Anonymous
Post 02/14/2022 21:21     Subject: WOOHOO SB 739 has passed the house- it is on its way to the Governor-

Anonymous
Post 02/14/2022 21:18     Subject: WOOHOO SB 739 has passed the house- it is on its way to the Governor-

Anonymous wrote:The people who say things like “forced maskers” are so toxic. They’re tearing apart our school communities with their political agendas. FCPS has a FB post today for Valentine’s Day and there are posters who insist on whining or hoorayibg about masks there. They can’t avoid the post or say something nice about their school or teacher? No, they have to continue their vendetta against public schools. It’s so damaging and I wish they would keep their agendas to approve venues. You can disagree about masks without spreading negative energy anytime the schools are brought up. It shows it’s not about masks but about dismantling public schools. It’s so concerning what these people are modeling for their kids.


100% agree. These people are just hating on public schools ALL the time, no matter what. It’s relentless. Our schools are among the best in the nation. It makes me sick. It’s relentless, never ending negativity. And it’s clear that these monsters have never spent a day in public school. And most of them are astroturfers who don’t even have kids in public school. It makes me ill.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2022 21:18     Subject: Re:WOOHOO SB 739 has passed the house- it is on its way to the Governor-

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The ACLU lawsuit is ridiculous. The ADA entitles a qualified individual with a disability to an effective accommodation- not the accommodation of their choice. Prior to filing suit, an individual with a disability has to go through an interactive process to get such an accommodation. In this lawsuit, the plaintiffs attempt to argue that somehow other students not wearing a cloth mask (which is not a proven effective 'accommodation' in any event) means they are not being accommodated? It should get tossed out of court immediately. Now- if the law said no student was allowed to wear a mask, preventing immuno compromised students from wearing a n95 mask themselves, that might get somewhere.


Agree completely. The lawsuit is preposterous. Cloth masks provide very little benefit and one way masking with a high-quality mask is a very effective accommodation. The ACLU jumped the shark with this lunacy, especially when many disabled kids are suffering from mask mandates.


The lawsuit is absolutely not preposterous. A federal judge already ruled in favor of kids with disabilities in Texas in a similar case.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/11/10/texas-schools-mask-mandate-ban-overturned/amp/


An the 5th circuit found the judges ruling so off base that it granted a stay. https://amp.statesman.com/amp/8835135002


Similar laws were killed in SC and Iowa on the ACLU argument, but at least in Iowa it was pre-elementary school vaccines.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2022 20:57     Subject: Re:WOOHOO SB 739 has passed the house- it is on its way to the Governor-

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The ACLU lawsuit is ridiculous. The ADA entitles a qualified individual with a disability to an effective accommodation- not the accommodation of their choice. Prior to filing suit, an individual with a disability has to go through an interactive process to get such an accommodation. In this lawsuit, the plaintiffs attempt to argue that somehow other students not wearing a cloth mask (which is not a proven effective 'accommodation' in any event) means they are not being accommodated? It should get tossed out of court immediately. Now- if the law said no student was allowed to wear a mask, preventing immuno compromised students from wearing a n95 mask themselves, that might get somewhere.


Agree completely. The lawsuit is preposterous. Cloth masks provide very little benefit and one way masking with a high-quality mask is a very effective accommodation. The ACLU jumped the shark with this lunacy, especially when many disabled kids are suffering from mask mandates.


The lawsuit is absolutely not preposterous. A federal judge already ruled in favor of kids with disabilities in Texas in a similar case.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/11/10/texas-schools-mask-mandate-ban-overturned/amp/


An the 5th circuit found the judges ruling so off base that it granted a stay. https://amp.statesman.com/amp/8835135002
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2022 20:46     Subject: WOOHOO SB 739 has passed the house- it is on its way to the Governor-

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For those of us following the science, the Legislature and the Governor have little to do with this. Instead, we are approaching a time when masks are not as necessary.


My family and I are proud followers of the science. That's why we haven't worn masks since last summer. My kids have always had less risk with COVID than the flu, and hubs and I are vaccinated. We actually trust our vaccines, unlike the nuts I see at Whole Foods who are triple vaccinated wearing N95s.


😂😂😂😂😂
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2022 20:45     Subject: Re:WOOHOO SB 739 has passed the house- it is on its way to the Governor-

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The ACLU lawsuit is ridiculous. The ADA entitles a qualified individual with a disability to an effective accommodation- not the accommodation of their choice. Prior to filing suit, an individual with a disability has to go through an interactive process to get such an accommodation. In this lawsuit, the plaintiffs attempt to argue that somehow other students not wearing a cloth mask (which is not a proven effective 'accommodation' in any event) means they are not being accommodated? It should get tossed out of court immediately. Now- if the law said no student was allowed to wear a mask, preventing immuno compromised students from wearing a n95 mask themselves, that might get somewhere.


Agree completely. The lawsuit is preposterous. Cloth masks provide very little benefit and one way masking with a high-quality mask is a very effective accommodation. The ACLU jumped the shark with this lunacy, especially when many disabled kids are suffering from mask mandates.


The lawsuit is absolutely not preposterous. A federal judge already ruled in favor of kids with disabilities in Texas in a similar case.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/11/10/texas-schools-mask-mandate-ban-overturned/amp/


The ADA / IDEA cannot have the government require fellow children proactively do something to provide an accommodation - that is the opposite of civil liberties - the complete opposite.


Ha! My children are forever required to deal with disruptions, outbursts, and numerous physical injuries as well as a destroyed project due to the “least restrictive environment” of another child.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2022 20:32     Subject: Re:WOOHOO SB 739 has passed the house- it is on its way to the Governor-

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The ACLU lawsuit is ridiculous. The ADA entitles a qualified individual with a disability to an effective accommodation- not the accommodation of their choice. Prior to filing suit, an individual with a disability has to go through an interactive process to get such an accommodation. In this lawsuit, the plaintiffs attempt to argue that somehow other students not wearing a cloth mask (which is not a proven effective 'accommodation' in any event) means they are not being accommodated? It should get tossed out of court immediately. Now- if the law said no student was allowed to wear a mask, preventing immuno compromised students from wearing a n95 mask themselves, that might get somewhere.


Agree completely. The lawsuit is preposterous. Cloth masks provide very little benefit and one way masking with a high-quality mask is a very effective accommodation. The ACLU jumped the shark with this lunacy, especially when many disabled kids are suffering from mask mandates.


The lawsuit is absolutely not preposterous. A federal judge already ruled in favor of kids with disabilities in Texas in a similar case.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/11/10/texas-schools-mask-mandate-ban-overturned/amp/


The ADA / IDEA cannot have the government require fellow children proactively do something to provide an accommodation - that is the opposite of civil liberties - the complete opposite.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2022 20:25     Subject: Re:WOOHOO SB 739 has passed the house- it is on its way to the Governor-

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The ACLU lawsuit is ridiculous. The ADA entitles a qualified individual with a disability to an effective accommodation- not the accommodation of their choice. Prior to filing suit, an individual with a disability has to go through an interactive process to get such an accommodation. In this lawsuit, the plaintiffs attempt to argue that somehow other students not wearing a cloth mask (which is not a proven effective 'accommodation' in any event) means they are not being accommodated? It should get tossed out of court immediately. Now- if the law said no student was allowed to wear a mask, preventing immuno compromised students from wearing a n95 mask themselves, that might get somewhere.


Agree completely. The lawsuit is preposterous. Cloth masks provide very little benefit and one way masking with a high-quality mask is a very effective accommodation. The ACLU jumped the shark with this lunacy, especially when many disabled kids are suffering from mask mandates.


The lawsuit is absolutely not preposterous. A federal judge already ruled in favor of kids with disabilities in Texas in a similar case.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/11/10/texas-schools-mask-mandate-ban-overturned/amp/
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2022 19:45     Subject: Re:WOOHOO SB 739 has passed the house- it is on its way to the Governor-

Anonymous wrote:ha- I'm the OP of this thread. I'm no operative if any sort. Just a frustrated FCC mom- who social distanced, masked and vaxxed with the best of them. I closely closely follow science, and numbers etc and have the ability to change my mind. What I've seen over the last 7 months has convinced me that 'science' has very little to do with this- this is about proving our liberalism. When FCCPS refused to follow the CDC, and insisted on quarantining elementary school children for 14 days with no possibility of testing out- keeping needy children out of school- I lost faith in them. FCC has an incredibly high vaccination rate. The community obsessively masks. We have had 4 people total hospitalized for COVID in the last 90 days. Our case count has been astronomical for a long time. So where do I come down- let it go. The risk to a vaccinated person is so so minor. Why are we doing this to our kids? For the first 1.5 years of the pandemic I was willing to employ any mitigation measure that might make a difference. At this point, given the vaccines, any mitigation measure should be run through a solid cost benefit analysis. There is very little evidence that a universal mask mandate makes ANY difference for case transmission- and case transmission shouldn't really be our benchmark in any event. I'm done. My kids need normalcy and they need it now.


Well said and thank you for being the voice of reason in the face of FCPS madness.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2022 19:38     Subject: Re:WOOHOO SB 739 has passed the house- it is on its way to the Governor-

ha- I'm the OP of this thread. I'm no operative if any sort. Just a frustrated FCC mom- who social distanced, masked and vaxxed with the best of them. I closely closely follow science, and numbers etc and have the ability to change my mind. What I've seen over the last 7 months has convinced me that 'science' has very little to do with this- this is about proving our liberalism. When FCCPS refused to follow the CDC, and insisted on quarantining elementary school children for 14 days with no possibility of testing out- keeping needy children out of school- I lost faith in them. FCC has an incredibly high vaccination rate. The community obsessively masks. We have had 4 people total hospitalized for COVID in the last 90 days. Our case count has been astronomical for a long time. So where do I come down- let it go. The risk to a vaccinated person is so so minor. Why are we doing this to our kids? For the first 1.5 years of the pandemic I was willing to employ any mitigation measure that might make a difference. At this point, given the vaccines, any mitigation measure should be run through a solid cost benefit analysis. There is very little evidence that a universal mask mandate makes ANY difference for case transmission- and case transmission shouldn't really be our benchmark in any event. I'm done. My kids need normalcy and they need it now.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2022 19:35     Subject: WOOHOO SB 739 has passed the house- it is on its way to the Governor-

Anonymous wrote:The people who say things like “forced maskers” are so toxic. They’re tearing apart our school communities with their political agendas. FCPS has a FB post today for Valentine’s Day and there are posters who insist on whining or hoorayibg about masks there. They can’t avoid the post or say something nice about their school or teacher? No, they have to continue their vendetta against public schools. It’s so damaging and I wish they would keep their agendas to approve venues. You can disagree about masks without spreading negative energy anytime the schools are brought up. It shows it’s not about masks but about dismantling public schools. It’s so concerning what these people are modeling for their kids.


Maybe you shouldn't accuse people who want their kids out of masks after 2 years as wanting to destroy public schools (especially the day after the Super Bowl was packed with 70K much higher risk adults, 95% not masked even though there's mask mandate).

It is forced masking. The current situation is our kids don't have a choice, unlike everywhere else. Now they will.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2022 19:34     Subject: Re:WOOHOO SB 739 has passed the house- it is on its way to the Governor-

I haven't posted on this topic before, Democrat, did not vote for Youngkin. BUT we are all vaxed and I am SO excited for masks to go away! I find them really uncomfortable at work and can't imagine my kids having to wear them all day. They don't complain at all and don't seem to mind, but I want them to have more natural social interactions with friends, being able to see smiling and facial expressions.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2022 19:20     Subject: WOOHOO SB 739 has passed the house- it is on its way to the Governor-

The people who say things like “forced maskers” are so toxic. They’re tearing apart our school communities with their political agendas. FCPS has a FB post today for Valentine’s Day and there are posters who insist on whining or hoorayibg about masks there. They can’t avoid the post or say something nice about their school or teacher? No, they have to continue their vendetta against public schools. It’s so damaging and I wish they would keep their agendas to approve venues. You can disagree about masks without spreading negative energy anytime the schools are brought up. It shows it’s not about masks but about dismantling public schools. It’s so concerning what these people are modeling for their kids.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2022 19:15     Subject: Re:WOOHOO SB 739 has passed the house- it is on its way to the Governor-

Anonymous wrote:DC is still requiring masks in schools, child care, libraries, etc. they are removing the mandate for businesses.


That's called "not follow the science" by singling out kids, who are at the lowest risk. It's called "following the teachers union".
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2022 19:12     Subject: Re:WOOHOO SB 739 has passed the house- it is on its way to the Governor-

DC is still requiring masks in schools, child care, libraries, etc. they are removing the mandate for businesses.