Anonymous
Post 02/17/2022 18:29     Subject: VA Ds who support mask optional in schools

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Anonymous wrote:I still think this is a ridiculous, short sighted law. I get that we are all frustrated and tired of masking, but allowing opt outs during a local emergency is just a recipe for disaster.


I don't see any local emergency. Where is it?


I think it just passed today. I think it said - masks rules have to have an opt out, but governor can still declare an emergency and say we need masks for all.


we better hope that an actual health emergency doesn't happen with Youngkin as Governor, because we know full well that he will NEVER do an emergency mandate. NEVER


The good news is - there are vaccines and boosters and high quality one way masks if you're concerned. If we can't unmask now - we never can. What would change in the future? Not the advent of vaccines.


Declining cases would continue to decline, the weather will continue to improve and there will correspondingly be even less chance of you reinfecting your entire family with covid.

But I know. You can't wait a month because that would be "forever" so you have to demask right now!!! For the children!!

You failed the marshmallow test too, didn't you?


You lost that argument already when you claimed two weeks to slow the spread - you cry wolf and this is what happens. I agree if the Ds were more reasonable on unmasking - and if FCPS for example, updated their metrics since 2020 BEFORE vaccines- we might be in a better position. That's the whole thing. There is some middle ground being lost here - and that is the better approach. Unfortunately none of my middle of the road people are commenting here too much and leave me to the wolves, lol.


NP... Lost argument? NOPE. Try again. The problem is that we never did what we were supposed to in the first place, so the spread was never slowed down. Half the country didn't even bother to mask up in the first place, and half of those who did wear masks had their noses hanging out and every other stupid thing. And, only around a week or so in, y'all were marching on state Capitols armed with AR-15s demanding that you be allowed to go back to your crowded indoor happy hour at Hooters. The US never did any kind of meaningful lockdown, every attempt to try and reduce the spread was completely thwarted and undermined by idiots.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2022 08:04     Subject: VA Ds who support mask optional in schools

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Anonymous wrote:If you are historically a D in VA who supports mask optional in schools - are we even still Ds?? I’m disappointed that my local delegate and state senator voted against masks optional. I don’t even know if I am D anymore. Does it not matter because we don’t have to register by party? It’s like an identity crisis.

I pro choice and anti gun. So I feel like I have no political home anymore.


This seems like a strange thing to be a single-issue voter on.

If you are in favor of making masks optional instead of requiring a mask mandate, you philosophically have more in common with the freeloading anti-vax right wing assholes of the world, though. Mask use isn't about protecting yourself (which is the "optional" framework) it is about protecting others.

Personally, I think everyone who is clamoring for "mask optional" gets a surgeon who refuses to mask up if they ever need an option. I mean, as we know, it's hard to breathe in those things. So, obviously, you should tell the doctor to not wear a mask or she might not perform well.


I remember the Spring of 2020 when people actually thought that.

Get vaccinated and wear and fitted N95 and don't worry about what anyone else does.

As a CDC spokesman said on CNN yesterday, cloth masks are merely fashion. If they give our students a false sense of safety, they are actively doing harm.



Anonymous
Post 02/17/2022 07:55     Subject: VA Ds who support mask optional in schools

Anonymous wrote:If you are historically a D in VA who supports mask optional in schools - are we even still Ds?? I’m disappointed that my local delegate and state senator voted against masks optional. I don’t even know if I am D anymore. Does it not matter because we don’t have to register by party? It’s like an identity crisis.

I pro choice and anti gun. So I feel like I have no political home anymore.


This seems like a strange thing to be a single-issue voter on.

If you are in favor of making masks optional instead of requiring a mask mandate, you philosophically have more in common with the freeloading anti-vax right wing assholes of the world, though. Mask use isn't about protecting yourself (which is the "optional" framework) it is about protecting others.

Personally, I think everyone who is clamoring for "mask optional" gets a surgeon who refuses to mask up if they ever need an option. I mean, as we know, it's hard to breathe in those things. So, obviously, you should tell the doctor to not wear a mask or she might not perform well.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2022 07:54     Subject: Re:VA Ds who support mask optional in schools

Anonymous wrote:This is bread and circuses to win elections at the expense of your children's health.

The fact that removing masks in public schools will continue to let covid run unchecked throughout many poor communities who are already suffering from an information deficit about the virus thanks to scum like the dude who started this thread...

Well, that's a bonus for them.

Look at him, he's been refused to chanting slogans like the desperate little hamster he is. Stuck on his wheel and wailing.


You really need professional help.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2022 07:51     Subject: Re:VA Ds who support mask optional in schools

Anonymous wrote:This is bread and circuses to win elections at the expense of your children's health.

The fact that removing masks in public schools will continue to let covid run unchecked throughout many poor communities who are already suffering from an information deficit about the virus thanks to scum like the dude who started this thread...

Well, that's a bonus for them.

Look at him, he's been refused to chanting slogans like the desperate little hamster he is. Stuck on his wheel and wailing.


Cloth masks as worn in real life settings especially by children do not play a large role in preventing transmission of Covid. They do make some people feel safer than they actually are. We should give out 5 free N95s or KN95s per week to any child that wants them. The rest are going to wear their cloth masks under their noses anyway.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2022 07:23     Subject: Re:VA Ds who support mask optional in schools

This is bread and circuses to win elections at the expense of your children's health.

The fact that removing masks in public schools will continue to let covid run unchecked throughout many poor communities who are already suffering from an information deficit about the virus thanks to scum like the dude who started this thread...

Well, that's a bonus for them.

Look at him, he's been refused to chanting slogans like the desperate little hamster he is. Stuck on his wheel and wailing.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2022 07:00     Subject: VA Ds who support mask optional in schools

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Anonymous wrote:I still think this is a ridiculous, short sighted law. I get that we are all frustrated and tired of masking, but allowing opt outs during a local emergency is just a recipe for disaster.


I don't see any local emergency. Where is it?


I think it just passed today. I think it said - masks rules have to have an opt out, but governor can still declare an emergency and say we need masks for all.


we better hope that an actual health emergency doesn't happen with Youngkin as Governor, because we know full well that he will NEVER do an emergency mandate. NEVER


The good news is - there are vaccines and boosters and high quality one way masks if you're concerned. If we can't unmask now - we never can. What would change in the future? Not the advent of vaccines.


Declining cases would continue to decline, the weather will continue to improve and there will correspondingly be even less chance of you reinfecting your entire family with covid.

But I know. You can't wait a month because that would be "forever" so you have to demask right now!!! For the children!!

You failed the marshmallow test too, didn't you?


You lost that argument already when you claimed two weeks to slow the spread - you cry wolf and this is what happens. I agree if the Ds were more reasonable on unmasking - and if FCPS for example, updated their metrics since 2020 BEFORE vaccines- we might be in a better position. That's the whole thing. There is some middle ground being lost here - and that is the better approach. Unfortunately none of my middle of the road people are commenting here too much and leave me to the wolves, lol.


This.

Masks are no longer useful.

Hey mask fans:

SCIENCE IS REAL, PEOPLE!

Stop the hysteria.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2022 15:03     Subject: VA Ds who support mask optional in schools

Anonymous wrote:You know what this forum needs? Another masking thread.


I just wondered if anyone was feeling the same as me. I guess not - except for the journalist LOL. I guess that's fine. I can still be politically homeless.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2022 14:50     Subject: VA Ds who support mask optional in schools

You know what this forum needs? Another masking thread.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2022 13:39     Subject: VA Ds who support mask optional in schools

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Anonymous wrote:I still think this is a ridiculous, short sighted law. I get that we are all frustrated and tired of masking, but allowing opt outs during a local emergency is just a recipe for disaster.


I don't see any local emergency. Where is it?


I think it just passed today. I think it said - masks rules have to have an opt out, but governor can still declare an emergency and say we need masks for all.


we better hope that an actual health emergency doesn't happen with Youngkin as Governor, because we know full well that he will NEVER do an emergency mandate. NEVER


The good news is - there are vaccines and boosters and high quality one way masks if you're concerned. If we can't unmask now - we never can. What would change in the future? Not the advent of vaccines.


Declining cases would continue to decline, the weather will continue to improve and there will correspondingly be even less chance of you reinfecting your entire family with covid.

But I know. You can't wait a month because that would be "forever" so you have to demask right now!!! For the children!!

You failed the marshmallow test too, didn't you?


I heard this last year when they started in person hybrid. Just wait a little longer! No. We've waited long enough.


I do think this unmasking is following the same trajectory as return to in person school last spring.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2022 13:38     Subject: VA Ds who support mask optional in schools

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Anonymous wrote:What D wants to override school districts and take away their ability to manage this and future pandemics?


I guess the ones who think the school boards are incompetent and are doing it all wrong. I think it's really terrible that the VA legislature thinks (rightly so) that we need a LAW to ensure in person school - but that's the state of reality with these school boards - we need such a law not one, but two years in a row now. And I'm willing to call the Ds out on it. It's BAD that you're are mishandling education in a pandemic so badly that they need this law.


I fully believe that APS would have gone virtual after New Years and not reopened for weeks if it weren't for the law requiring in person school... and that's nuts.


I heard FCPS asked the state for a waiver to go virtual this winter and they were declined.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2022 13:37     Subject: VA Ds who support mask optional in schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I still think this is a ridiculous, short sighted law. I get that we are all frustrated and tired of masking, but allowing opt outs during a local emergency is just a recipe for disaster.


I don't see any local emergency. Where is it?


I think it just passed today. I think it said - masks rules have to have an opt out, but governor can still declare an emergency and say we need masks for all.


we better hope that an actual health emergency doesn't happen with Youngkin as Governor, because we know full well that he will NEVER do an emergency mandate. NEVER


The good news is - there are vaccines and boosters and high quality one way masks if you're concerned. If we can't unmask now - we never can. What would change in the future? Not the advent of vaccines.


Declining cases would continue to decline, the weather will continue to improve and there will correspondingly be even less chance of you reinfecting your entire family with covid.

But I know. You can't wait a month because that would be "forever" so you have to demask right now!!! For the children!!

You failed the marshmallow test too, didn't you?


I heard this last year when they started in person hybrid. Just wait a little longer! No. We've waited long enough.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2022 13:37     Subject: VA Ds who support mask optional in schools

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I still think this is a ridiculous, short sighted law. I get that we are all frustrated and tired of masking, but allowing opt outs during a local emergency is just a recipe for disaster.


I don't see any local emergency. Where is it?


I think it just passed today. I think it said - masks rules have to have an opt out, but governor can still declare an emergency and say we need masks for all.


we better hope that an actual health emergency doesn't happen with Youngkin as Governor, because we know full well that he will NEVER do an emergency mandate. NEVER


The good news is - there are vaccines and boosters and high quality one way masks if you're concerned. If we can't unmask now - we never can. What would change in the future? Not the advent of vaccines.


Declining cases would continue to decline, the weather will continue to improve and there will correspondingly be even less chance of you reinfecting your entire family with covid.

But I know. You can't wait a month because that would be "forever" so you have to demask right now!!! For the children!!

You failed the marshmallow test too, didn't you?


You lost that argument already when you claimed two weeks to slow the spread - you cry wolf and this is what happens. I agree if the Ds were more reasonable on unmasking - and if FCPS for example, updated their metrics since 2020 BEFORE vaccines- we might be in a better position. That's the whole thing. There is some middle ground being lost here - and that is the better approach. Unfortunately none of my middle of the road people are commenting here too much and leave me to the wolves, lol.