Anonymous
Post 02/06/2022 07:26     Subject: What happens if you ED and then back out?
Anonymous wrote:I realize all the posters here have a high moral code and would not play this ED game. In 5 pages of posts, there has only been 1 mention of a student having his acceptance rescinded and that was with an ivy/T 20 school. Looking for real life instances with ED acceptances to regular schools like Wake Forest or Iowa or Juniata. I am not convinced public schools with overworked guidance counselors have the capability or interest to deal with this.

-no skin in this game. Both of my DS were deferred in the ED round and ultimately rejected.


Once the guidance counselor loses their reputation for integrity they can't get it back.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2022 07:23     Subject: What happens if you ED and then back out?
Anonymous wrote:My kid graduated from TJ a few years ago. There was a kid in his class who got into a T20 ED. Didn’t withdraw other apps and then got into an Ivy. Long story short, the Ivy rescinded and the ED school rescinded and the kid had to take a gap year.


Why did they not ED to the ivy if that was the preferred school?
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2022 06:20     Subject: What happens if you ED and then back out?
Anonymous wrote:I realize all the posters here have a high moral code and would not play this ED game. In 5 pages of posts, there has only been 1 mention of a student having his acceptance rescinded and that was with an ivy/T 20 school. Looking for real life instances with ED acceptances to regular schools like Wake Forest or Iowa or Juniata. I am not convinced public schools with overworked guidance counselors have the capability or interest to deal with this.

-no skin in this game. Both of my DS were deferred in the ED round and ultimately rejected.
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You're mistaken, but what would be your point if you were right? That public school kids shouldn't worry about breaking a contract they've signed?

--a public school counselor
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2022 05:45     Subject: What happens if you ED and then back out?
I realize all the posters here have a high moral code and would not play this ED game. In 5 pages of posts, there has only been 1 mention of a student having his acceptance rescinded and that was with an ivy/T 20 school. Looking for real life instances with ED acceptances to regular schools like Wake Forest or Iowa or Juniata. I am not convinced public schools with overworked guidance counselors have the capability or interest to deal with this.

-no skin in this game. Both of my DS were deferred in the ED round and ultimately rejected.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2022 04:25     Subject: What happens if you ED and then back out?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The high school college guidance counselor may not release final transcripts to any school other than the ED where the kid was accepted.

It isn't just about the applicant. In this case the high school and the college guidance counselor are also on the hook.

How selfish.


Really? How could it be legal for a public high school to withhold transcripts?


Because the child, the parent, and the high school counselor all sign a legal contract.


It’s not a legal contract.


But it is a binding contract nonetheless.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2022 00:49     Subject: What happens if you ED and then back out?
Anonymous wrote:OP, I sure as heck hope your kid is not at my kids school. If they are, I will be incensed at your hubris.


It wasn't OP's kid.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2022 00:48     Subject: What happens if you ED and then back out?
Anonymous wrote:No one is paying attention other than a few hall monitors on DCUM. He will go to ED. No one has explained why it makes any difference if he just sees whether he gets in and then immediately declines. He’s not going to any of these other schools - he’s not even interested in most of them (other than 1 which I’m sure he won’t get into). So calm down dcum. He’s not taking a spot. He’s simply competitive like everyone else.


New "Hall Monitor" here. There are lots of people paying attention to your callousness and lack of ethics. If he is in the runnung and gets accepted, there is another kid who does not get accepted. Perhaps that kid really wanted to go to that school. Get it now? Even if not, you signed a contract saying you would withdraw other apps. To no do that is unethical.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2022 00:39     Subject: What happens if you ED and then back out?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not OP, but I wish we could also withdraw. Mostly bc we got zero merit from the school my DD was accepted to ED. And plenty of merit aid from the other schools she was accepted to -- but I realize that is the risk we took, but still sucks. We thought there would be a little merit at least and now we will need to take out a loan.


You can decline if the reason is financial. The NY Times did a feature on ED and financial aid. Look it up.


It doesn't sound like OP applied for financial aid. This doesn't apply to merit aid
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2022 00:38     Subject: What happens if you ED and then back out?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not OP, but I wish we could also withdraw. Mostly bc we got zero merit from the school my DD was accepted to ED. And plenty of merit aid from the other schools she was accepted to -- but I realize that is the risk we took, but still sucks. We thought there would be a little merit at least and now we will need to take out a loan.


The one loophole is financial. You are not forced to take out loans. If you cannot afford this school without loans but something that you can afford without loans has come through, you can turn down the ED. Before I did that, though, I would call the ED financial aid office and see if they can offer you something.


I thought that was only of the cost was way off the NPC.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2022 00:37     Subject: What happens if you ED and then back out?
Anonymous wrote:Not OP, but I wish we could also withdraw. Mostly bc we got zero merit from the school my DD was accepted to ED. And plenty of merit aid from the other schools she was accepted to -- but I realize that is the risk we took, but still sucks. We thought there would be a little merit at least and now we will need to take out a loan.


This is why my kid did not apply ED. She will also not get the ED bump that yours got. So, there's that....
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2022 23:56     Subject: Re:What happens if you ED and then back out?
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/18/your-money/paying-for-college/early-decision-binding-nyu.html

You can back out if you haven’t accepted the ED offer. Accepted is the key word.

It also says that if you applied for financial aid but didn’t get what you need to attend, then you can withdraw.

Anyone thinking about applying ED needs to read this.

Anonymous
Post 02/05/2022 23:44     Subject: What happens if you ED and then back out?
Anonymous wrote:Not OP, but I wish we could also withdraw. Mostly bc we got zero merit from the school my DD was accepted to ED. And plenty of merit aid from the other schools she was accepted to -- but I realize that is the risk we took, but still sucks. We thought there would be a little merit at least and now we will need to take out a loan.


You can decline if the reason is financial. The NY Times did a feature on ED and financial aid. Look it up.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2022 23:25     Subject: What happens if you ED and then back out?
OP, I sure as heck hope your kid is not at my kids school. If they are, I will be incensed at your hubris.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2022 23:24     Subject: What happens if you ED and then back out?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The high school college guidance counselor may not release final transcripts to any school other than the ED where the kid was accepted.

It isn't just about the applicant. In this case the high school and the college guidance counselor are also on the hook.

How selfish.


Really? How could it be legal for a public high school to withhold transcripts?


Because the child, the parent, and the high school counselor all sign a legal contract.


It’s not a legal contract.


The high school counselor has signed it as well. They are the ones responsible for your kid's final transcript. As far as the counselor is concerned, your kid is going to the ED and only the ED.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2022 23:21     Subject: What happens if you ED and then back out?
Anonymous wrote:No one is paying attention other than a few hall monitors on DCUM. He will go to ED. No one has explained why it makes any difference if he just sees whether he gets in and then immediately declines. He’s not going to any of these other schools - he’s not even interested in most of them (other than 1 which I’m sure he won’t get into). So calm down dcum. He’s not taking a spot. He’s simply competitive like everyone else.


He is taking an acceptance away from one of his classmates, or someone from the county. And if it is multiple applications to different sought after schools, he is potentially taking slots away from multiple classmates. So he is going to harvard but is taking slots at Emory and BU from his friends. Plus, he is putting his school in a horrible position and is risking his own ED acceptance.