Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why any man would marry a liberal or left wing woman. Most of them hate men and want to destroy the nuclear family. They act like they are gods gift to the world and are somehow superior simply because they’re a woman. Most of them are very foul and very masculine. Conservative women tend to be more lady like and feminine. They tend to enjoy simple a more simple life or raising kids and being a wife without feeling like their some kind of slave or victim for being in a “ traditional” role.

^^^ like this.

Anonymous wrote:Ni marriage can work unless there is enough love, respect and care on both sides, how you divide childcare, household work or money generating work is just logistical fine print.

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Ni marriage can work unless there is enough love, respect and care on both sides, how you divide childcare, household work or money generating work is just logistical fine print.

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Anonymous wrote:Say what you want about her, but a lot of things she says are true, but people don't want to admit it.

A broken clock is right twice a day. Mussolini was right about some things too. But there is nothing good that Dr. Laura offers that can’t be obtained from a source that doesn’t also have a bunch of terrible and even damaging advice.

Exactly. Look, I’m all for pleasing my husband, and I love doing it often. But the stupidity of thinking that the only way to have a great sex life is to give up your career, or that you need to give up having a voice in the relationship to make someone happy, is just beyond. Books like this teach cult thinking — the idea that sacrificing parts of your self is going to make you happy can only be sold to the very insecure and desperate.

I know you’re smarter than this, ladies.

It is very obvious that you didn’t read the book

I don’t need a book to make my husband happy. Sorry if you do.

It's a wonder how humans survived this far without books on how to live, be married, be parents.

And why are all the "self help" books on marriage geared towards women? Where are the books for men to read about how to be a better husband, father? Even if they exist, it's certainly not as popular or as plentiful as those books geared towards women. A lot of men get their training for sex from porn. Where do they get any dad/husband training from?

wel... tbh there have been books advising human beings on how to live for a very long time.. supposedly even Abraham was given a book that was lost to time, Confucius left a book.. Moses, Aesop...as a Muslim I think human beings are motivated to stretch themselves through stories,, fables, parables and those were for both men and women. I think having boys read Edith Wharton, Jane Austen, even Anne of green gables, Harriet the spy, Laura ingalls wilder (I know you have to explore the race stuff, she actually has conversations about it not a simple portrayal the dr who saves their life at plum creek is Black..) even ivy and bean will grow up having better relationships with women. to your point.. not this book but books in general are how human beings have differentiated themselves from our fellow primates.

I don’t understand why any man would marry a liberal or left wing woman. Most of them hate men and want to destroy the nuclear family. They act like they are gods gift to the world and are somehow superior simply because they’re a woman. Most of them are very foul and very masculine. Conservative women tend to be more lady like and feminine. They tend to enjoy simple a more simple life or raising kids and being a wife without feeling like their some kind of slave or victim for being in a “ traditional” role.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly many posts in this section of the forum are stemming from ‘my husband doesn’t do x or y for me’ or ‘I cannot stand this or that about my husband’. At least for me, this book helped to be a bit less self centered in my marriage and more grateful

But then they can’t play the victim card. Hard for women on here to take accountability that it might just be them and not always their husband.

There are PLENTY of people who give advice that is grounded in the fact that you can only change yourself. And any are from people who don’t offer advice like “be soft and sweet,” and “be a SAHM if you can.” Bonus: they have also never said the n word, gone on anti-Islamic tirades, think that gay couples should be able to adopt, and believe in the concept of marital rape.

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Anonymous wrote:Say what you want about her, but a lot of things she says are true, but people don't want to admit it.

Everybody has some good points but yes liberals won't acknowledge anything good in conservative values and vice versa. No surprise in that.

Didn't she have a 9 year affair with a married man that broke his marriage? Is this a "good conservative value"? Same with the gubernatorial candidate from OR who is married and a swinger.

Because liberals hold such moral high ground? You forget most of the predators in Hollywood and politicians are liberals.

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Anonymous wrote:Most women hate men on here so you won’t find them liking the advice.

I think most of those books in general are silly, but I have a very traditional marriage. I enjoy taking care of my husband pleasing and that includes cooking for him, sex usually whenever he wants, and alone time for him and us as a couple. In return he is a provider for our family. This doesn’t mean he is lazy - he does a lot of cooking, cleaning, and helping raise our kids, but I do think we have more defined roles and it works for us. He supports and respects me and I do the same for him. You would be surprised how easy supportive and loving a husband is when he has a wife who appreciates and respects him.

omg.. this made me barf. But, ok, you do you.

-signed happily married for 20 yrs woman

To each their own but it works for us. Some women actually enjoy being caretakers for their family. Sounds like you’re not one of them. I’m glad you felt like you needed to respond like a 5 year old. It shows your level of maturity.

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Anonymous wrote:Say what you want about her, but a lot of things she says are true, but people don't want to admit it.

A broken clock is right twice a day. Mussolini was right about some things too. But there is nothing good that Dr. Laura offers that can’t be obtained from a source that doesn’t also have a bunch of terrible and even damaging advice.

Please give us just one example of her terrible or "even damaging" advice. Not looking for "a bunch." Just one factual item will do.

LMGTFY

Go on Amazon, lots of one star reviews and excerpts for your browsing pleasure.

Well, Bible, Torah and Quran are three most outdated yet most read books with some great material.

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Anonymous wrote:Say what you want about her, but a lot of things she says are true, but people don't want to admit it.

A broken clock is right twice a day. Mussolini was right about some things too. But there is nothing good that Dr. Laura offers that can’t be obtained from a source that doesn’t also have a bunch of terrible and even damaging advice.

Exactly. Look, I’m all for pleasing my husband, and I love doing it often. But the stupidity of thinking that the only way to have a great sex life is to give up your career, or that you need to give up having a voice in the relationship to make someone happy, is just beyond. Books like this teach cult thinking — the idea that sacrificing parts of your self is going to make you happy can only be sold to the very insecure and desperate.

I know you’re smarter than this, ladies.

It is very obvious that you didn’t read the book

I don’t need a book to make my husband happy. Sorry if you do.

It's a wonder how humans survived this far without books on how to live, be married, be parents.

And why are all the "self help" books on marriage geared towards women? Where are the books for men to read about how to be a better husband, father? Even if they exist, it's certainly not as popular or as plentiful as those books geared towards women. A lot of men get their training for sex from porn. Where do they get any dad/husband training from?

Statistically speaking, women are more likely to be the spouse filing for a divorce or to be unhappy about marriage

Right.. women are unhappy in marriages, so you would think men would be more willing to read self help books to save the marriage. But, that's not what we are seeing.

Once again.. women are expected to bear the brunt. We are the primary caregivers of children and elderly parents; we have to take care of the home; we have to fix marriages and relationships --- all of this while working FT.

My response to that is F*OFF.

-signed happily married woman whose DH just went downstairs to prepare our lunch since we both wfh

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Anonymous wrote:Say what you want about her, but a lot of things she says are true, but people don't want to admit it.

Everybody has some good points but yes liberals won't acknowledge anything good in conservative values and vice versa. No surprise in that.

Yup, as an immigrant this is what I find very hard to understand in US. Everything is liberals vs conservatives or dems vs reps. All is black or white, no nuances. Both sides can have something good to bring at the table

This is a recent phenomenon. It wasn't always like this.

Anonymous wrote:Honestly many posts in this section of the forum are stemming from ‘my husband doesn’t do x or y for me’ or ‘I cannot stand this or that about my husband’. At least for me, this book helped to be a bit less self centered in my marriage and more grateful

But then they can’t play the victim card. Hard for women on here to take accountability that it might just be them and not always their husband.

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Anonymous wrote:Say what you want about her, but a lot of things she says are true, but people don't want to admit it.

Everybody has some good points but yes liberals won't acknowledge anything good in conservative values and vice versa. No surprise in that.

Didn't she have a 9 year affair with a married man that broke his marriage? Is this a "good conservative value"? Same with the gubernatorial candidate from OR who is married and a swinger.

Because liberals hold such moral high ground? You forget most of the predators in Hollywood and politicians are liberals.

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Anonymous wrote:Say what you want about her, but a lot of things she says are true, but people don't want to admit it.

A broken clock is right twice a day. Mussolini was right about some things too. But there is nothing good that Dr. Laura offers that can’t be obtained from a source that doesn’t also have a bunch of terrible and even damaging advice.

Exactly. Look, I’m all for pleasing my husband, and I love doing it often. But the stupidity of thinking that the only way to have a great sex life is to give up your career, or that you need to give up having a voice in the relationship to make someone happy, is just beyond. Books like this teach cult thinking — the idea that sacrificing parts of your self is going to make you happy can only be sold to the very insecure and desperate.

I know you’re smarter than this, ladies.

It is very obvious that you didn’t read the book

I don’t need a book to make my husband happy. Sorry if you do.

But you need to read something before writing the book review or your opinion about the content of the book

No, if a book is widely excerpted in the media then it’s enough to get a flavor to know what it’s about. I don’t need to join a cult to know what’s wrong with it.

“But how do you know if you don’t try?” No thanks!

I think you would sell more copies if you tried a site with a lot of women who approach marriage like it’s their job.

Holy crap. You are exactly what’s wrong with this country.

Hey, at least I don’t have to make my money like a Russian troll… posting on purposefully divisive topics to stir up tension and discontent.

I think you misjudged your audience.

+1 Don’t feed the troll, guys.