Anonymous
02/28/2022 05:59
Subject: Re:Mt Holyoke vs Tufts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stand-alone women's colleges like MHC, Smith and Wellesley (unlike Barnard or Bryn Mawr) are very distinctive in culture. A student really needs to be sure she wants that experience. I went to Wellesley and am grateful for the education I received there and for the wonderful friends I made, but if the Way-Back Machine landed in my front yard, I'd go back to HS and choose a coed college.
Just curious. How is Bryan Mawr not a stand-alone women’s college? I get your point about Barnard but Bryn Mawr?
True, Barnard is actually part of Columbia, but Bryn Mawr is literally next door to Haverford, the dining halls on both campuses are open to students from both schools, and students at either school can very easily take courses at the other school.
So, how does this make Bryan Mawr different from Wellesley? Less than 2 miles from Babson, today’s Wellesley women can take courses at Babson and vice versa. And students on the meal plan can use each other’s cafeterias. Close to 400 students cross register each year within the BOW Collaborative in Wellesley.
It's true that Wellesley is very close to Babson but the most popular is the cross-registration registration program with MIT, as well as a separate Undergraduate Research Opportunities program with MIT. There are also cross-registration with Brandeis and Olin. To some extent the MHC participation in the 5-college consortium serves the same.
I don’t know what “the most popular is the cross-registration program with MIT” even means. Source? Numbers? Regardless of how many Wellesley students WANT to cross-register at MIT, there are incredible obstacles to overcome. The first is logistics. there is an additional 2 hours of travel time by bus or one hour by car minimum for each class attended. Is anyone doing this for a course that meets 3 times per week? Second is fitting it into your schedule, not to mention issues related to the overall schedules obetween the 2 colleges. Third is the requirement that each Wellesley student attending MIT must be offset by an MIT student attending Wellesley. How many MIT students are doing that when they can cross-register next door at Harvard?
Cross-registration between Wellesley and MIT is more analogous to Bryn Mawr andUPenn except that travel between BMC and UPenn is easier. In neither case is there the proximity that allows students to bike between campuses or bump into each other at the same local coffee shops.
Anonymous
02/28/2022 05:47
Subject: Re:Mt Holyoke vs Tufts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stand-alone women's colleges like MHC, Smith and Wellesley (unlike Barnard or Bryn Mawr) are very distinctive in culture. A student really needs to be sure she wants that experience. I went to Wellesley and am grateful for the education I received there and for the wonderful friends I made, but if the Way-Back Machine landed in my front yard, I'd go back to HS and choose a coed college.
Just curious. How is Bryan Mawr not a stand-alone women’s college? I get your point about Barnard but Bryn Mawr?
True, Barnard is actually part of Columbia, but Bryn Mawr is literally next door to Haverford, the dining halls on both campuses are open to students from both schools, and students at either school can very easily take courses at the other school.
No, Barnard is not a part of Columbia. Columbia College, Columbia Law School, Columbia Business School, etc., are all part of the Columbia Corporation. Barnard is not part of the Columbia Corporation. Barnard is a separate corporate entity. Barnard has its own President, its own Board of Trustees and its own endowment. That’s why Columbia couldn’t force Barnard to merge, and thank God for that. Columbia and Barnard used to have an agreement but it expired long ago. Columbia and Barnard simply act as if the old agreement were still in force.
Anonymous
02/28/2022 05:23
Subject: Re:Mt Holyoke vs Tufts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stand-alone women's colleges like MHC, Smith and Wellesley (unlike Barnard or Bryn Mawr) are very distinctive in culture. A student really needs to be sure she wants that experience. I went to Wellesley and am grateful for the education I received there and for the wonderful friends I made, but if the Way-Back Machine landed in my front yard, I'd go back to HS and choose a coed college.
Just curious. How is Bryan Mawr not a stand-alone women’s college? I get your point about Barnard but Bryn Mawr?
True, Barnard is actually part of Columbia, but Bryn Mawr is literally next door to Haverford, the dining halls on both campuses are open to students from both schools, and students at either school can very easily take courses at the other school.
So, how does this make Bryan Mawr different from Wellesley? Less than 2 miles from Babson, today’s Wellesley women can take courses at Babson and vice versa. And students on the meal plan can use each other’s cafeterias. Close to 400 students cross register each year within the BOW Collaborative in Wellesley.
It's true that Wellesley is very close to Babson but the most popular is the cross-registration registration program with MIT, as well as a separate Undergraduate Research Opportunities program with MIT. There are also cross-registration with Brandeis and Olin. To some extent the MHC participation in the 5-college consortium serves the same.
Anonymous
02/28/2022 04:42
Subject: Re:Mt Holyoke vs Tufts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FWIW: At Mount Holyoke, all of the top recruiters came to campus.
I'm sure Wall Street and the big consulting firms are filled with MHC grads.
Sarcasm aside, Wellesley is the only Seven Sister to have a credible presence in the world of finance recruiting.
The stats of incoming classes at MCH is significantly below Wellesley or Tufts. It is what it is. It doesn't mean MHC isn't a good college, for it is a good college. But it is not going to open the same doors as going to Tufts or Wellesley would. Career fairs with a token representative isn't the same as a serious recruitment funnel. And that's fine. It's how the world works.
I don;t know why people get so defensive when schools are compared. As someone from from New England, Tufts and MHC are not even in the same conversation. Smith and MHC are a step below Wellesley and Tufts is a step above all 3.
What does this even mean? A step above or below at what?
Anonymous
02/27/2022 19:09
Subject: Mt Holyoke vs Tufts
Back in that late 80s, several people in my classes were Wellesley students. They also came to our parties sometimes.
Anonymous
02/27/2022 19:01
Subject: Re:Mt Holyoke vs Tufts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stand-alone women's colleges like MHC, Smith and Wellesley (unlike Barnard or Bryn Mawr) are very distinctive in culture. A student really needs to be sure she wants that experience. I went to Wellesley and am grateful for the education I received there and for the wonderful friends I made, but if the Way-Back Machine landed in my front yard, I'd go back to HS and choose a coed college.
Just curious. How is Bryan Mawr not a stand-alone women’s college? I get your point about Barnard but Bryn Mawr?
True, Barnard is actually part of Columbia, but Bryn Mawr is literally next door to Haverford, the dining halls on both campuses are open to students from both schools, and students at either school can very easily take courses at the other school.
So, how does this make Bryan Mawr different from Wellesley? Less than 2 miles from Babson, today’s Wellesley women can take courses at Babson and vice versa. And students on the meal plan can use each other’s cafeterias. Close to 400 students cross register each year within the BOW Collaborative in Wellesley.
It's true that Wellesley is very close to Babson but the most popular is the cross-registration registration program with MIT, as well as a separate Undergraduate Research Opportunities program with MIT. There are also cross-registration with Brandeis and Olin. To some extent the MHC participation in the 5-college consortium serves the same.
Anonymous
02/27/2022 18:46
Subject: Re:Mt Holyoke vs Tufts
Anonymous wrote:FWIW: At Mount Holyoke, all of the top recruiters came to campus.
Nonsense. The top recruiters don’t go to any of the top LACs and MHC isn’t amongst that group. It’s simply not worth their time given the small class size and the career interests of grads.
Anonymous
02/27/2022 17:17
Subject: Re:Mt Holyoke vs Tufts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:FWIW: At Mount Holyoke, all of the top recruiters came to campus.
I'm sure Wall Street and the big consulting firms are filled with MHC grads.
Sarcasm aside, Wellesley is the only Seven Sister to have a credible presence in the world of finance recruiting.
The stats of incoming classes at MCH is significantly below Wellesley or Tufts. It is what it is. It doesn't mean MHC isn't a good college, for it is a good college. But it is not going to open the same doors as going to Tufts or Wellesley would. Career fairs with a token representative isn't the same as a serious recruitment funnel. And that's fine. It's how the world works.
I don;t know why people get so defensive when schools are compared. As someone from from New England, Tufts and MHC are not even in the same conversation. Smith and MHC are a step below Wellesley and Tufts is a step above all 3.
Anonymous
02/27/2022 17:14
Subject: Re:Mt Holyoke vs Tufts
Anonymous wrote:FWIW: At Mount Holyoke, all of the top recruiters came to campus.
I'm sure Wall Street and the big consulting firms are filled with MHC grads.
Sarcasm aside, Wellesley is the only Seven Sister to have a credible presence in the world of finance recruiting.
The stats of incoming classes at MCH is significantly below Wellesley or Tufts. It is what it is. It doesn't mean MHC isn't a good college, for it is a good college. But it is not going to open the same doors as going to Tufts or Wellesley would. Career fairs with a token representative isn't the same as a serious recruitment funnel. And that's fine. It's how the world works.
Anonymous
02/27/2022 16:30
Subject: Re:Mt Holyoke vs Tufts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stand-alone women's colleges like MHC, Smith and Wellesley (unlike Barnard or Bryn Mawr) are very distinctive in culture. A student really needs to be sure she wants that experience. I went to Wellesley and am grateful for the education I received there and for the wonderful friends I made, but if the Way-Back Machine landed in my front yard, I'd go back to HS and choose a coed college.
Just curious. How is Bryan Mawr not a stand-alone women’s college? I get your point about Barnard but Bryn Mawr?
True, Barnard is actually part of Columbia, but Bryn Mawr is literally next door to Haverford, the dining halls on both campuses are open to students from both schools, and students at either school can very easily take courses at the other school.
So, how does this make Bryan Mawr different from Wellesley? Less than 2 miles from Babson, today’s Wellesley women can take courses at Babson and vice versa. And students on the meal plan can use each other’s cafeterias. Close to 400 students cross register each year within the BOW Collaborative in Wellesley.
Anonymous
02/27/2022 16:10
Subject: Re:Mt Holyoke vs Tufts
Anonymous wrote:FWIW: At Mount Holyoke, all of the top recruiters came to campus.
Exactly. Not to mention that MHC students often get invites to Smith recruiting events as well as to those of other 5 college members.
And frankly this only matters if getting recruited to a corporate position is your goal. There are lots of other paths that graduates pursue after college.
Anonymous
02/27/2022 15:16
Subject: Re:Mt Holyoke vs Tufts
FWIW: At Mount Holyoke, all of the top recruiters came to campus.
Anonymous
02/27/2022 15:00
Subject: Re:Mt Holyoke vs Tufts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stand-alone women's colleges like MHC, Smith and Wellesley (unlike Barnard or Bryn Mawr) are very distinctive in culture. A student really needs to be sure she wants that experience. I went to Wellesley and am grateful for the education I received there and for the wonderful friends I made, but if the Way-Back Machine landed in my front yard, I'd go back to HS and choose a coed college.
Just curious. How is Bryan Mawr not a stand-alone women’s college? I get your point about Barnard but Bryn Mawr?
True, Barnard is actually part of Columbia, but Bryn Mawr is literally next door to Haverford, the dining halls on both campuses are open to students from both schools, and students at either school can very easily take courses at the other school.
It's 2 miles away. A better example is Scripps College, which borders 3 co-ed schools.
Anonymous
02/27/2022 14:21
Subject: Re:Mt Holyoke vs Tufts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stand-alone women's colleges like MHC, Smith and Wellesley (unlike Barnard or Bryn Mawr) are very distinctive in culture. A student really needs to be sure she wants that experience. I went to Wellesley and am grateful for the education I received there and for the wonderful friends I made, but if the Way-Back Machine landed in my front yard, I'd go back to HS and choose a coed college.
Just curious. How is Bryan Mawr not a stand-alone women’s college? I get your point about Barnard but Bryn Mawr?
True, Barnard is actually part of Columbia, but Bryn Mawr is literally next door to Haverford, the dining halls on both campuses are open to students from both schools, and students at either school can very easily take courses at the other school.
Anonymous
02/27/2022 14:17
Subject: Mt Holyoke vs Tufts
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I fell like some of you have never visited or even know anything about either school. I am from Massachusetts and these schools are not even in the same stratosphere.
Tufts is not urban and Mount Holyoke is not in a depressed area. It is just very rural and you probably need to be an outdoorsy person to enjoy it.
Lastly, Wellesley is the only all woman;s college that moves the needle.
Smithie parent and I totally disagree. Wellesley is fantastic but they all have benefits. Smith is the only women’s college to award a BS in Engineering.
Like I said, all good but different vibes.
Most people have never heard of Smith to begin with and doesn't move the needle just like MH.
I'm a Wellesley alum and the Smith grads I know are pretty awesome, both professionally and as friends. Smith actually blows away the needle in journalism.