also surprised at all the portion sizes at restaurants, sodas, even the kiddie size ice cream cup is a normal size for an aft elsewhere. Plus add the snack culture, the emphasis on grain products and highly processed, highly palatable salty food, you've got a recipe for disaster. Before skinny people pay ourselves on the back though, we are not immune to "fat people diseases". Our rates of type 2 diabetes is half of an obese person. But half the rate is still too high. Metabolic disease, while much more prevalent in obese people, still afflicts the skinny ones too.
Anonymous
04/01/2022 22:21
Subject: Re:Average American woman - new study
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Compare the Sidwell lunch menu to your local public and you have your answer. Add in food deserts, too.
I work in a Title 1 school and see what they serve the kids for free breakfast, lunch, and snack. All microwaved processed foods like hot dogs, cheesy pretzels, chocolate milk, nachos with cheese dip, etc.
This is what they offer to ALL kids at ALL public schools now.
The food is definitely terrible, but the parents contribute to make it even worse. I was giving my kids a small pack of goldfish and a banana for snack. Their friends are almost uniformly bringing skittles, pockies, gummy bears, and other bullsh*t so I'm constantly getting told how I'm such a strict parent. I pointed out that like half the kids in their school are fat and they rebut with "not in our class" (they are in the AAP class where somehow the kids eat garbage for snack and are still thin). My response is that their friends will have diabetes soon after college. It's so unfortunate what we are doing to our kids in America. I went to school in Germany as a kid and the food there is actually like a home-cooked meal with actual food groups compared to what we get in the US.
I can not stress this enough: F alllll the way off.
You’re patting yourself on the back for giving your kid Goldfish? That’s no better than the stuff you mention.
Anonymous
04/01/2022 22:17
Subject: Re:Average American woman - new study
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Compare the Sidwell lunch menu to your local public and you have your answer. Add in food deserts, too.
I work in a Title 1 school and see what they serve the kids for free breakfast, lunch, and snack. All microwaved processed foods like hot dogs, cheesy pretzels, chocolate milk, nachos with cheese dip, etc.
This is what they offer to ALL kids at ALL public schools now.
The food is definitely terrible, but the parents contribute to make it even worse. I was giving my kids a small pack of goldfish and a banana for snack. Their friends are almost uniformly bringing skittles, pockies, gummy bears, and other bullsh*t so I'm constantly getting told how I'm such a strict parent. I pointed out that like half the kids in their school are fat and they rebut with "not in our class" (they are in the AAP class where somehow the kids eat garbage for snack and are still thin). My response is that their friends will have diabetes soon after college. It's so unfortunate what we are doing to our kids in America. I went to school in Germany as a kid and the food there is actually like a home-cooked meal with actual food groups compared to what we get in the US.
You’re patting yourself on the back for giving your kid Goldfish? That’s no better than the stuff you mention.
Anonymous
04/01/2022 22:15
Subject: Re:Average American woman - new study
Anonymous wrote:This is DCUM's favorite hobby. Showing hate and disgust for fat people. And pretending it's about "health."
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