The desire for financial security/upgrade is a strong primal motivator in women that is always going to override any niceties about moral character. Encourage your daughters to be financially independent.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it’s 2022 and we’re done blaming women for the transgressions of men. What an affair partner does is not good, but they’re not the one breaking their vows, taking away their spouses informed consent, and harming their children.

The H (or W) and the AP are BOTH betrayers and both are betraying the married spouse and kids. Riding shotgun counts.

Sorry no. The AP has no loyalty to the spouse who most likely they have never met. The wronged spouse was betrayed by one person, their spouse.

This thread is so funny. So many people trying redirect fault. Whatever helps you get through the day.

Loyalty? Who the hell thinks of it that way? "The AP has no integrity or empathy". Fixed it for you. Anyone in an affair, married or not does not have good character. They know what they are doing is wrong and will harm someone. And, let's be real, all of these people are wishing for the spouse to get out of the picture, even if it is via death, illness or divorce so they can have that loser cheater all to themselves. Hardly the thoughts of a kind soul.

BINGO!! Some even leave direct clues so the spouse will find out.

It helps the OW/OM to only think of the AP's spouse/children in the abstract. They aren't 'real people' to them. It allows them to act in ways unbefitting of anyone that is a decent, empathetic person. People in affairs (both parties) have a lot of means to compartmentalize and justify things that they know are wrong or not morally acceptable as you can see with the way they have responded on this thread.

People have stated facts: if you knowingly enter into an adulterous affair (either party) you lack character and integrity. That's a fact. IF you don't want people to know that you routinely 'date' married people, you obviously know what you are doing is wrong even if you have said no vows. And, what does it matter if you are 10% wrong or 50% wrong, etc., you are still wrong. If it makes you feel better to only be 10% party to someone's pain to continue your nefarious ways, carry on.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh. I was the other woman once. I regret it. It was harmful and stupid and I would never do it again. But I can't understand why anyone would stay married to such an ass.[b]

I can't understand why anyone would marry such a low character woman who lacks integrity like you. Touche

Well. My admission of a dumb thing I did decades ago on an anonymous internet forum seems to have hit you in the feels. I stand by my statement.

Only stupid APs use the phrase "the feels". Barf

HA. So true

And "Babe". "Hey Babe". These types are all the same.

And talk about their marriages as 'their situation'. God- such incredible losers with their AP lingo.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it’s 2022 and we’re done blaming women for the transgressions of men. What an affair partner does is not good, but they’re not the one breaking their vows, taking away their spouses informed consent, and harming their children.

The H (or W) and the AP are BOTH betrayers and both are betraying the married spouse and kids. Riding shotgun counts.

Sorry no. The AP has no loyalty to the spouse who most likely they have never met. The wronged spouse was betrayed by one person, their spouse.

This thread is so funny. So many people trying redirect fault. Whatever helps you get through the day.

Loyalty? Who the hell thinks of it that way? "The AP has no integrity or empathy". Fixed it for you. Anyone in an affair, married or not does not have good character. They know what they are doing is wrong and will harm someone. And, let's be real, all of these people are wishing for the spouse to get out of the picture, even if it is via death, illness or divorce so they can have that loser cheater all to themselves. Hardly the thoughts of a kind soul.

BINGO!! Some even leave direct clues so the spouse will find out.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it’s 2022 and we’re done blaming women for the transgressions of men. What an affair partner does is not good, but they’re not the one breaking their vows, taking away their spouses informed consent, and harming their children.

+1

They have no vows. If the man is chearing, it's on him. Not the woman. JFC, it's not the 1800s, stop placing the blame on women.

How about we say man gets 70% of the blame and the woman gets 30%?
I’m intentionally being ridiculous. The point is that “blame” is not all or nothing.

I agree with you, but the hysterics on this thread focus not on the person with a closer responsibility to his wife and children, but to someone else.

Another way to view it is imagine a situation where the wife needs a kidney transplant. The husband and a female friend of his are both perfect matches for her. If the husband refuses to save his wife’s life, that is a much bigger dick move than if a female friend refuses to save his wife’s life, even though of course it would be good of her to help his wife, he has the obligation, she does not.

And the judges award her: 10.0!!! Outstanding performance in mental gymnastics.

There are no hysterics. There are just a bunch of people stating that 'good' people don't have affairs with married people. This obviously upsets you.

NP. Nobody is saying APs are moral or right. They’re not betraying anyone, except maybe their own self-respect. They’re not hurting anyone that they have made vows to. They are not damaging their own children whom they have an obligation to protect. It’s not right. But it is not the same level of wrong that is being unfaithful to your spouse and family.

Keep on performing those mental gymnastics. There isn't a sliding scale. Oh wow---they aren't doing something to damage their own kids or spouse---just someone else's. Phew--that's a relief.

You really are sick in the head.

Here's something, do better. How about trying not to lack character or do harm at any level?

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Anonymous wrote:Because it’s 2022 and we’re done blaming women for the transgressions of men. What an affair partner does is not good, but they’re not the one breaking their vows, taking away their spouses informed consent, and harming their children.

+1

They have no vows. If the man is chearing, it's on him. Not the woman. JFC, it's not the 1800s, stop placing the blame on women.

How about we say man gets 70% of the blame and the woman gets 30%?
I’m intentionally being ridiculous. The point is that “blame” is not all or nothing.

I agree with you, but the hysterics on this thread focus not on the person with a closer responsibility to his wife and children, but to someone else.

Another way to view it is imagine a situation where the wife needs a kidney transplant. The husband and a female friend of his are both perfect matches for her. If the husband refuses to save his wife’s life, that is a much bigger dick move than if a female friend refuses to save his wife’s life, even though of course it would be good of her to help his wife, he has the obligation, she does not.

And the judges award her: 10.0!!! Outstanding performance in mental gymnastics.

There are no hysterics. There are just a bunch of people stating that 'good' people don't have affairs with married people. This obviously upsets you.

NP. Nobody is saying APs are moral or right. They’re not betraying anyone, except maybe their own self-respect. They’re not hurting anyone that they have made vows to. They are not damaging their own children whom they have an obligation to protect. It’s not right. But it is not the same level of wrong that is being unfaithful to your spouse and family.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it’s 2022 and we’re done blaming women for the transgressions of men. What an affair partner does is not good, but they’re not the one breaking their vows, taking away their spouses informed consent, and harming their children.

The H (or W) and the AP are BOTH betrayers and both are betraying the married spouse and kids. Riding shotgun counts.

Sorry no. The AP has no loyalty to the spouse who most likely they have never met. The wronged spouse was betrayed by one person, their spouse.

This thread is so funny. So many people trying redirect fault. Whatever helps you get through the day.

Loyalty? Who the hell thinks of it that way? "The AP has no integrity or empathy". Fixed it for you. Anyone in an affair, married or not does not have good character. They know what they are doing is wrong and will harm someone. And, let's be real, all of these people are wishing for the spouse to get out of the picture, even if it is via death, illness or divorce so they can have that loser cheater all to themselves. Hardly the thoughts of a kind soul.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh. I was the other woman once. I regret it. It was harmful and stupid and I would never do it again. But I can't understand why anyone would stay married to such an ass.[b]

I can't understand why anyone would marry such a low character woman who lacks integrity like you. Touche

Well. My admission of a dumb thing I did decades ago on an anonymous internet forum seems to have hit you in the feels. I stand by my statement.

Only stupid APs use the phrase "the feels". Barf

HA. So true

And "Babe". "Hey Babe". These types are all the same.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because it’s 2022 and we’re done blaming women for the transgressions of men. What an affair partner does is not good, but they’re not the one breaking their vows, taking away their spouses informed consent, and harming their children.

+1

They have no vows. If the man is chearing, it's on him. Not the woman. JFC, it's not the 1800s, stop placing the blame on women.

How about we say man gets 70% of the blame and the woman gets 30%?
I’m intentionally being ridiculous. The point is that “blame” is not all or nothing.

I agree with you, but the hysterics on this thread focus not on the person with a closer responsibility to his wife and children, but to someone else.

Another way to view it is imagine a situation where the wife needs a kidney transplant. The husband and a female friend of his are both perfect matches for her. If the husband refuses to save his wife’s life, that is a much bigger dick move than if a female friend refuses to save his wife’s life, even though of course it would be good of her to help his wife, he has the obligation, she does not.

And the judges award her: 10.0!!! Outstanding performance in mental gymnastics.

There are no hysterics. There are just a bunch of people stating that 'good' people don't have affairs with married people. This obviously upsets you.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because it’s 2022 and we’re done blaming women for the transgressions of men. What an affair partner does is not good, but they’re not the one breaking their vows, taking away their spouses informed consent, and harming their children.

The H (or W) and the AP are BOTH betrayers and both are betraying the married spouse and kids. Riding shotgun counts.

Sorry no. The AP has no loyalty to the spouse who most likely they have never met. The wronged spouse was betrayed by one person, their spouse.

This thread is so funny. So many people trying redirect fault. Whatever helps you get through the day.

It's not binary. It can be the fault of both cheating spouse *and* the affair partner. Even if it's more the fault of the cheating spouse, that doesn't mean the affair partner is somehow not a piece of shit who is hurting someone.

They continue to skip over the last part. But, comes with being self-centered and having no ethics.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it’s 2022 and we’re done blaming women for the transgressions of men. What an affair partner does is not good, but they’re not the one breaking their vows, taking away their spouses informed consent, and harming their children.

The H (or W) and the AP are BOTH betrayers and both are betraying the married spouse and kids. Riding shotgun counts.

Sorry no. The AP has no loyalty to the spouse who most likely they have never met. The wronged spouse was betrayed by one person, their spouse.

This thread is so funny. So many people trying redirect fault. Whatever helps you get through the day.

Correct, never met her---but obsessively stalk her on the Internet and find any piece of 'intel' they can on.

Oh, they are all so sweet and innocent these APs. Lots of Mental Gymnastics to justify have zero character, no empathy and no integrity.

If you go through life not caring how YOUR actions ultimately affect someone else, you are not a good person.

Children raised in a good, honest and loving home, are taught that sleeping with someone who is in a marriage is not a 'good thing'. It says a lot about their negative character.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it’s 2022 and we’re done blaming women for the transgressions of men. What an affair partner does is not good, but they’re not the one breaking their vows, taking away their spouses informed consent, and harming their children.

The H (or W) and the AP are BOTH betrayers and both are betraying the married spouse and kids. Riding shotgun counts.

Sorry no. The AP has no loyalty to the spouse who most likely they have never met. The wronged spouse was betrayed by one person, their spouse.

This thread is so funny. So many people trying redirect fault. Whatever helps you get through the day.

It's not binary. It can be the fault of both cheating spouse *and* the affair partner. Even if it's more the fault of the cheating spouse, that doesn't mean the affair partner is somehow not a piece of shit who is hurting someone.

Same reason people don't wear masks and get vaccinated during a pandemic. Their "freedom" is more important than the impact of their actions on third parties.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it’s 2022 and we’re done blaming women for the transgressions of men. What an affair partner does is not good, but they’re not the one breaking their vows, taking away their spouses informed consent, and harming their children.

+1

They have no vows. If the man is chearing, it's on him. Not the woman. JFC, it's not the 1800s, stop placing the blame on women.

How about we say man gets 70% of the blame and the woman gets 30%?
I’m intentionally being ridiculous. The point is that “blame” is not all or nothing.

I agree with you, but the hysterics on this thread focus not on the person with a closer responsibility to his wife and children, but to someone else.

Another way to view it is imagine a situation where the wife needs a kidney transplant. The husband and a female friend of his are both perfect matches for her. If the husband refuses to save his wife’s life, that is a much bigger dick move than if a female friend refuses to save his wife’s life, even though of course it would be good of her to help his wife, he has the obligation, she does not.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it’s 2022 and we’re done blaming women for the transgressions of men. What an affair partner does is not good, but they’re not the one breaking their vows, taking away their spouses informed consent, and harming their children.

The H (or W) and the AP are BOTH betrayers and both are betraying the married spouse and kids. Riding shotgun counts.

Sorry no. The AP has no loyalty to the spouse who most likely they have never met. The wronged spouse was betrayed by one person, their spouse.

This thread is so funny. So many people trying redirect fault. Whatever helps you get through the day.