Anonymous wrote:Don’t kids who live on the other side of Langston Boulevard that were once ASFS now got to Taylor? It’s kids that are three blocks from Innovation.

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Anonymous wrote:They are offering to let ASFS kids transfer to Innovation if they live in the walk zone.

This letter is to inform you that Arlington Public Schools (APS) is offering students who reside in one of the following planning units: 23211, 24080, 24100, 24111, 24120 and will be in Grades K-5 for the 2022-23 school year the option to apply for a targeted neighborhood transfer to Innovation Elementary School. This offer is being made for the 2022-23 school year because Innovation Elementary has space for additional students and the planning unit you reside in is in the bus eligibility zone for ASFS but walk zone to Innovation.

Please note there is a limited number of transfer seats available at Innovation. If the number of applications exceeds the available seats, APS will conduct a lottery to determine admission. Students who do not receive a slot through the lottery will be placed on the waitlist. Once a student accepts an offer, they are removed from all other offers and waitlists including option schools/programs.

Families of students who reside in one of the following planning units: 23211, 24080, 24100, 24111, 24120 and are currently in grades PreK-4 for the 2021-22 school year are eligible to apply for a targeted neighborhood transfer to Innovation. Families interested in applying for a targeted neighborhood transfer must apply online between February 21, 2022 - April 15, 2022 at 4 p.m.

The following applies for the targeted neighborhood transfer students:

Will not be provided as students in these planning units are in the walk zone for Innovation;
Families do not need to reapply to stay at the school each year;
Students will be able to remain through Grade 5 and would then matriculate to their assigned neighborhood middle school (based on address);
Students may return to their neighborhood school at any time; and
Siblings will be admitted together for elementary targeted neighborhood transfers.

I just heard about this too. I wonder if people will want to transfer. It’s a shame the school is so under capacity right now.

Some will, especially in the units right across Wilson/Clarendon Blvd in Courthouse. I think the targeted transfer approach is a good idea.

I honestly wonder why some of those folks weren’t zoned to Innovation. It could be 4-5 years for the building to fill, seems like such a waste in the meantime when we knew ASFS would be over capacity.

There was a lot of uncertainty about the numbers when they drew the lines for Innovation. The people who were (ok, still are) mad about Key moving warned that a lot of the kids who were currently going to Key would not move with the program, so space was left for them at Innovation. That phenomena didn't really materialize. Also, Queen's Court (large subsidized apartment building) just opened and is still filling up. The full impact from that building is yet to be felt. There are a ton of new market rate units opening as well but those honestly aren't very impactful. Plus there was the general outmigration to larging housing during the pandemic for those who could afford it. Finally, some parents who were happy with ASFS chose to seek other options when they were zoned to Innovation, either by moving or going option. Anecdata - two kids on my street who are at ATS now, but were ASFS before the change.

All of these reasons are why the community really needs to push back on them adjusting boundaries next year (and probably the year after too). They based the capacity numbers from 2019. Look how that turned out— both schools are way way way under capacity. There were kids that can walk to innovation that are currently bussed to asfs. There are kids who were at asfs, and can walk to innovation, that are now bussed to Taylor. It was all so unnecessary. My kids stayed at asfs, and it hasn’t been easy for them socially, all their friends were moved to innovation. Kids are resilient but it was so unnecessary.

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Anonymous wrote:They are offering to let ASFS kids transfer to Innovation if they live in the walk zone.

This letter is to inform you that Arlington Public Schools (APS) is offering students who reside in one of the following planning units: 23211, 24080, 24100, 24111, 24120 and will be in Grades K-5 for the 2022-23 school year the option to apply for a targeted neighborhood transfer to Innovation Elementary School. This offer is being made for the 2022-23 school year because Innovation Elementary has space for additional students and the planning unit you reside in is in the bus eligibility zone for ASFS but walk zone to Innovation.

Please note there is a limited number of transfer seats available at Innovation. If the number of applications exceeds the available seats, APS will conduct a lottery to determine admission. Students who do not receive a slot through the lottery will be placed on the waitlist. Once a student accepts an offer, they are removed from all other offers and waitlists including option schools/programs.

Families of students who reside in one of the following planning units: 23211, 24080, 24100, 24111, 24120 and are currently in grades PreK-4 for the 2021-22 school year are eligible to apply for a targeted neighborhood transfer to Innovation. Families interested in applying for a targeted neighborhood transfer must apply online between February 21, 2022 - April 15, 2022 at 4 p.m.

The following applies for the targeted neighborhood transfer students:

Will not be provided as students in these planning units are in the walk zone for Innovation;
Families do not need to reapply to stay at the school each year;
Students will be able to remain through Grade 5 and would then matriculate to their assigned neighborhood middle school (based on address);
Students may return to their neighborhood school at any time; and
Siblings will be admitted together for elementary targeted neighborhood transfers.

I just heard about this too. I wonder if people will want to transfer. It’s a shame the school is so under capacity right now.

Some will, especially in the units right across Wilson/Clarendon Blvd in Courthouse. I think the targeted transfer approach is a good idea.

I honestly wonder why some of those folks weren’t zoned to Innovation. It could be 4-5 years for the building to fill, seems like such a waste in the meantime when we knew ASFS would be over capacity.

There was a lot of uncertainty about the numbers when they drew the lines for Innovation. The people who were (ok, still are) mad about Key moving warned that a lot of the kids who were currently going to Key would not move with the program, so space was left for them at Innovation. That phenomena didn't really materialize. Also, Queen's Court (large subsidized apartment building) just opened and is still filling up. The full impact from that building is yet to be felt. There are a ton of new market rate units opening as well but those honestly aren't very impactful. Plus there was the general outmigration to larging housing during the pandemic for those who could afford it. Finally, some parents who were happy with ASFS chose to seek other options when they were zoned to Innovation, either by moving or going option. Anecdata - two kids on my street who are at ATS now, but were ASFS before the change.

Anonymous wrote:They are just saving on busing. Asfs is at 80%. They still have 6 trailers for some reason— third grade is still in the trailers— so the school is at 60% capacity if you include the trailers. No way a boundary adjustment is necessary for at least two years.

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Anonymous wrote:They are offering to let ASFS kids transfer to Innovation if they live in the walk zone.

This letter is to inform you that Arlington Public Schools (APS) is offering students who reside in one of the following planning units: 23211, 24080, 24100, 24111, 24120 and will be in Grades K-5 for the 2022-23 school year the option to apply for a targeted neighborhood transfer to Innovation Elementary School. This offer is being made for the 2022-23 school year because Innovation Elementary has space for additional students and the planning unit you reside in is in the bus eligibility zone for ASFS but walk zone to Innovation.

Please note there is a limited number of transfer seats available at Innovation. If the number of applications exceeds the available seats, APS will conduct a lottery to determine admission. Students who do not receive a slot through the lottery will be placed on the waitlist. Once a student accepts an offer, they are removed from all other offers and waitlists including option schools/programs.

Families of students who reside in one of the following planning units: 23211, 24080, 24100, 24111, 24120 and are currently in grades PreK-4 for the 2021-22 school year are eligible to apply for a targeted neighborhood transfer to Innovation. Families interested in applying for a targeted neighborhood transfer must apply online between February 21, 2022 - April 15, 2022 at 4 p.m.

The following applies for the targeted neighborhood transfer students:

Will not be provided as students in these planning units are in the walk zone for Innovation;
Families do not need to reapply to stay at the school each year;
Students will be able to remain through Grade 5 and would then matriculate to their assigned neighborhood middle school (based on address);
Students may return to their neighborhood school at any time; and
Siblings will be admitted together for elementary targeted neighborhood transfers.

I just heard about this too. I wonder if people will want to transfer. It’s a shame the school is so under capacity right now.

Some will, especially in the units right across Wilson/Clarendon Blvd in Courthouse. I think the targeted transfer approach is a good idea.

I honestly wonder why some of those folks weren’t zoned to Innovation. It could be 4-5 years for the building to fill, seems like such a waste in the meantime when we knew ASFS would be over capacity.

Anonymous wrote:They are offering to let ASFS kids transfer to Innovation if they live in the walk zone.

This letter is to inform you that Arlington Public Schools (APS) is offering students who reside in one of the following planning units: 23211, 24080, 24100, 24111, 24120 and will be in Grades K-5 for the 2022-23 school year the option to apply for a targeted neighborhood transfer to Innovation Elementary School. This offer is being made for the 2022-23 school year because Innovation Elementary has space for additional students and the planning unit you reside in is in the bus eligibility zone for ASFS but walk zone to Innovation.

Please note there is a limited number of transfer seats available at Innovation. If the number of applications exceeds the available seats, APS will conduct a lottery to determine admission. Students who do not receive a slot through the lottery will be placed on the waitlist. Once a student accepts an offer, they are removed from all other offers and waitlists including option schools/programs.

Families of students who reside in one of the following planning units: 23211, 24080, 24100, 24111, 24120 and are currently in grades PreK-4 for the 2021-22 school year are eligible to apply for a targeted neighborhood transfer to Innovation. Families interested in applying for a targeted neighborhood transfer must apply online between February 21, 2022 - April 15, 2022 at 4 p.m.

The following applies for the targeted neighborhood transfer students:

Will not be provided as students in these planning units are in the walk zone for Innovation;
Families do not need to reapply to stay at the school each year;
Students will be able to remain through Grade 5 and would then matriculate to their assigned neighborhood middle school (based on address);
Students may return to their neighborhood school at any time; and
Siblings will be admitted together for elementary targeted neighborhood transfers.

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Anonymous wrote:They are offering to let ASFS kids transfer to Innovation if they live in the walk zone.

This letter is to inform you that Arlington Public Schools (APS) is offering students who reside in one of the following planning units: 23211, 24080, 24100, 24111, 24120 and will be in Grades K-5 for the 2022-23 school year the option to apply for a targeted neighborhood transfer to Innovation Elementary School. This offer is being made for the 2022-23 school year because Innovation Elementary has space for additional students and the planning unit you reside in is in the bus eligibility zone for ASFS but walk zone to Innovation.

Please note there is a limited number of transfer seats available at Innovation. If the number of applications exceeds the available seats, APS will conduct a lottery to determine admission. Students who do not receive a slot through the lottery will be placed on the waitlist. Once a student accepts an offer, they are removed from all other offers and waitlists including option schools/programs.

Families of students who reside in one of the following planning units: 23211, 24080, 24100, 24111, 24120 and are currently in grades PreK-4 for the 2021-22 school year are eligible to apply for a targeted neighborhood transfer to Innovation. Families interested in applying for a targeted neighborhood transfer must apply online between February 21, 2022 - April 15, 2022 at 4 p.m.

The following applies for the targeted neighborhood transfer students:

Will not be provided as students in these planning units are in the walk zone for Innovation;
Families do not need to reapply to stay at the school each year;
Students will be able to remain through Grade 5 and would then matriculate to their assigned neighborhood middle school (based on address);
Students may return to their neighborhood school at any time; and
Siblings will be admitted together for elementary targeted neighborhood transfers.

I just heard about this too. I wonder if people will want to transfer. It’s a shame the school is so under capacity right now.

Some will, especially in the units right across Wilson/Clarendon Blvd in Courthouse. I think the targeted transfer approach is a good idea.

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Anonymous wrote:They are offering to let ASFS kids transfer to Innovation if they live in the walk zone.

This letter is to inform you that Arlington Public Schools (APS) is offering students who reside in one of the following planning units: 23211, 24080, 24100, 24111, 24120 and will be in Grades K-5 for the 2022-23 school year the option to apply for a targeted neighborhood transfer to Innovation Elementary School. This offer is being made for the 2022-23 school year because Innovation Elementary has space for additional students and the planning unit you reside in is in the bus eligibility zone for ASFS but walk zone to Innovation.

Please note there is a limited number of transfer seats available at Innovation. If the number of applications exceeds the available seats, APS will conduct a lottery to determine admission. Students who do not receive a slot through the lottery will be placed on the waitlist. Once a student accepts an offer, they are removed from all other offers and waitlists including option schools/programs.

Families of students who reside in one of the following planning units: 23211, 24080, 24100, 24111, 24120 and are currently in grades PreK-4 for the 2021-22 school year are eligible to apply for a targeted neighborhood transfer to Innovation. Families interested in applying for a targeted neighborhood transfer must apply online between February 21, 2022 - April 15, 2022 at 4 p.m.

The following applies for the targeted neighborhood transfer students:

Will not be provided as students in these planning units are in the walk zone for Innovation;
Families do not need to reapply to stay at the school each year;
Students will be able to remain through Grade 5 and would then matriculate to their assigned neighborhood middle school (based on address);
Students may return to their neighborhood school at any time; and
Siblings will be admitted together for elementary targeted neighborhood transfers.

I just heard about this too. I wonder if people will want to transfer. It’s a shame the school is so under capacity right now.

Anonymous wrote:They are offering to let ASFS kids transfer to Innovation if they live in the walk zone.

This letter is to inform you that Arlington Public Schools (APS) is offering students who reside in one of the following planning units: 23211, 24080, 24100, 24111, 24120 and will be in Grades K-5 for the 2022-23 school year the option to apply for a targeted neighborhood transfer to Innovation Elementary School. This offer is being made for the 2022-23 school year because Innovation Elementary has space for additional students and the planning unit you reside in is in the bus eligibility zone for ASFS but walk zone to Innovation.

Please note there is a limited number of transfer seats available at Innovation. If the number of applications exceeds the available seats, APS will conduct a lottery to determine admission. Students who do not receive a slot through the lottery will be placed on the waitlist. Once a student accepts an offer, they are removed from all other offers and waitlists including option schools/programs.

Families of students who reside in one of the following planning units: 23211, 24080, 24100, 24111, 24120 and are currently in grades PreK-4 for the 2021-22 school year are eligible to apply for a targeted neighborhood transfer to Innovation. Families interested in applying for a targeted neighborhood transfer must apply online between February 21, 2022 - April 15, 2022 at 4 p.m.

The following applies for the targeted neighborhood transfer students:

Will not be provided as students in these planning units are in the walk zone for Innovation;
Families do not need to reapply to stay at the school each year;
Students will be able to remain through Grade 5 and would then matriculate to their assigned neighborhood middle school (based on address);
Students may return to their neighborhood school at any time; and
Siblings will be admitted together for elementary targeted neighborhood transfers.

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Anonymous wrote:Expect houses not impacted by this to start clearing $3.5 million.

Impacted by what?

Anonymous wrote:Innovation was deliberately left empty to allow for kids from new development and changes in the long term number of kids who go to Key from the area. I think the 5 year time frame is probably accurate. When Marbella is fully online Innovation will resemble a Barcroft or Barrett.

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Anonymous wrote:Construction of this size tends to shift the boundary for all community. There are other new buildings coming online nearby very soon (e.g. the gigantic apartment building in the landmark block) that is also technically in Innovation zone. There are other sorts of redevelopment plans in Rosslyn as well, if you take a look at the site plans. Perhaps everyone is underestimating how many children will be living in those market-rate apartments and condos, and the number of children from those high density buildings will be enough to balance out the FARM rate of the school. Perhaps not.

+1. There are two 30+ story buildings planned for Rosslyn, the Courthouse Landmark building and the old Wendy’s lot across the street, and some other things in the pipes. Several memos have discussed needing to create 1400 elementary seats for Rosslyn with 2 elementary schools (it’s my understanding Innovation is one the schools, and the second school will be new. Where? Who knows.). The FARMS rate may go up at Innovation when Marbella comes online but hopefully market-rate housing will balance it out. I say “hopefully” because I think it’s better for everyone if a school has an enrollment that doesn’t skew too much towards any one demographic, rich or poor.

There are a couple of commercial buildings in the depths of Rosslyn that exceed 30 stories. But up in Courthouse? And residential buildings? I don't think so.

BTW, Arlington County is projected to have between 65-70k more people in the coming couple of decades, so about 2-3k per year. They have to live somewhere, right? You really think you can just wish them away??? So I would think dense housing on and branching from the Wilson, Langston Blvd, and Columbia Pike corridors is a good thing, right? From there, ensuring a substantial number of committed affordable units would also seem to be good.

In fact, why does Arlington forbid duplexes, triplexes and quads on current SFH lots. You mean to tell me some of those enormous lots near WGCC couldn't accommodate 3 or 4 families rather than one? C'mon. Arlington evolved from farmland to being a suburb, and people seemed pretty happy. Well, times are changing again, and we in Arlington have to change with them.

You seem ill informed. Developers do not contribute to the education system, they do not provide land or build schools. All they do is build housing.

Half of the counties budget is schools.

All schools everywhere are about at capacity. If we start building duplexes and what not in SFH space, the stress and cost of the schools systems will escalate and threatens the financial solvency of the county.

Now, if developers would bear some of the capital cost for education, such as providing some land or directly funding building schools it might help allow the growth of housing to be metered by the growth of the school system.

Actually, in recent years (mid 20teens), developers twice offered land to the County for potential school sites. And twice the County and APS declined.
APS doesn't want to deal with land they don't already own, except maybe some County-owned land (parks) adjacent to existing schools. That's why Fleet was built immediately next to TJ. Developers don't build schools because (1) the County doesn't elicit significant benefits from developers and are too timid to advocate in Richmond for more authority to extract more from developers and (2) APS wants to maintain tight control and build the way they want to build using their usual architect firm buddies. Maybe some of the APS part can change with the new Superintendent and the retirement of the previous Asst Superintendent for Facilities.

What land? The buck property? They offered to sell it to the county because it’s unbuildable because of gas mains running under it.

Well, there's that; but that was offered to the COunty, not APS. I was referring to two proposals that occurred during the time of the south arlington working group determining where to build what is now Fleet. Dominion Arms apartment building wanted to redevelop and offered a small parcel of land. Vulcano(? Don't recall the name....think it started with a "V") also proposed a small parcel of land in Pentagon City. Regardless of whether or not anyone believes they would have made good sites for a school, APS and the County didn't even have enough interest in the idea to even consider them - for building a school or for any other purpose, not even for additional park space.

Small parcel? We have excess elementary space, we don’t need small parcels.

Vornado was the second developer.
Anyway, there was no excess elementary space at the time (which is why they were determining a location to build Fleet) and there could have at least been some creative thought about ways to use the parcels...didn't have to be for a 750-seat elementary school. Point is, neither APS nor County had even one second's worth of interest in even receiving the proposals.

But they didn’t need the land, they have built fleet and cardinal and now have plenty of elementary seats. What creative thoughts would you have for a small parcel that would be economical? Another high rise high school, but have to be able to create a compelling program that would draw option students; we have already seen that AT does not have the clamoring demand that HB does so it would be an expensive gamble to invest in land AND a new building.

Developers should be GIVING land to APS because lowering school quality will eventually affect their profits.