Anonymous
02/15/2022 15:14
Subject: Re:How would you rank these colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NO way is ND or UVA on the same tier as Cal. Cal is a major, internationally recognized research university. Notre Dame is an amazing regional school with fantastic community but its not the same, sorry. UVA is a solid regional/national university but not on same scale.
Every other school listed is niche or local, so it would depend on your personal preference.
Tulane is popular and has a fun factor for kids these days, so that might raise it above its academics, which are mediocre.
Exactly this.
Cal is very, very highly thought of, nation-wide, but especially on the east coast (where it is harder to get in). I speak from personal experience - Cal grad that gets amazing opportunities in DC. If you kid can get in, GO!
Notre Dame is a lot of things, but it is not a “regional” school. It has more geographical diversity than virtually any college or university in the United States. UC Berkeley is obviously a fantastic school, but the overwhelming majority of its students are from California. I think the fairest thing to say is that UC Berkeley is one of the best graduate schools in the country, but on the undergraduate level Notre Dame is probably better.
This is false. Also ND scores extremely low on the social mobility rankings.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 15:11
Subject: Re:How would you rank these colleges?
My kid is a business major.
Kid got accepted to ND REA and UVA EA.
Didn't apply to Berkeley.
1. tried NPC, tuition was all similar
2. the outcome is all similarly excellent.
So choosing ND without even a second thought just like the majority of people.
Kid got accepted to ND REA and UVA EA.
Didn't apply to Berkeley.
1. tried NPC, tuition was all similar
2. the outcome is all similarly excellent.
So choosing ND without even a second thought just like the majority of people.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 15:04
Subject: How would you rank these colleges?
Anonymous wrote:All else being equal, which it never is:
UC Berkeley
UVA
Notre Dame
Colgate
Boston College
UMD
Colby
Bates
Villanova
Tulane
Boston University
Fordham
Love how Bates was added in.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 15:02
Subject: Re:How would you rank these colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:10 people would have 10 different opinions, so as far as ranking goes, we should just go with the industry standard.
https://premium.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities
#19 Notre Dame
#22 UC Berkeley
#25 UVA
My personal opinion agrees with the standard.
Why would anyone go to those overcrowded schools over a solid T20 school if cost is the same.
but it's not "industry standard" to look at a magazine's rankings of colleges when deciding who to hire/interview. LOL. Ok, so Notre Dame is three places higher than Berkeley on a magazine's ranking list. Great. Are you under the impression that the hiring folks are like "well, we have these two candidates, Susie went to Notre Dame and Esmerelda went to Berkeley and Notre Dame is 3 slots higher than Berkeley, so Susie it is!!!" I promise you, it's not.
This has nothing to do with Notre Dame vs. Berkeley, it has to do with the fact that that's just not the way the professional world works.
Well, Notre Dame has been a T20 school for the past 10-20 years consistently.''
Again, Berkeley cheated and got caught for this non-important non-standard ranking LOL.
Must be very important for them. This was only 2019 LOL
Wow these Berkeley people have no shame.
Professional world doesn't think any differently
Enough of the imaginations.
Ok. It is okay that you think US News rankings are unassailable. Can you provide one (1) piece of evidence that any employer when hiring would chose one applicant over another applicant simply because their institution ranked three slots higher in US News?
Anonymous
02/15/2022 14:51
Subject: Re:How would you rank these colleges?
For real? I think the Catholic Church is a criminal enterprise, but I would never ding a candidate based on a degree from a Catholic college or university. As the pp said, it's always about ranking candidates not ranking schools (and not descriminating on the basis of religion).
I wouldn't necessarily ding other lower ranked Catholic schools, but a student who attends ND has other options. They're making a very deliberate choice.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 14:47
Subject: Re:How would you rank these colleges?
Or Amy Coney Barrett. Ick.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Depends little bit on the major, but in general;
Notre Dame (T20 school with 6th or 7th biggest endowment)
Berkeley (go here if engineering or CS)
UVA (go here if Virginian and money matters)
Boston College
Boston Univeristy
Tulane
Colby
UMCP
Vilanova
Colgate
Fordham
If accepted to both
Notre Dame vs UVA
79% choose Notre Dame. 95% would probably choose Notre Dame if cost is same.
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Notre+Dame&with=University+of+Virginia#box2
Notre Dame vs Berkeley
60% choose Notre Daem. proabaly 80% if cost is same, 20% might be CS/engineering for Berkeley.
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Notre+Dame&with=University+of+California%2C+Berkeley
UVA is clearly a step down from Notre Dame.
Notre Dame is ranked higher and studetns clearly favor it over Berkeley or UVA.
? That really wasn't the question though. Which grad are firms more likely to hire. I'd say in this area Uva. maybe, depends on the major of course.
I have strong views on how the Catholic church treats women, especially in view of its politics on women's reproductive health. I wouldn't trust any ND grad to view women as equal to men. Big pass.
Lizzy Seeberg is the name that comes to mind when I think of ND. Hard pass
Anonymous
02/15/2022 14:47
Subject: Re:How would you rank these colleges?
This already assumes that the student has applied to ND. If someone rejects the school for its politics, they would never even apply.
I have strong views on how the Catholic church treats women, especially in view of its politics on women's reproductive health. I wouldn't trust any ND grad to view women as equal to men. Big pass.
ok there's always a minority group
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Notre+Dame&with=University+of+Virginia
Anonymous
02/15/2022 14:47
Subject: Re:How would you rank these colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Depends little bit on the major, but in general;
Notre Dame (T20 school with 6th or 7th biggest endowment)
Berkeley (go here if engineering or CS)
UVA (go here if Virginian and money matters)
Boston College
Boston Univeristy
Tulane
Colby
UMCP
Vilanova
Colgate
Fordham
If accepted to both
Notre Dame vs UVA
79% choose Notre Dame. 95% would probably choose Notre Dame if cost is same.
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Notre+Dame&with=University+of+Virginia#box2
Notre Dame vs Berkeley
60% choose Notre Daem. proabaly 80% if cost is same, 20% might be CS/engineering for Berkeley.
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Notre+Dame&with=University+of+California%2C+Berkeley
UVA is clearly a step down from Notre Dame.
Notre Dame is ranked higher and studetns clearly favor it over Berkeley or UVA.
? That really wasn't the question though. Which grad are firms more likely to hire. I'd say in this area Uva. maybe, depends on the major of course.
I have strong views on how the Catholic church treats women, especially in view of its politics on women's reproductive health. I wouldn't trust any ND grad to view women as equal to men. Big pass.
For real? I think the Catholic Church is a criminal enterprise, but I would never ding a candidate based on a degree from a Catholic college or university. As the pp said, it's always about ranking candidates not ranking schools (and not descriminating on the basis of religion).
But the applicant CHOOSE to attend the Catholic university, just as Mormons pick BYU. It’s about judgment and priorities
Anonymous
02/15/2022 14:44
Subject: Re:How would you rank these colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Depends little bit on the major, but in general;
Notre Dame (T20 school with 6th or 7th biggest endowment)
Berkeley (go here if engineering or CS)
UVA (go here if Virginian and money matters)
Boston College
Boston Univeristy
Tulane
Colby
UMCP
Vilanova
Colgate
Fordham
If accepted to both
Notre Dame vs UVA
79% choose Notre Dame. 95% would probably choose Notre Dame if cost is same.
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Notre+Dame&with=University+of+Virginia#box2
Notre Dame vs Berkeley
60% choose Notre Daem. proabaly 80% if cost is same, 20% might be CS/engineering for Berkeley.
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Notre+Dame&with=University+of+California%2C+Berkeley
UVA is clearly a step down from Notre Dame.
Notre Dame is ranked higher and studetns clearly favor it over Berkeley or UVA.
? That really wasn't the question though. Which grad are firms more likely to hire. I'd say in this area Uva. maybe, depends on the major of course.
I have strong views on how the Catholic church treats women, especially in view of its politics on women's reproductive health. I wouldn't trust any ND grad to view women as equal to men. Big pass.
For real? I think the Catholic Church is a criminal enterprise, but I would never ding a candidate based on a degree from a Catholic college or university. As the pp said, it's always about ranking candidates not ranking schools (and not descriminating on the basis of religion).
Anonymous
02/15/2022 14:44
Subject: How would you rank these colleges?
I agree with the posters who thoink it would be pointless to rank them. if you are going to, why not do it by Test scores?
School 75% SAT
ND 1550
Colby 1510
Colgate 1510
BU 1500
UVA 1500
BC 1490
Berkley 1490
Tulane 1490
UMD 1460
Villanova 1460
Fordham 1430
School 75% SAT
ND 1550
Colby 1510
Colgate 1510
BU 1500
UVA 1500
BC 1490
Berkley 1490
Tulane 1490
UMD 1460
Villanova 1460
Fordham 1430
Anonymous
02/15/2022 14:42
Subject: Re:How would you rank these colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Depends little bit on the major, but in general;
Notre Dame (T20 school with 6th or 7th biggest endowment)
Berkeley (go here if engineering or CS)
UVA (go here if Virginian and money matters)
Boston College
Boston Univeristy
Tulane
Colby
UMCP
Vilanova
Colgate
Fordham
If accepted to both
Notre Dame vs UVA
79% choose Notre Dame. 95% would probably choose Notre Dame if cost is same.
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Notre+Dame&with=University+of+Virginia#box2
Notre Dame vs Berkeley
60% choose Notre Daem. proabaly 80% if cost is same, 20% might be CS/engineering for Berkeley.
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Notre+Dame&with=University+of+California%2C+Berkeley
UVA is clearly a step down from Notre Dame.
Notre Dame is ranked higher and studetns clearly favor it over Berkeley or UVA.
? That really wasn't the question though. Which grad are firms more likely to hire. I'd say in this area Uva. maybe, depends on the major of course.
I have strong views on how the Catholic church treats women, especially in view of its politics on women's reproductive health. I wouldn't trust any ND grad to view women as equal to men. Big pass.
Lizzy Seeberg is the name that comes to mind when I think of ND. Hard pass
Anonymous
02/15/2022 14:42
Subject: How would you rank these colleges?
Anonymous wrote:For CS only
1) Berkeley, UMD
2) Others in the list.
For EE,
1) Berkeley
2) UMD
3) others
Anonymous
02/15/2022 14:39
Subject: Re:How would you rank these colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Depends little bit on the major, but in general;
Notre Dame (T20 school with 6th or 7th biggest endowment)
Berkeley (go here if engineering or CS)
UVA (go here if Virginian and money matters)
Boston College
Boston Univeristy
Tulane
Colby
UMCP
Vilanova
Colgate
Fordham
If accepted to both
Notre Dame vs UVA
79% choose Notre Dame. 95% would probably choose Notre Dame if cost is same.
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Notre+Dame&with=University+of+Virginia#box2
Notre Dame vs Berkeley
60% choose Notre Daem. proabaly 80% if cost is same, 20% might be CS/engineering for Berkeley.
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Notre+Dame&with=University+of+California%2C+Berkeley
UVA is clearly a step down from Notre Dame.
Notre Dame is ranked higher and studetns clearly favor it over Berkeley or UVA.
? That really wasn't the question though. Which grad are firms more likely to hire. I'd say in this area Uva. maybe, depends on the major of course.
I have strong views on how the Catholic church treats women, especially in view of its politics on women's reproductive health. I wouldn't trust any ND grad to view women as equal to men. Big pass.
ok there's always a minority group
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Notre+Dame&with=University+of+Virginia
Anonymous
02/15/2022 14:37
Subject: How would you rank these colleges?
Anonymous wrote:I'm curious to see how people (especially you HR folks and recruiters) would personally rank these schools if you had a recent graduate apply for an entry level job.
Colby College, Notre Dame, UC Berkeley, Boston College, Colgate, Fordham, Boston University, UVA, Villanova, Tulane, and UMD.
I wouldn't rank the schools. I would rank the candidates.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 14:35
Subject: Re:How would you rank these colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Depends little bit on the major, but in general;
Notre Dame (T20 school with 6th or 7th biggest endowment)
Berkeley (go here if engineering or CS)
UVA (go here if Virginian and money matters)
Boston College
Boston Univeristy
Tulane
Colby
UMCP
Vilanova
Colgate
Fordham
If accepted to both
Notre Dame vs UVA
79% choose Notre Dame. 95% would probably choose Notre Dame if cost is same.
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Notre+Dame&with=University+of+Virginia#box2
Notre Dame vs Berkeley
60% choose Notre Daem. proabaly 80% if cost is same, 20% might be CS/engineering for Berkeley.
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Notre+Dame&with=University+of+California%2C+Berkeley
UVA is clearly a step down from Notre Dame.
Notre Dame is ranked higher and studetns clearly favor it over Berkeley or UVA.
? That really wasn't the question though. Which grad are firms more likely to hire. I'd say in this area Uva. maybe, depends on the major of course.
Do you really think UVA grads have better chance to get hired than ND??
That is an weired imagination.
Here's a source for the employment by the best finance firms in the world.
https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-schools