Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 14:42     Subject: $7/gallon gas is coming

Anonymous wrote:We should have moved to wind, solar and renewables years ago. Hopefully this will hasten the progress.


Wind and solar are both unreliable. But it sure feels great to virtue signal.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 14:38     Subject: Re:$7/gallon gas is coming

Anonymous wrote:The US produces only 12% of the annual carbon emissions on planet earth. Until countries like China and India step up, the green energy initative is dead.


You remind me of the people who think measures that reduce COVID cases are worthless because they don't completely eliminate COVID cases.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 14:37     Subject: $7/gallon gas is coming

We should have moved to wind, solar and renewables years ago. Hopefully this will hasten the progress.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 14:14     Subject: Re:$7/gallon gas is coming

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How else are we going to get flyover country to give up their smelly trucks?

They may think twice before rolling coal.

Cause for celebration- I would like to see $10/gas. I walk and bike nearly everywhere.


Have you ever been to the midwest, pp? Have you ever visited rural America?
Do you understand that it is not possible for everyone to bike and walk everywhere?
Do you understand that the farmers that grow your food and raise your crops need fuel for their farm equipment?

You are just clueless.


So we just give farmers gas subsidies, and make the vast majority of people, who are in urban areas, use mass transit or buy a Chevy Volt($33k)


What a simplistic clueless response.
Your "solution" does nothing for the millions of rural residents who need to drive 10+ miles to the grocery store or 30+ miles to a doctor's office or hospital.
I believe some of you urban dwellers have never stepped outside a city.


Good thing the vast majority of electric cars on the market easily get 200+ miles on a single charge. That should really help the Real Americans get to their doctor or the nearest grocery store. And even rural families have electricity!


Where exactly does that electricity come from to charge all the EV that everyone will eventually own?
Windmills? Solar farms?


Yes. Hydro, wind and solar. Things that don't require fossil fuel and any dependency on russia or the middle east. The right keeps chipring out energy independence. If you REALLY want it, it would be through renewables. With the battery technology, the time is now.


We are energy independent now. We produce more than we use and 51% of our imports are from Canada. The only thing we're dependent on Russia/Middle East for is stable global prices.


So we need to nationalize.


That would be way too logistically difficult. Upstream, midstream, and downstream are all done by completely different companies, mostly on private land, in the US. It would cost trillions upfront as per the takings clause, take a decade to enact, and require the creation of a new massive bureaucracy to oversee. Not only that it's a really extraordinarily bad idea. Between corruption and political pressures it has led to very bad outcomes everywhere it's been done.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 14:12     Subject: Re:$7/gallon gas is coming

The US produces only 12% of the annual carbon emissions on planet earth. Until countries like China and India step up, the green energy initative is dead.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 14:10     Subject: Re:$7/gallon gas is coming

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How else are we going to get flyover country to give up their smelly trucks?

They may think twice before rolling coal.

Cause for celebration- I would like to see $10/gas. I walk and bike nearly everywhere.


Have you ever been to the midwest, pp? Have you ever visited rural America?
Do you understand that it is not possible for everyone to bike and walk everywhere?
Do you understand that the farmers that grow your food and raise your crops need fuel for their farm equipment?

You are just clueless.


So we just give farmers gas subsidies, and make the vast majority of people, who are in urban areas, use mass transit or buy a Chevy Volt($33k)


What a simplistic clueless response.
Your "solution" does nothing for the millions of rural residents who need to drive 10+ miles to the grocery store or 30+ miles to a doctor's office or hospital.
I believe some of you urban dwellers have never stepped outside a city.


Good thing the vast majority of electric cars on the market easily get 200+ miles on a single charge. That should really help the Real Americans get to their doctor or the nearest grocery store. And even rural families have electricity!


Where exactly does that electricity come from to charge all the EV that everyone will eventually own?
Windmills? Solar farms?


Yes. Hydro, wind and solar. Things that don't require fossil fuel and any dependency on russia or the middle east. The right keeps chipring out energy independence. If you REALLY want it, it would be through renewables. With the battery technology, the time is now.


We are energy independent now. We produce more than we use and 51% of our imports are from Canada. The only thing we're dependent on Russia/Middle East for is stable global prices.


So we need to nationalize.


Because that worked so well for Venezuela.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 14:05     Subject: Re:$7/gallon gas is coming

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How else are we going to get flyover country to give up their smelly trucks?

They may think twice before rolling coal.

Cause for celebration- I would like to see $10/gas. I walk and bike nearly everywhere.


Have you ever been to the midwest, pp? Have you ever visited rural America?
Do you understand that it is not possible for everyone to bike and walk everywhere?
Do you understand that the farmers that grow your food and raise your crops need fuel for their farm equipment?

You are just clueless.


So we just give farmers gas subsidies, and make the vast majority of people, who are in urban areas, use mass transit or buy a Chevy Volt($33k)


What a simplistic clueless response.
Your "solution" does nothing for the millions of rural residents who need to drive 10+ miles to the grocery store or 30+ miles to a doctor's office or hospital.
I believe some of you urban dwellers have never stepped outside a city.


Good thing the vast majority of electric cars on the market easily get 200+ miles on a single charge. That should really help the Real Americans get to their doctor or the nearest grocery store. And even rural families have electricity!


Where exactly does that electricity come from to charge all the EV that everyone will eventually own?
Windmills? Solar farms?


Yes. Hydro, wind and solar. Things that don't require fossil fuel and any dependency on russia or the middle east. The right keeps chipring out energy independence. If you REALLY want it, it would be through renewables. With the battery technology, the time is now.


We are energy independent now. We produce more than we use and 51% of our imports are from Canada. The only thing we're dependent on Russia/Middle East for is stable global prices.


So we need to nationalize.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 14:02     Subject: $7/gallon gas is coming

We have a plan to address inflation: build back better.

You don’t like inflation, tell old man Manchin.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 13:51     Subject: Re:$7/gallon gas is coming

This is based on a WAR between two other countries.

And somehow it's Biden’s doing?

You Biden haters can't even keep your story straight.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 12:24     Subject: $7/gallon gas is coming

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Anonymous wrote:Buy a Tesla and problem solved.


Yeah, because your average household making $65k can afford a $50k car. A car that has all sorts of phantom braking problems recently too. Get out of your insane echo chamber.


The average car bought by Americans in 2021 cost $47K.

They can afford an electric vehicle, they just instead choose to buy large vehicles. Those large pickup trucks you see on the road often start at $50K and go A LOT higher once you add a few bells & whistles.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/new-car-prices-inflation-shortages-semiconductor-chips-2022-1%3Famp



Yes! Those huge gas guzzling pickup trucks aren’t cheap.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 12:23     Subject: $7/gallon gas is coming

Buy an electric car?
Take public transportation?
WFH?
Ride a bike?
Walk?

You have choices.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 12:10     Subject: $7/gallon gas is coming

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Anonymous wrote:How else are we going to get flyover country to give up their smelly trucks?

They may think twice before rolling coal.

Cause for celebration- I would like to see $10/gas. I walk and bike nearly everywhere.


Have you ever been to the midwest, pp? Have you ever visited rural America?
Do you understand that it is not possible for everyone to bike and walk everywhere?
Do you understand that the farmers that grow your food and raise your crops need fuel for their farm equipment?

You are just clueless.



They made dumb decisions about where to live. They chose to live in the middle of nowhere, rather than in a city with access to transit options or bike usage. Their making stupid choices about where they live and being dependent on gasoline in order to get to anywhere isn’t my problem. As for farmers, same question applies - why did they pick a farm out in the middle of nowhere? Dumb, dumb, dumb.


Think long and hard where all the food comes from....

Expensive gas means expensive food sooner or later. At least rural people can grow their own food



Wow. Are you really American? Do you actually even know anything at all about American agriculture? Seems to me you're living in some weird mythical la-la land where all rural people are farmers and food producers. Even in the most heavily agricultural midwestern states like Iowa less than 10% of people are farmers. In reality most rural Americans have the same kinds of jobs that people in the city do, and get most of their groceries from the store just like city people do, except they don't live in the city.


Most people in Iowa live in places like Des Moines or Cedar Rapids and don't necessarily drive more than most people in the DMV. Smaller towns in Iowa are going to be more walkable than Silver Spring or Takoma Park.

I find these threads weird. There's a deliberate, willful and contemptuous hatred by some progressive posters for large stretches of the country. So if you think some republican bully is being aggressive, ask yourself why.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 12:02     Subject: $7/gallon gas is coming

Anonymous wrote:All of these posts by the Takoma Park and Silver Spring mafia......lol, no wonder why no one can stand modern day asinine liberals.

God, it will be sooooooo enjoyable watching you get pounded at the poll because your current platform of inflation = good. The slaughter is going to be unreal.


More name calling from our resident Republican bully! Not one good faith argument to be found.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 11:52     Subject: $7/gallon gas is coming

All of these posts by the Takoma Park and Silver Spring mafia......lol, no wonder why no one can stand modern day asinine liberals.

God, it will be sooooooo enjoyable watching you get pounded at the poll because your current platform of inflation = good. The slaughter is going to be unreal.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2022 11:44     Subject: $7/gallon gas is coming

Anonymous wrote:Which is why we should have been moving to renewables when Al Gores suggested in 22 years ago. Maybe now is the time.


Seriously. I'm hoping my grandkids will have a good future, so the higher gas prices go now, the better. If we stop subsidizing gas, it'll go even higher even faster and it should.

Get rid of the huge rich farmer subsidy in the form of the farm bill, and we're in an even better position with regards to climate change.