Anonymous
Post 01/31/2022 17:49     Subject: Re:Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:(note: I was right. Former Soviet emigre.)

I grew up with a lot of kids who got out from behind the iron curtain in the 80s. I don't mean this to denigrate their struggles. But it is notable how many Cato and Federalist people fall into the former Soviet category, is what I am saying.

A conservative optimist might say that's because so many of them appreciate America, knowing what they left behind. I wish that was actually true. As a realist, looking at actions and intent, the truth seems far more cynical and calculated. They are the children of propaganda and autocrats. It's what Ilya gravitates toward because it is what he knows.


You sound like Amy Wax talking about Asian students. This is just bigoted from beginning to end.

FYI Amy Wax also talks like that about Black students.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2022 17:48     Subject: Re:Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown put him on administrative leave.

Yup. “Incoming” indeed.
Incoming Georgetown Law official placed on administrative leave for tweets about Supreme Court pick
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/01/31/georgetown-law-ilya-shapiro-administrative-leave/
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2022 17:42     Subject: Re:Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Georgetown put him on administrative leave.


Good. Actions have consequences.

Keep your racist comments to yourselves, RWNJs.


How is calling out Joe Biden’s obvious racism, racist?

Please explain that?


He’s no more racist/sexist that his predecessors who considered gender/race for nominations.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2022 17:27     Subject: Re:Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Georgetown put him on administrative leave.


Good. Actions have consequences.

Keep your racist comments to yourselves, RWNJs.


How is calling out Joe Biden’s obvious racism, racist?

Please explain that?
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2022 17:10     Subject: Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic

Has he said whether he thinks Amy Coney Barrett is a lesser woman judge yet?
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2022 14:59     Subject: Re:Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown put him on administrative leave.

Thanks because instead of keeping a low profile until it blew over and people forgot, he doubled down which forced Georgetown to respond. The dean is probably mad at him because he made him look like a fool two times over.

If he can keep his mouth shut until June, he’ll be back. They may try force some fake contrition out of him to demonstrate “collegiality” or whatever. The question though is whether he’s angling to self-martyr himself for a lucrative future on the right wing book tour and paid lecture circuit.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2022 14:48     Subject: Re:Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic

Anonymous wrote:(note: I was right. Former Soviet emigre.)

I grew up with a lot of kids who got out from behind the iron curtain in the 80s. I don't mean this to denigrate their struggles. But it is notable how many Cato and Federalist people fall into the former Soviet category, is what I am saying.

A conservative optimist might say that's because so many of them appreciate America, knowing what they left behind. I wish that was actually true. As a realist, looking at actions and intent, the truth seems far more cynical and calculated. They are the children of propaganda and autocrats. It's what Ilya gravitates toward because it is what he knows.


You sound like Amy Wax talking about Asian students. This is just bigoted from beginning to end.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2022 14:24     Subject: Re:Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown put him on administrative leave.


Good. Actions have consequences.

Keep your racist comments to yourselves, RWNJs.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2022 14:22     Subject: Re:Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic

Georgetown put him on administrative leave.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 13:59     Subject: Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic

Georgetown tanked their reputation sadly.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 07:02     Subject: Re:Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please. Stop whining. Yer man tanked his political career. I bet even Cato will dump him soon.

He tanked his reputation. His career will be fine. Georgetown won’t recind their offer, although I’m sure they hope he decides not to come. As long as he has got Koch money behind him, he will always find a home.


I'm not even sure that he tanked his reputation. The 'affirmative action for me but not for thee' conservatives have no problem with what he said. And I'm not sure there are that many people on the left who know him and think he's a brilliant guy.

Even if GTown did rescind his offer, he'd just become a right wing media star because he was 'cancelled' and probably be the president of Hillsdale this time next year.

He’s tanked his reputation in the legal profession at the very least, which is actually quite a big deal in those circles. You don’t see a lot of prominent legal scholars defending him and the obvious reason is that nobody wants to be professionally associated as supporting someone who has made what are now well known racist public statements about two Supreme Court judges. They would fear potential damage to their own careers. I imagine he’s getting a lot of private messages of support, but the only public supper he’s getting is from partisan media.

Similarly, Georgetown is in a tough spot now. They won’t rescind, but they screwed themselves reputationally with a significant group of people who the school would like to visit for lectures and place their graduates in clerkships with.

But otherwise, he’s set himself up for lifetime employment in right wing circles.


You don't see them defending him because he made those comments a couple of days ago. Let see where things are at a month from now or even two weeks from now or even this time next week. I guarantee they will have all moved on and things will be back to normal.

To fair, I'm sure a handful of conservatives do *genuinely* disapprove of his comments. But in reality most just don't want to be associated with someone currently getting large scale blowback (even if they agree with him).

His prior comments about Sotomayor clearly had no negative impact...I mean he got the GTown position after all, and it was clearly not an issue. And although this just reveals the racism on the right (and the swampiness of the DC left), it is what it is.

Ilya will be fine. However, hopefully he does speak in an open forum at GTown where his views are challenged - and someone asks him to clarify whether he believes Coney Barrett is a 'lesser' appointment given Trump declared his was going to appoint a woman and there were clearly conservative white men more qualified than she was.

He got the Georgetown position because they did zero due diligence and were only looking at him with dollars signs in their eyes. He is expected to bring money. If he doesn’t bring big money, he won’t be there for long.

These “institutes” are not for serious legal work. They are for organizing conferences, panels, lectures, etc. Because only right wing hacks are going to be invited or attend, they will be of limited utility to the legal academy or enhancing education for students. Instead, again, the purpose is put on a show for people that want to empty their pockets and plow more money into this con game.

There was perhaps a chance that he pull this off with some involvement of faculty. Any actual faculty that get involved with this guy will be putting their career in legitimate jeopardy because he’s someone that has been quite clear and consistent in his view that people of color and women in particular who obtain elite legal educations are unqualified. This is Amy Wax all over again and Georgetown is in DC and not Philly.

So he’s going to do his thing and he’ll be pretty ostracized and segregated while doing it and if he doesn’t excel at fundraising, he’ll be gone very quickly.

However, you can be rest assured that the one thing he’s never going to do is explain himself. Because he’s a coward. All racists are.

Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 00:22     Subject: Re:Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please. Stop whining. Yer man tanked his political career. I bet even Cato will dump him soon.

He tanked his reputation. His career will be fine. Georgetown won’t recind their offer, although I’m sure they hope he decides not to come. As long as he has got Koch money behind him, he will always find a home.


I'm not even sure that he tanked his reputation. The 'affirmative action for me but not for thee' conservatives have no problem with what he said. And I'm not sure there are that many people on the left who know him and think he's a brilliant guy.

Even if GTown did rescind his offer, he'd just become a right wing media star because he was 'cancelled' and probably be the president of Hillsdale this time next year.

He’s tanked his reputation in the legal profession at the very least, which is actually quite a big deal in those circles. You don’t see a lot of prominent legal scholars defending him and the obvious reason is that nobody wants to be professionally associated as supporting someone who has made what are now well known racist public statements about two Supreme Court judges. They would fear potential damage to their own careers. I imagine he’s getting a lot of private messages of support, but the only public supper he’s getting is from partisan media.

Similarly, Georgetown is in a tough spot now. They won’t rescind, but they screwed themselves reputationally with a significant group of people who the school would like to visit for lectures and place their graduates in clerkships with.

But otherwise, he’s set himself up for lifetime employment in right wing circles.


You don't see them defending him because he made those comments a couple of days ago. Let see where things are at a month from now or even two weeks from now or even this time next week. I guarantee they will have all moved on and things will be back to normal.

To fair, I'm sure a handful of conservatives do *genuinely* disapprove of his comments. But in reality most just don't want to be associated with someone currently getting large scale blowback (even if they agree with him).

His prior comments about Sotomayor clearly had no negative impact...I mean he got the GTown position after all, and it was clearly not an issue. And although this just reveals the racism on the right (and the swampiness of the DC left), it is what it is.

Ilya will be fine. However, hopefully he does speak in an open forum at GTown where his views are challenged - and someone asks him to clarify whether he believes Coney Barrett is a 'lesser' appointment given Trump declared his was going to appoint a woman and there were clearly conservative white men more qualified than she was.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2022 23:12     Subject: Re:Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please. Stop whining. Yer man tanked his political career. I bet even Cato will dump him soon.

He tanked his reputation. His career will be fine. Georgetown won’t recind their offer, although I’m sure they hope he decides not to come. As long as he has got Koch money behind him, he will always find a home.


I'm not even sure that he tanked his reputation. The 'affirmative action for me but not for thee' conservatives have no problem with what he said. And I'm not sure there are that many people on the left who know him and think he's a brilliant guy.

Even if GTown did rescind his offer, he'd just become a right wing media star because he was 'cancelled' and probably be the president of Hillsdale this time next year.

He’s tanked his reputation in the legal profession at the very least, which is actually quite a big deal in those circles. You don’t see a lot of prominent legal scholars defending him and the obvious reason is that nobody wants to be professionally associated as supporting someone who has made what are now well known racist public statements about two Supreme Court judges. They would fear potential damage to their own careers. I imagine he’s getting a lot of private messages of support, but the only public supper he’s getting is from partisan media.

Similarly, Georgetown is in a tough spot now. They won’t rescind, but they screwed themselves reputationally with a significant group of people who the school would like to visit for lectures and place their graduates in clerkships with.

But otherwise, he’s set himself up for lifetime employment in right wing circles.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2022 22:55     Subject: Re:Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic

Anonymous wrote:Please. Stop whining. Yer man tanked his political career. I bet even Cato will dump him soon.


+1

He's a liability.
Anonymous
Post 01/29/2022 22:43     Subject: Turns out the Falls Church school board guy from the Koch thinktank, Ilya Shapiro, really is toxic

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You want racism? Racism is saying you'll only consider people with ____color skin for a role.

+1000


+10,000.

“Asians need not apply.”

- Biden