Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Williams is tiny and half the kids there are legacies.

Williams alum here & there really are not that many legacies. I’m old son my class had just over 500 and there were ~35 legacies

It’s not just the legacies but all of the hooks that receive special consideration, beginning with athletes. They all add up. As for 35 not being not that many, 35 = 7%, which is a significant number of students who are given special consideration.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: white dd 1550, 4.0 (private school) national award in EC sport, is sporty (polo) and arty (has a portfolio) and academic

Pomona-denied
Haverford- WL
Scripps-WL
Bowdoin-WL
but ACCEPTED UCLA

and Santa Clara - accepted with $11k + merit for 4 years


It's all become a crapshoot if you are white

The vast majority of athlete spots go to white students, primarily from affluent backgrounds. Not the sports that everyone thinks of like football, basketball, soccer and LAX but tennis, water polo, swimming, hockey, field hockey, fencing, etc. why do you think so many affluent white families are obsessed with their kids sports. It is an in at many colleges, especially the ones on this list. Read who gets in and why, particularly the information on how many slots are filled by white athletes at Amherst—it’s not URMs filling all the spots. Large percentage go to white athletes.

Yes, blame the spots reserved for athletes if you’re going to be bitter about a high achieving student being denied.

Admission to highly selective private schools may be a crapshoot if you white, but life is a crapshoot in this society if you are not white.

Anonymous wrote:Williams is tiny and half the kids there are legacies.

Williams alum here & there really are not that many legacies. I’m old son my class had just over 500 and there were ~35 legacies

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1500+ SAT all As at highly regarded private (school doesn’t offer AP classes but DC took 4 and got 4s and 5s). Varsity sport, leadership in ECs. Legacy - rejected. Waitlisted at all others. No acceptances today. Brutal.

If your kid is wsitlisted at all the other schools they applied to, it seems they weren't realistic.

How can the private be highly regarded but offer no APs?? Something doesn’t make sense here.

Most of the top privates have gotten rid of APs or are phasing them out

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Williams is tiny and half the kids there are legacies.

Didn't help my kid, with straight A's in HS and a 4.53 wGPA, a 35 ACT, and good EC's. Second kid who didn't get in to Williams, notwithstanding legacy status. Both kids were easily qualified to get in. I get that there are tons of super qualified kids who are rejected every year, but its really left a sour taste in my mouth. Gonna be a while before I think fondly of Williams again. I'll remember the good education and experience I had there, and I value the friends I made there, but I'm pretty mad at the College right now.

Mine the same but 2 years ago. Straight A’s, 36 ACT, and goo EC’s, coming from a rigorous curriculum at a top HS. So, I completely understand your feelings.

The problem with Williams is that they sponsor just about every sport that NESCAC offers. With 800+ athletes at a college with 2000+ students, almost 40% of the admissions spots are taken before otherwise regular applicants are even considered, i.e. 200 of 500+ In a freshman clas are athletes. It seems that the priorities are screwy when this high a percent of the spots are claimed for those whose achievements are non-academic at what is supposedly top academic school.

But there’s more. 170+ international students are enrolled, or about 40+ per freshman class. With a number of other spots reserved for those with other hooks, it would seem that less than half of the spots of an incoming freshman class go to students based on academic merit. Among NESCAC members, the number of athletes at Williams is 2nd only to Tufts, a school almost triple its size.

Anonymous wrote: white dd 1550, 4.0 (private school) national award in EC sport, is sporty (polo) and arty (has a portfolio) and academic

Pomona-denied
Haverford- WL
Scripps-WL
Bowdoin-WL
but ACCEPTED UCLA

and Santa Clara - accepted with $11k + merit for 4 years


It's all become a crapshoot if you are white

The vast majority of athlete spots go to white students, primarily from affluent backgrounds. Not the sports that everyone thinks of like football, basketball, soccer and LAX but tennis, water polo, swimming, hockey, field hockey, fencing, etc. why do you think so many affluent white families are obsessed with their kids sports. It is an in at many colleges, especially the ones on this list. Read who gets in and why, particularly the information on how many slots are filled by white athletes at Amherst—it’s not URMs filling all the spots. Large percentage go to white athletes.

U of Miami out

Thank god my 2 DS’ got into Amherst and Middlebury as recruited athletes. No chance are they admitted with no hook. Wow.

Anonymous wrote:PP here. Was trying to add, … but Pomona overshot by a lot here.

I’m sorry— are you saying we need quotas for white students now?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1500+ SAT all As at highly regarded private (school doesn’t offer AP classes but DC took 4 and got 4s and 5s). Varsity sport, leadership in ECs. Legacy - rejected. Waitlisted at all others. No acceptances today. Brutal.

Similar to mine. 1560 SAT, 3.98UW, 4.85W, top magnet, 5s on APs, NMF, actor who won awards and has worked professionally, capt of sports team, national award, state orch, multiple regional awards, club pres, decent service. Rejected from Williams.

You guys sound surprised. They rejected 93% of applicants.

Your children sound amazing, they honestly do, but that does not mean all doors will be open to then. Adjust your attitude.

Please try not to be a jerk. Clearly we knew that this was not a given, but her stats are amazing (this is by no means a complete list). Heaven forbid you all just offer a little sympathy.

Everyone's stats are amazing.

Please, these kids are a dime a dozen, which is why they all think they are entitled to top 50 schools.

Something has to give. Otherwise, the colleges may as well use lottery ping pong balls.

Anonymous wrote:I’m reading Reddit right now and all these kids who feel their world is over. They worked incredibly hard just to end up in many cases at places as other peers without these insane stats. They are already lamenting how they should have enjoyed high school more. This makes me so sad and nervous about this process in the near future when my kids go through it.

What sub?

Anonymous wrote:Williams is tiny and half the kids there are legacies.

Didn't help my kid, with straight A's in HS and a 4.53 wGPA, a 35 ACT, and good EC's. Second kid who didn't get in to Williams, notwithstanding legacy status. Both kids were easily qualified to get in. I get that there are tons of super qualified kids who are rejected every year, but its really left a sour taste in my mouth. Gonna be a while before I think fondly of Williams again. I'll remember the good education and experience I had there, and I value the friends I made there, but I'm pretty mad at the College right now.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: white dd 1550, 4.0 (private school) national award in EC sport, is sporty (polo) and arty (has a portfolio) and academic

Pomona-denied
Haverford- WL
Scripps-WL
Bowdoin-WL
but ACCEPTED UCLA

and Santa Clara - accepted with $11k + merit for 4 years


It's all become a crapshoot if you are white

WOW! WL at Scripps with those stats is really unbelievable...but maybe polo is just not that compelling for SLACs.

Congrats on UCLA...that's terrific.

Also, try to refrain from the race comments...it's ugly, unnecessary and detracts from your impressive DD.

Yes, I'm another disappointed mom above. Wanted to give this poster a pat on the back & congrats until I got to that last line. So many high stats kids with much to offer. Still a congrats to her kid on a good acceptance.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1500+ SAT all As at highly regarded private (school doesn’t offer AP classes but DC took 4 and got 4s and 5s). Varsity sport, leadership in ECs. Legacy - rejected. Waitlisted at all others. No acceptances today. Brutal.

Similar to mine. 1560 SAT, 3.98UW, 4.85W, top magnet, 5s on APs, NMF, actor who won awards and has worked professionally, capt of sports team, national award, state orch, multiple regional awards, club pres, decent service. Rejected from Williams.

You guys sound surprised. They rejected 93% of applicants.

Your children sound amazing, they honestly do, but that does not mean all doors will be open to then. Adjust your attitude.

Please try not to be a jerk. Clearly we knew that this was not a given, but her stats are amazing (this is by no means a complete list). Heaven forbid you all just offer a little sympathy.

Anonymous wrote: white dd 1550, 4.0 (private school) national award in EC sport, is sporty (polo) and arty (has a portfolio) and academic

Pomona-denied
Haverford- WL
Scripps-WL
Bowdoin-WL
but ACCEPTED UCLA

and Santa Clara - accepted with $11k + merit for 4 years


It's all become a crapshoot if you are white

HBCUs are getting bomb threats.

And your DD has *only* been accepted to UCLA thus far. Poor thing!