Same ranking as previous post, but including DC and MD


name city state public %asian acceptances seniors %accepted 0 THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL ALEXANDRIA VA True 59.560440 136 423.0 6.43 1 RICHARD MONTGOMERY HIGH SCHOOL ROCKVILLE MD True 25.182149 38 482.0 1.58 2 MONTGOMERY BLAIR HIGH SCHOOL SILVER SPRING MD True 15.663900 46 619.0 1.49 3 WALT WHITMAN HIGH SCHOOL BETHESDA MD True 12.197687 26 441.0 1.18 4 WINSTON CHURCHILL HIGH SCHOOL POTOMAC MD True 23.184777 23 454.0 1.01 5 CHARLOTTESVILLE HIGH SCHOOL CHARLOTTESVILLE VA True 7.294317 13 284.0 0.92 6 SCHOOL WITHOUT WALLS HIGH SCHOOL WASHINGTON DC True 6.271186 5 137.0 0.73 7 THOMAS S. WOOTTON HIGH SCHOOL ROCKVILLE MD True 35.508900 19 554.0 0.69 8 WALTER JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL BETHESDA MD True 12.245800 15 543.0 0.55 9 POOLESVILLE HIGH SCHOOL POOLESVILLE MD True 25.795918 8 299.0 0.54 10 RIVER HILL HIGH SCHOOL CLARKSVILLE MD True 25.877863 9 340.0 0.53 11 WILSON HIGH SCHOOL WASHINGTON DC True 6.879195 10 383.0 0.52 12 CENTENNIAL HIGH SCHOOL ELLICOTT CITY MD True 34.878745 8 335.0 0.48 13 ATHOLTON HIGH SCHOOL COLUMBIA MD True 18.013699 9 381.0 0.47 14 JAMESTOWN HIGH SCHOOL WILLIAMSBURG VA True 2.589490 7 299.0 0.47 15 BETHESDA-CHEVY CHASE HIGH SCHOOL BETHESDA MD True 5.566700 11 477.0 0.46 16 BLACKSBURG HIGH SCHOOL BLACKSBURG VA True 6.445993 6 262.0 0.46 17 MCLEAN HIGH SCHOOL MCLEAN VA True 20.608108 11 486.0 0.45 18 OAKLAND MILLS HIGH SCHOOL COLUMBIA MD True 6.912442 5 249.0 0.40 19 MADISON HIGH SCHOOL VIENNA VA True 12.295082 9 478.0 0.38 20 LANGLEY HIGH SCHOOL MCLEAN VA True 21.272366 9 509.0 0.35 21 HAMMOND HIGH SCHOOL COLUMBIA MD True 9.380098 5 288.0 0.35 22 URBANA HIGH SCHOOL IJAMSVILLE MD True 10.873664 6 361.0 0.33 23 RADFORD HIGH SCHOOL RADFORD VA True 1.632653 2 123.0 0.33 24 BALTIMORE POLYTECHNIC INSTITUTE BALTIMORE MD True 3.946488 5 328.0 0.30 25 WEST SPRINGFIELD HIGH SCHOOL SPRINGFIELD VA True 15.140845 9 620.0 0.29 26 WASHINGTON LEE HIGH SCHOOL ARLINGTON VA True 10.022173 7 496.0 0.28 27 HOWARD HIGH SCHOOL ELLICOTT CITY MD True 11.490330 6 435.0 0.28 28 ELEANOR ROOSEVELT HIGH SCHOOL GREENBELT MD True 9.345048 8 584.0 0.27 29 PRINCESS ANNE HIGH SCHOOL VIRGINIA BEACH VA True 8.066298 6 443.0 0.27 30 DULANEY HIGH SCHOOL TIMONIUM MD True 13.921242 6 454.0 0.26 31 SEVERNA PARK HIGH SCHOOL SEVERNA PARK MD True 3.151709 6 465.0 0.26 32 SOUTHERN HIGH SCHOOL HARWOOD MD True 0.840336 3 235.0 0.26 33 WESTERN SCHOOL OF TECHNOLOGY & ENV. SCIENCE BALTIMORE MD True 10.583153 3 227.0 0.26 34 MONTICELLO HIGH SCHOOL CHARLOTTESVILLE VA True 2.543143 3 237.0 0.25 35 ABERDEEN HIGH SCHOOL ABERDEEN MD True 4.570637 4 328.0 0.24 36 CHRISTIANSBURG HIGH SCHOOL CHRISTIANSBURG VA True 1.009174 3 247.0 0.24 37 SOUTH HAGERSTOWN HIGH SCHOOL HAGERSTOWN MD True 2.290679 3 250.0 0.24 38 LONG REACH HIGH SCHOOL COLUMBIA MD True 14.365411 4 344.0 0.23 39 GEORGE MASON HIGH SCHOOL FALLS CHURCH VA True 9.283820 2 173.0 0.23 40 OAKTON HIGH SCHOOL VIENNA VA True 24.013871 6 552.0 0.22 41 NORTHWEST HIGH SCHOOL GERMANTOWN MD True 17.725118 5 455.0 0.22 42 LOUDOUN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL LEESBURG VA True 6.822742 4 368.0 0.22 43 PARKSIDE HIGH SCHOOL SALISBURY MD True 4.757630 3 267.0 0.22 44 ALBEMARLE HIGH SCHOOL CHARLOTTESVILLE VA True 7.142857 5 479.0 0.21 45 TABB HIGH SCHOOL YORKTOWN VA True 7.002562 3 281.0 0.21 46 BOONSBORO HIGH SCHOOL BOONSBORO MD True 1.408451 2 195.0 0.21 47 GEORGE W. CARVER CENTER FOR ARTS & TECHNOLOGY TOWSON MD True 6.565064 2 189.0 0.21 48 MARRIOTTS RIDGE HIGH SCHOOL MARRIOTTSVILLE MD True 26.270457 3 293.0 0.20 49 MIDDLETOWN HIGH SCHOOL MIDDLETOWN MD True 2.568493 3 295.0 0.20 50 OAKDALE HIGH SCHOOL IJAMSVILLE MD True 2.727273 3 300.0 0.20 51 WOODROW WILSON HIGH SCHOOL PORTSMOUTH VA True 0.733676 3 295.0 0.20 52 LAKE BRADDOCK SECONDARY BURKE VA True 19.576980 6 625.0 0.19 53 CLARKSBURG HIGH SCHOOL CLARKSBURG MD True 17.757484 4 413.0 0.19 54 HAMPTON HIGH SCHOOL HAMPTON VA True 3.688799 3 324.0 0.19 55 HEREFORD HIGH SCHOOL PARKTON MD True 1.599327 3 308.0 0.19 56 LOCH RAVEN HIGH SCHOOL BALTIMORE MD True 6.334842 2 216.0 0.19 57 TOWSON HIGH LAW & PUBLIC POLICY TOWSON MD True 10.803324 3 328.0 0.18 58 PIKESVILLE HIGH SCHOOL BALTIMORE MD True 7.619048 2 220.0 0.18 59 WASHINGTON & LEE HIGH SCHOOL MONTROSS VA True 0.785855 1 114.0 0.18 60 ELLINGTON SCHOOL OF THE ARTS WASHINGTON DC True 2.676864 1 118.0 0.17 61 ESSEX HIGH SCHOOL TAPPAHANNOCK VA True 1.050420 1 121.0 0.17 62 RESERVOIR HIGH SCHOOL FULTON MD True 13.360324 3 375.0 0.16 63 WESTERN ALBEMARLE HIGH SCHOOL CROZET VA True 2.879079 2 248.0 0.16 64 WHEATON HIGH SCHOOL SILVER SPRING MD True 9.952284 2 244.0 0.16 65 SOUTH RIVER HIGH SCHOOL EDGEWATER MD True 3.076923 4 526.0 0.15 66 ALBERT EINSTEIN HIGH SCHOOL KENSINGTON MD True 10.842664 3 409.0 0.15 67 STONE BRIDGE HIGH SCHOOL ASHBURN VA True 12.432432 3 409.0 0.15 68 JOHN HANDLEY HIGH SCHOOL WINCHESTER VA True 2.327515 2 273.0 0.15 69 SOUTH CARROLL HIGH SCHOOL SYKESVILLE MD True 1.960784 2 260.0 0.15 70 OCEAN LAKES HIGH SCHOOL VIRGINIA BEACH VA True 6.420765 4 567.0 0.14 71 CATONSVILLE HIGH SCHOOL BALTIMORE MD True 8.987486 3 419.0 0.14 72 PAINT BRANCH HIGH SCHOOL BURTONSVILLE MD True 14.680744 3 422.0 0.14 73 GRAFTON HIGH SCHOOL YORKTOWN VA True 7.660283 2 283.0 0.14 74 KETTLE RUN HIGH SCHOOL NOKESVILLE VA True 1.451613 2 290.0 0.14 75 ROCKVILLE HIGH SCHOOL ROCKVILLE MD True 11.027757 2 294.0 0.14 76 BOHEMIA MANOR HIGH SCHOOL CHESAPEAKE CITY MD True 0.645161 1 140.0 0.14 77 NOTTOWAY HIGH SCHOOL CREWE VA True 0.465116 1 147.0 0.14 78 STRASBURG HIGH SCHOOL STRASBURG VA True 0.471698 1 141.0 0.14 79 OSBOURN PARK HIGH SCHOOL MANASSAS VA True 10.165138 4 625.0 0.13 80 BROAD RUN HIGH SCHOOL ASHBURN VA True 17.814855 3 476.0 0.13 81 CHARLES HERBERT FLOWERS HIGH SCHOOL SPRINGDALE MD True 1.722441 3 465.0 0.13 82 EDISON HIGH SCHOOL ALEXANDRIA VA True 13.408974 3 447.0 0.13 83 TUSCARORA HIGH SCHOOL LEESBURG VA True 9.469892 3 446.0 0.13 84 ANNAPOLIS HIGH SCHOOL ANNAPOLIS MD True 2.702703 2 312.0 0.13 85 E.C. GLASS HIGH SCHOOL LYNCHBURG VA True 1.416431 2 318.0 0.13 86 GLENELG HIGH SCHOOL GLENELG MD True 7.930214 2 297.0 0.13 87 RICHLANDS HIGH SCHOOL RICHLANDS VA True 0.890208 1 151.0 0.13 88 BROADNECK HIGH SCHOOL ANNAPOLIS MD True 3.041825 3 511.0 0.12 89 SOUTH COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL LORTON VA True 18.249534 3 516.0 0.12 90 HENRICO HIGH SCHOOL RICHMOND VA True 8.802817 2 327.0 0.12 91 LINGANORE HIGH SCHOOL FREDERICK MD True 1.991758 2 336.0 0.12 92 TUSCARORA HIGH SCHOOL FREDERICK MD True 6.312962 2 346.0 0.12 93 WARWICK HIGH SCHOOL NEWPORT NEWS VA True 4.452297 2 340.0 0.12 94 NORTH CARROLL HIGH SCHOOL HAMPSTEAD MD True 1.944444 1 168.0 0.12 95 TC WILLIAMS HIGH SCHOOL ALEXANDRIA VA True 5.252641 4 747.0 0.11 96 C.D. HYLTON HIGH SCHOOL WOODBRIDGE VA True 6.255077 3 565.0 0.11 97 YORKTOWN HIGH SCHOOL ARLINGTON VA True 7.759959 3 531.0 0.11 98 GOV. THOMAS JOHNSON HIGH SCHOOL FREDERICK MD True 5.680317 2 377.0 0.11 99 HUNTINGTOWN HIGH SCHOOL HUNTINGTOWN MD True 1.523546 2 370.0 0.11

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Anonymous wrote:We are looking at two neighborhoods for homes, and they are zoned for these two different schools. We have looked into both, and it seems that WL is Considered more academically rigorous, but DS is not interested in pursuing an IB, but would prefer to do AP courses. How does the academics compare between the two schools when you don’t follow the IB path. DS is not sporty, really just likes school and academics, kind of a nerd. Will he be bullied at Yorktown?

Also, they seem to be planning to increase WL to 3000 students, Yorktown is 2300. Well that increase the student population affect the schools performance? It’s a big jump. Did they add more cafeteria space and field space?

I have had students at both, although my W-L student was full IB. YHS has a very bro culture, lots of entitlement; it's not for the faint of heart, or for a family that values kindness over stuff or "winning." Your student will find a space at W-L that suits him; he may not at YHS.

My understanding is that the AP offerings are the same at both schools.

It’s clear to me that the WL 10 years ago was a better school for us; I’m not convinced supersized WL will be. Even the superintendent is realizing they made a mistake, but I guess there is no plan to roll back. With nearly 3000 kids, you could never see the same kids year to year in class and clubs will be huge. Finding your place got harder.

Bro culture sounds rough too, maybe we need to consider FCPS, though we commute to work and wanted to avoid the pressure cooker FCPS can be.

Or, you could consider Wakefield. There are good options other than Yorktown and WL in Arlington.

What is the most rigorous academic path at Wakefield. It seemed similar to Yorktown, no IB, but with a real overcrowding issue that doesn’t seem will be fixed soon and worsen as National Landing grows.

WHS has an AP network and Capstone program. Not sure how many dual enrollment courses. You'll find the most DE in the Arlington Tech program at the Career Center (lottery). I don't know about YHS; but WHS freshmen can take AP World History. That's not an option at WL; but they, I believe, have a more coordinated intensified English-History curriculum instead. FWIW, from comments I've read/heard about students taking a world language that is conducted at the Career Center, it seems to be easier to do that from Wakefield than YHS - perhaps because it is a little closer?

Boundary adjustments are currently being made, sending kids who were newly districted to Wakefield during the last boundary change back to WL.
All the high schools are going to remain crowded. But Wakefield's physical campus is more open (and newer) than Yorktown and you don't have the excessive affluence and attitudes of entitlement other posters complain about at Yorktown.

What ages are your children now? There are fluctuations in enrollment over time. Right now and into the foreseeable future, you're going to be crowded in any of the 3 schools; but WL is going to be significantly larger as they open another 600 additional seats at the old Ed Center. Adding seats to Arlington Tech will also help divert handfuls of kids to the Career Center; but APS still doesn't seem interested in building a fourth comprehensive high school. So any additional capacity will likely be used to expand Arlington Tech and probably add yet another special program with lottery admissions.

Maybe you should visit each school during a school day and get a feel for the atmosphere and environment. My personal experience is a noticeable sense of pressure and anxiety in the WL atmosphere v. Wakefield's. I haven't been inside Yorktown during the school day to compare. There are high achieving students in every school and obnoxious parents at every school. I do believe the Wakefield environment and community is more relaxed and noticeably less stressful. Perhaps some of that lower stress is from lower overt excessive academic pressure from admin and parents; but students can still sufficiently challenge themselves and be prepared for top colleges and universities.

WL and WHS certainly offer more socioeconomic diversity, which imo is a positive. It seems to me that parent attitude used to be that YHS was the "end all be all" in Arlington; but that has transferred over to WL over the last several years. Hence, nobody will allow APS to make boundary changes that take them out of the WL zone and its fast-approaching mega-size and the side effects that come with that. That isn't going to change any time soon.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is another data point for you, which might or might not be relevant.

average %of seniors accepted into Harvard, Princeton, and MIT from 2015-2020

name city state public %asian acceptances seniors %accepted 0 THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL ALEXANDRIA VA True 59.560440 136 423.0 6.43 1 CHARLOTTESVILLE HIGH SCHOOL CHARLOTTESVILLE VA True 7.294317 13 284.0 0.92 2 JAMESTOWN HIGH SCHOOL WILLIAMSBURG VA True 2.589490 7 299.0 0.47 3 BLACKSBURG HIGH SCHOOL BLACKSBURG VA True 6.445993 6 262.0 0.46 4 MCLEAN HIGH SCHOOL MCLEAN VA True 20.608108 11 486.0 0.45 5 MADISON HIGH SCHOOL VIENNA VA True 12.295082 9 478.0 0.38 6 LANGLEY HIGH SCHOOL MCLEAN VA True 21.272366 9 509.0 0.35 7 RADFORD HIGH SCHOOL RADFORD VA True 1.632653 2 123.0 0.33 8 WEST SPRINGFIELD HIGH SCHOOL SPRINGFIELD VA True 15.140845 9 620.0 0.29 9 WASHINGTON LEE HIGH SCHOOL ARLINGTON VA True 10.022173 7 496.0 0.28 10 PRINCESS ANNE HIGH SCHOOL VIRGINIA BEACH VA True 8.066298 6 443.0 0.27 11 MONTICELLO HIGH SCHOOL CHARLOTTESVILLE VA True 2.543143 3 237.0 0.25 12 CHRISTIANSBURG HIGH SCHOOL CHRISTIANSBURG VA True 1.009174 3 247.0 0.24 13 GEORGE MASON HIGH SCHOOL FALLS CHURCH VA True 9.283820 2 173.0 0.23 14 OAKTON HIGH SCHOOL VIENNA VA True 24.013871 6 552.0 0.22 15 LOUDOUN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL LEESBURG VA True 6.822742 4 368.0 0.22 16 ALBEMARLE HIGH SCHOOL CHARLOTTESVILLE VA True 7.142857 5 479.0 0.21 17 TABB HIGH SCHOOL YORKTOWN VA True 7.002562 3 281.0 0.21 18 WOODROW WILSON HIGH SCHOOL PORTSMOUTH VA True 0.733676 3 295.0 0.20 19 LAKE BRADDOCK SECONDARY BURKE VA True 19.576980 6 625.0 0.19 20 HAMPTON HIGH SCHOOL HAMPTON VA True 3.688799 3 324.0 0.19 21 WASHINGTON & LEE HIGH SCHOOL MONTROSS VA True 0.785855 1 114.0 0.18 22 ESSEX HIGH SCHOOL TAPPAHANNOCK VA True 1.050420 1 121.0 0.17 23 WESTERN ALBEMARLE HIGH SCHOOL CROZET VA True 2.879079 2 248.0 0.16 24 STONE BRIDGE HIGH SCHOOL ASHBURN VA True 12.432432 3 409.0 0.15 25 JOHN HANDLEY HIGH SCHOOL WINCHESTER VA True 2.327515 2 273.0 0.15 26 OCEAN LAKES HIGH SCHOOL VIRGINIA BEACH VA True 6.420765 4 567.0 0.14 27 GRAFTON HIGH SCHOOL YORKTOWN VA True 7.660283 2 283.0 0.14 28 KETTLE RUN HIGH SCHOOL NOKESVILLE VA True 1.451613 2 290.0 0.14 29 NOTTOWAY HIGH SCHOOL CREWE VA True 0.465116 1 147.0 0.14 30 STRASBURG HIGH SCHOOL STRASBURG VA True 0.471698 1 141.0 0.14 31 OSBOURN PARK HIGH SCHOOL MANASSAS VA True 10.165138 4 625.0 0.13 32 BROAD RUN HIGH SCHOOL ASHBURN VA True 17.814855 3 476.0 0.13 33 EDISON HIGH SCHOOL ALEXANDRIA VA True 13.408974 3 447.0 0.13 34 TUSCARORA HIGH SCHOOL LEESBURG VA True 9.469892 3 446.0 0.13 35 E.C. GLASS HIGH SCHOOL LYNCHBURG VA True 1.416431 2 318.0 0.13 36 RICHLANDS HIGH SCHOOL RICHLANDS VA True 0.890208 1 151.0 0.13 37 SOUTH COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL LORTON VA True 18.249534 3 516.0 0.12 38 HENRICO HIGH SCHOOL RICHMOND VA True 8.802817 2 327.0 0.12 39 WARWICK HIGH SCHOOL NEWPORT NEWS VA True 4.452297 2 340.0 0.12 40 TC WILLIAMS HIGH SCHOOL ALEXANDRIA VA True 5.252641 4 747.0 0.11 41 C.D. HYLTON HIGH SCHOOL WOODBRIDGE VA True 6.255077 3 565.0 0.11 42 YORKTOWN HIGH SCHOOL ARLINGTON VA True 7.759959 3 531.0 0.11

Right so this just confirms neither school is a feeder to these elite schools.

Not much to say. They are just two mediocre-plus high schools.

That also applied to McLean and Langley. Not feeders to elite schools and just mediocre-plus hs.

Agree. Tiger moms will get the same results at all of those places.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is another data point for you, which might or might not be relevant.

average %of seniors accepted into Harvard, Princeton, and MIT from 2015-2020

name city state public %asian acceptances seniors %accepted 0 THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL ALEXANDRIA VA True 59.560440 136 423.0 6.43 1 CHARLOTTESVILLE HIGH SCHOOL CHARLOTTESVILLE VA True 7.294317 13 284.0 0.92 2 JAMESTOWN HIGH SCHOOL WILLIAMSBURG VA True 2.589490 7 299.0 0.47 3 BLACKSBURG HIGH SCHOOL BLACKSBURG VA True 6.445993 6 262.0 0.46 4 MCLEAN HIGH SCHOOL MCLEAN VA True 20.608108 11 486.0 0.45 5 MADISON HIGH SCHOOL VIENNA VA True 12.295082 9 478.0 0.38 6 LANGLEY HIGH SCHOOL MCLEAN VA True 21.272366 9 509.0 0.35 7 RADFORD HIGH SCHOOL RADFORD VA True 1.632653 2 123.0 0.33 8 WEST SPRINGFIELD HIGH SCHOOL SPRINGFIELD VA True 15.140845 9 620.0 0.29 9 WASHINGTON LEE HIGH SCHOOL ARLINGTON VA True 10.022173 7 496.0 0.28 10 PRINCESS ANNE HIGH SCHOOL VIRGINIA BEACH VA True 8.066298 6 443.0 0.27 11 MONTICELLO HIGH SCHOOL CHARLOTTESVILLE VA True 2.543143 3 237.0 0.25 12 CHRISTIANSBURG HIGH SCHOOL CHRISTIANSBURG VA True 1.009174 3 247.0 0.24 13 GEORGE MASON HIGH SCHOOL FALLS CHURCH VA True 9.283820 2 173.0 0.23 14 OAKTON HIGH SCHOOL VIENNA VA True 24.013871 6 552.0 0.22 15 LOUDOUN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL LEESBURG VA True 6.822742 4 368.0 0.22 16 ALBEMARLE HIGH SCHOOL CHARLOTTESVILLE VA True 7.142857 5 479.0 0.21 17 TABB HIGH SCHOOL YORKTOWN VA True 7.002562 3 281.0 0.21 18 WOODROW WILSON HIGH SCHOOL PORTSMOUTH VA True 0.733676 3 295.0 0.20 19 LAKE BRADDOCK SECONDARY BURKE VA True 19.576980 6 625.0 0.19 20 HAMPTON HIGH SCHOOL HAMPTON VA True 3.688799 3 324.0 0.19 21 WASHINGTON & LEE HIGH SCHOOL MONTROSS VA True 0.785855 1 114.0 0.18 22 ESSEX HIGH SCHOOL TAPPAHANNOCK VA True 1.050420 1 121.0 0.17 23 WESTERN ALBEMARLE HIGH SCHOOL CROZET VA True 2.879079 2 248.0 0.16 24 STONE BRIDGE HIGH SCHOOL ASHBURN VA True 12.432432 3 409.0 0.15 25 JOHN HANDLEY HIGH SCHOOL WINCHESTER VA True 2.327515 2 273.0 0.15 26 OCEAN LAKES HIGH SCHOOL VIRGINIA BEACH VA True 6.420765 4 567.0 0.14 27 GRAFTON HIGH SCHOOL YORKTOWN VA True 7.660283 2 283.0 0.14 28 KETTLE RUN HIGH SCHOOL NOKESVILLE VA True 1.451613 2 290.0 0.14 29 NOTTOWAY HIGH SCHOOL CREWE VA True 0.465116 1 147.0 0.14 30 STRASBURG HIGH SCHOOL STRASBURG VA True 0.471698 1 141.0 0.14 31 OSBOURN PARK HIGH SCHOOL MANASSAS VA True 10.165138 4 625.0 0.13 32 BROAD RUN HIGH SCHOOL ASHBURN VA True 17.814855 3 476.0 0.13 33 EDISON HIGH SCHOOL ALEXANDRIA VA True 13.408974 3 447.0 0.13 34 TUSCARORA HIGH SCHOOL LEESBURG VA True 9.469892 3 446.0 0.13 35 E.C. GLASS HIGH SCHOOL LYNCHBURG VA True 1.416431 2 318.0 0.13 36 RICHLANDS HIGH SCHOOL RICHLANDS VA True 0.890208 1 151.0 0.13 37 SOUTH COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL LORTON VA True 18.249534 3 516.0 0.12 38 HENRICO HIGH SCHOOL RICHMOND VA True 8.802817 2 327.0 0.12 39 WARWICK HIGH SCHOOL NEWPORT NEWS VA True 4.452297 2 340.0 0.12 40 TC WILLIAMS HIGH SCHOOL ALEXANDRIA VA True 5.252641 4 747.0 0.11 41 C.D. HYLTON HIGH SCHOOL WOODBRIDGE VA True 6.255077 3 565.0 0.11 42 YORKTOWN HIGH SCHOOL ARLINGTON VA True 7.759959 3 531.0 0.11

Right so this just confirms neither school is a feeder to these elite schools.

Not much to say. They are just two mediocre-plus high schools.

That also applied to McLean and Langley. Not feeders to elite schools and just mediocre-plus hs.

A wise person once told me, don't waste time with Arlingotn high schools. Go to Fairfax.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is another data point for you, which might or might not be relevant.

average %of seniors accepted into Harvard, Princeton, and MIT from 2015-2020

name city state public %asian acceptances seniors %accepted 0 THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL ALEXANDRIA VA True 59.560440 136 423.0 6.43 1 CHARLOTTESVILLE HIGH SCHOOL CHARLOTTESVILLE VA True 7.294317 13 284.0 0.92 2 JAMESTOWN HIGH SCHOOL WILLIAMSBURG VA True 2.589490 7 299.0 0.47 3 BLACKSBURG HIGH SCHOOL BLACKSBURG VA True 6.445993 6 262.0 0.46 4 MCLEAN HIGH SCHOOL MCLEAN VA True 20.608108 11 486.0 0.45 5 MADISON HIGH SCHOOL VIENNA VA True 12.295082 9 478.0 0.38 6 LANGLEY HIGH SCHOOL MCLEAN VA True 21.272366 9 509.0 0.35 7 RADFORD HIGH SCHOOL RADFORD VA True 1.632653 2 123.0 0.33 8 WEST SPRINGFIELD HIGH SCHOOL SPRINGFIELD VA True 15.140845 9 620.0 0.29 9 WASHINGTON LEE HIGH SCHOOL ARLINGTON VA True 10.022173 7 496.0 0.28 10 PRINCESS ANNE HIGH SCHOOL VIRGINIA BEACH VA True 8.066298 6 443.0 0.27 11 MONTICELLO HIGH SCHOOL CHARLOTTESVILLE VA True 2.543143 3 237.0 0.25 12 CHRISTIANSBURG HIGH SCHOOL CHRISTIANSBURG VA True 1.009174 3 247.0 0.24 13 GEORGE MASON HIGH SCHOOL FALLS CHURCH VA True 9.283820 2 173.0 0.23 14 OAKTON HIGH SCHOOL VIENNA VA True 24.013871 6 552.0 0.22 15 LOUDOUN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL LEESBURG VA True 6.822742 4 368.0 0.22 16 ALBEMARLE HIGH SCHOOL CHARLOTTESVILLE VA True 7.142857 5 479.0 0.21 17 TABB HIGH SCHOOL YORKTOWN VA True 7.002562 3 281.0 0.21 18 WOODROW WILSON HIGH SCHOOL PORTSMOUTH VA True 0.733676 3 295.0 0.20 19 LAKE BRADDOCK SECONDARY BURKE VA True 19.576980 6 625.0 0.19 20 HAMPTON HIGH SCHOOL HAMPTON VA True 3.688799 3 324.0 0.19 21 WASHINGTON & LEE HIGH SCHOOL MONTROSS VA True 0.785855 1 114.0 0.18 22 ESSEX HIGH SCHOOL TAPPAHANNOCK VA True 1.050420 1 121.0 0.17 23 WESTERN ALBEMARLE HIGH SCHOOL CROZET VA True 2.879079 2 248.0 0.16 24 STONE BRIDGE HIGH SCHOOL ASHBURN VA True 12.432432 3 409.0 0.15 25 JOHN HANDLEY HIGH SCHOOL WINCHESTER VA True 2.327515 2 273.0 0.15 26 OCEAN LAKES HIGH SCHOOL VIRGINIA BEACH VA True 6.420765 4 567.0 0.14 27 GRAFTON HIGH SCHOOL YORKTOWN VA True 7.660283 2 283.0 0.14 28 KETTLE RUN HIGH SCHOOL NOKESVILLE VA True 1.451613 2 290.0 0.14 29 NOTTOWAY HIGH SCHOOL CREWE VA True 0.465116 1 147.0 0.14 30 STRASBURG HIGH SCHOOL STRASBURG VA True 0.471698 1 141.0 0.14 31 OSBOURN PARK HIGH SCHOOL MANASSAS VA True 10.165138 4 625.0 0.13 32 BROAD RUN HIGH SCHOOL ASHBURN VA True 17.814855 3 476.0 0.13 33 EDISON HIGH SCHOOL ALEXANDRIA VA True 13.408974 3 447.0 0.13 34 TUSCARORA HIGH SCHOOL LEESBURG VA True 9.469892 3 446.0 0.13 35 E.C. GLASS HIGH SCHOOL LYNCHBURG VA True 1.416431 2 318.0 0.13 36 RICHLANDS HIGH SCHOOL RICHLANDS VA True 0.890208 1 151.0 0.13 37 SOUTH COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL LORTON VA True 18.249534 3 516.0 0.12 38 HENRICO HIGH SCHOOL RICHMOND VA True 8.802817 2 327.0 0.12 39 WARWICK HIGH SCHOOL NEWPORT NEWS VA True 4.452297 2 340.0 0.12 40 TC WILLIAMS HIGH SCHOOL ALEXANDRIA VA True 5.252641 4 747.0 0.11 41 C.D. HYLTON HIGH SCHOOL WOODBRIDGE VA True 6.255077 3 565.0 0.11 42 YORKTOWN HIGH SCHOOL ARLINGTON VA True 7.759959 3 531.0 0.11

Right so this just confirms neither school is a feeder to these elite schools.

Not much to say. They are just two mediocre-plus high schools.

If your kid gets a WL spot for IB, and they decide not to do full IB, they can’t stay. Back to your home school they go. I have kids at 2 different APS high schools and they are both getting a good education. If your child is a motivated student who will be taking intensified and AP classes, they will be well served at either school. IB has much more writing.

Why do you all think we are aiming for HYP? we just want a solid education, and aren’t sold on IB. Hence comparing the two schools on that front. Hearing about limitations and positives of IB has been useful too.

Our DC is leaning to W&M or UVA as reach, then maybe end up at a LAC if we find the money. Ivy League, we parents did that and know it’s not the path for our kids.

Thank you. It’s so much more about the applicant than the school.

I’m sorry. Do you all have Hugh schoolers looking at colleges? To think that going to Yorktown vs WL vs Mclean is going to make the difference for your kid going into HYP schools is just ridiculous. The kids going to these schools right now have perfect or near-perfect SAT/ACT, crazy great extracurriculars, top top grades in the most academically challenging course load. It’s more on your kid than the school. None of these schools can make it possible for your kid to go to an Ivy unless your kid is doing their part. And their part is 99.9999% of it happening. Not the school.

The full IB is not a great program for STEM students. Very limiting and only provides Physics SL not HL (higher level). And you kinda have to take the History of Americas HL because they don't offer an SL.

Are kids who do full IB able to take dual enrollment classes like multivariable calc or advanced comp sci? Having those classes available is nice for kids on the AP track. Seems like IB might be limiting in that respect if the answer is no.

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this has already been mentioned but something to consider - I heard certain colleges will expect you to have taken the highest level classes offered at your school. So if your child wants to do AP, but not IB, Yorktown might be the better option, if that is something that's going to be important down the line.

Is IB considered higher level than AP?

Not really. IB is usually introduced at failing schools.

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Anonymous wrote:We are looking at two neighborhoods for homes, and they are zoned for these two different schools. We have looked into both, and it seems that WL is Considered more academically rigorous, but DS is not interested in pursuing an IB, but would prefer to do AP courses. How does the academics compare between the two schools when you don’t follow the IB path. DS is not sporty, really just likes school and academics, kind of a nerd. Will he be bullied at Yorktown?

Also, they seem to be planning to increase WL to 3000 students, Yorktown is 2300. Well that increase the student population affect the schools performance? It’s a big jump. Did they add more cafeteria space and field space?

I have had students at both, although my W-L student was full IB. YHS has a very bro culture, lots of entitlement; it's not for the faint of heart, or for a family that values kindness over stuff or "winning." Your student will find a space at W-L that suits him; he may not at YHS.

My understanding is that the AP offerings are the same at both schools.

It’s clear to me that the WL 10 years ago was a better school for us; I’m not convinced supersized WL will be. Even the superintendent is realizing they made a mistake, but I guess there is no plan to roll back. With nearly 3000 kids, you could never see the same kids year to year in class and clubs will be huge. Finding your place got harder.

Bro culture sounds rough too, maybe we need to consider FCPS, though we commute to work and wanted to avoid the pressure cooker FCPS can be.

Or, you could consider Wakefield. There are good options other than Yorktown and WL in Arlington.

What is the most rigorous academic path at Wakefield. It seemed similar to Yorktown, no IB, but with a real overcrowding issue that doesn’t seem will be fixed soon and worsen as National Landing grows.

Anonymous wrote:Here is another data point for you, which might or might not be relevant.

average %of seniors accepted into Harvard, Princeton, and MIT from 2015-2020

name city state public %asian acceptances seniors %accepted 0 THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL ALEXANDRIA VA True 59.560440 136 423.0 6.43 1 CHARLOTTESVILLE HIGH SCHOOL CHARLOTTESVILLE VA True 7.294317 13 284.0 0.92 2 JAMESTOWN HIGH SCHOOL WILLIAMSBURG VA True 2.589490 7 299.0 0.47 3 BLACKSBURG HIGH SCHOOL BLACKSBURG VA True 6.445993 6 262.0 0.46 4 MCLEAN HIGH SCHOOL MCLEAN VA True 20.608108 11 486.0 0.45 5 MADISON HIGH SCHOOL VIENNA VA True 12.295082 9 478.0 0.38 6 LANGLEY HIGH SCHOOL MCLEAN VA True 21.272366 9 509.0 0.35 7 RADFORD HIGH SCHOOL RADFORD VA True 1.632653 2 123.0 0.33 8 WEST SPRINGFIELD HIGH SCHOOL SPRINGFIELD VA True 15.140845 9 620.0 0.29 9 WASHINGTON LEE HIGH SCHOOL ARLINGTON VA True 10.022173 7 496.0 0.28 10 PRINCESS ANNE HIGH SCHOOL VIRGINIA BEACH VA True 8.066298 6 443.0 0.27 11 MONTICELLO HIGH SCHOOL CHARLOTTESVILLE VA True 2.543143 3 237.0 0.25 12 CHRISTIANSBURG HIGH SCHOOL CHRISTIANSBURG VA True 1.009174 3 247.0 0.24 13 GEORGE MASON HIGH SCHOOL FALLS CHURCH VA True 9.283820 2 173.0 0.23 14 OAKTON HIGH SCHOOL VIENNA VA True 24.013871 6 552.0 0.22 15 LOUDOUN COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL LEESBURG VA True 6.822742 4 368.0 0.22 16 ALBEMARLE HIGH SCHOOL CHARLOTTESVILLE VA True 7.142857 5 479.0 0.21 17 TABB HIGH SCHOOL YORKTOWN VA True 7.002562 3 281.0 0.21 18 WOODROW WILSON HIGH SCHOOL PORTSMOUTH VA True 0.733676 3 295.0 0.20 19 LAKE BRADDOCK SECONDARY BURKE VA True 19.576980 6 625.0 0.19 20 HAMPTON HIGH SCHOOL HAMPTON VA True 3.688799 3 324.0 0.19 21 WASHINGTON & LEE HIGH SCHOOL MONTROSS VA True 0.785855 1 114.0 0.18 22 ESSEX HIGH SCHOOL TAPPAHANNOCK VA True 1.050420 1 121.0 0.17 23 WESTERN ALBEMARLE HIGH SCHOOL CROZET VA True 2.879079 2 248.0 0.16 24 STONE BRIDGE HIGH SCHOOL ASHBURN VA True 12.432432 3 409.0 0.15 25 JOHN HANDLEY HIGH SCHOOL WINCHESTER VA True 2.327515 2 273.0 0.15 26 OCEAN LAKES HIGH SCHOOL VIRGINIA BEACH VA True 6.420765 4 567.0 0.14 27 GRAFTON HIGH SCHOOL YORKTOWN VA True 7.660283 2 283.0 0.14 28 KETTLE RUN HIGH SCHOOL NOKESVILLE VA True 1.451613 2 290.0 0.14 29 NOTTOWAY HIGH SCHOOL CREWE VA True 0.465116 1 147.0 0.14 30 STRASBURG HIGH SCHOOL STRASBURG VA True 0.471698 1 141.0 0.14 31 OSBOURN PARK HIGH SCHOOL MANASSAS VA True 10.165138 4 625.0 0.13 32 BROAD RUN HIGH SCHOOL ASHBURN VA True 17.814855 3 476.0 0.13 33 EDISON HIGH SCHOOL ALEXANDRIA VA True 13.408974 3 447.0 0.13 34 TUSCARORA HIGH SCHOOL LEESBURG VA True 9.469892 3 446.0 0.13 35 E.C. GLASS HIGH SCHOOL LYNCHBURG VA True 1.416431 2 318.0 0.13 36 RICHLANDS HIGH SCHOOL RICHLANDS VA True 0.890208 1 151.0 0.13 37 SOUTH COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL LORTON VA True 18.249534 3 516.0 0.12 38 HENRICO HIGH SCHOOL RICHMOND VA True 8.802817 2 327.0 0.12 39 WARWICK HIGH SCHOOL NEWPORT NEWS VA True 4.452297 2 340.0 0.12 40 TC WILLIAMS HIGH SCHOOL ALEXANDRIA VA True 5.252641 4 747.0 0.11 41 C.D. HYLTON HIGH SCHOOL WOODBRIDGE VA True 6.255077 3 565.0 0.11 42 YORKTOWN HIGH SCHOOL ARLINGTON VA True 7.759959 3 531.0 0.11

Right so this just confirms neither school is a feeder to these elite schools.