Anonymous
Post 01/14/2022 08:47     Subject: Where can I move that is warmer, slightly cheaper, somewhat liberal with good schools?
Agree with PPs who recommended Austin. It’s like a liberal oasis in Texas. Not cheap, but cheaper than here and really a fun place with great food.
Anonymous
Post 01/14/2022 01:44     Subject: Where can I move that is warmer, slightly cheaper, somewhat liberal with good schools?
Anonymous wrote:You can look for higher education -- for instance, Gainesville is a liberal island in the middle of rural north Florida. Very international, educated, liberal, but they like their football!

There are also more blue areas in some red/purple states. For instance, southern Arizona (minus Sierra Vista) is way more blue than the Pheonix area. For instance, Trump did worse in Pima County AZ than he did in Frederick or Arundel Counties in MD. That's more than slighly more warm than here, but you get the picture -- there are lots of liberal towns/cities even within states that are red. And I think when you get out west, religion is much less of a factor than it is in the South and Midwest, so people tend to be more liberal about people's personal lives.




This!

Check out tucson for sure

Omaha, Nebraska too!
Anonymous
Post 01/14/2022 01:00     Subject: Where can I move that is warmer, slightly cheaper, somewhat liberal with good schools?
Anne Arundel County wins for water and schools. Annapolis is pretty blue. Severna Park and Arnold have a reputation for being Republican but still actually lean slightly blue. The water is amazing and beautiful. Even though people think of this area as expensive it’s significantly cheaper than DC. Not warmer though but much better summers than DC.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2022 22:30     Subject: Re:Where can I move that is warmer, slightly cheaper, somewhat liberal with good schools?
Anonymous wrote:
HA. I beg to differ.
There is no price on waking up to 70 degrees in January, going to the beach, not shoveling snow, driving on ice, or worrying about snow days, outdoor recess, etc.
Moving somewhere with better weather (I obviously define better weather as lack of winter) impacts every aspect of my day and life, positively.
I'd rather be surrounded by better weather rather than "the most educated" and anxious/neurotic people in the country.


Then you wake up and see your neighbor with a lifted 2008 Ford F350 and an after market exhaust that sounds like a jet engine with Lets Go Brandon stickers on the back..


Even that I could ignore. What really terrifies me is the prospect of waking up to see the state legislature put out a $10,000 bounty for that neighbor to snitch on my daughter getting an abortion. Or that the governor refuses to implement even the most basic restrictions during the middle of a deadly pandemic. Or that the board of education dumbed down the curriculum yet again to prevent teaching critical thinking, or to whitewash history in the name of preventing "critical race theory," or to promote religion in schools.

Individuals who think and act differently than me are fine, governments that systemically dismantle society are not.


PREACH!
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2022 22:27     Subject: Where can I move that is warmer, slightly cheaper, somewhat liberal with good schools?
Charlotte is OK if you can be fine with boring
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2022 21:34     Subject: Where can I move that is warmer, slightly cheaper, somewhat liberal with good schools?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Liberal
Warm
Low cost of living.

Pick 2. You can't have all 3


Unfortunately this.


Sadly, true. If you can accept three months of serious winter (Jan-March), Rochester, NY would be great. The suburb of Brighton, in particular, is very liberal with excellent public schools, and minimal pressure/drama. Housing prices are ridiculously low compared to the DC area (though higher property taxes eat some of that savings.)


yea the weather is opposite of warm-- but this is my hometown and my partner and I frequently discuss moving there. We could buy a house in cash for the price that our home has increased since 2020. Quality of life is excellent-- everything is just easy and close.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2022 21:30     Subject: Re:Where can I move that is warmer, slightly cheaper, somewhat liberal with good schools?
College towns for sure. The state most likely won’t be liberal but the town will. Usually good public schools too.

Gainesville, FL (I lived there and went to UF for grad school) great town
Athens, GA
Knoxville, TN
Tallahassee, FL

and nice little towns but less likely to be liberal…
Oxford, MS
Tuscaloosa, AL
Clemson, SC

Also savannah, GA and Charleston, SC maybe
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2022 18:34     Subject: Re:Where can I move that is warmer, slightly cheaper, somewhat liberal with good schools?
Anonymous wrote:+1 Durham. It still snows every once in a while, but it’s warmer. The summers are worse than here though.



Where's the water?
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2022 18:07     Subject: Re:Where can I move that is warmer, slightly cheaper, somewhat liberal with good schools?
Austin! Not cheap but lower COL than here.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2022 17:37     Subject: Where can I move that is warmer, slightly cheaper, somewhat liberal with good schools?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I suggest either St. John's County (St. Augustine) or Sarasota County (40 min south of Tampa) which have the top two FL school districts according to Niche, they also appear on other top schools lists.

The price of housing is skyrocketing in FL because so many people, both red and blue, are moving there. However, relatively cheap housing can still be found in these areas if you are comparing to the DC area.

Despite many ignorant opinions to the contrary on DCUM I find FL to be a delightful place to live and I am staunchly democrat. Like other states (Virginia for example) the rural areas are almost completely red and the urban areas are almost completely blue. Registered Republicans in FL just recently started to barely outnumber registered Democrats after many years of the opposite. So it's pretty purple basically.

With the warm climate, decent schools in certain areas, and lower COL it's not too tough to ignore or tolerate whatever politics or political opinions you have a problem with and just live your own life.


Don't know about the Sarasota County schools, but the idea that St. Johns County schools are the best in Florida is horrifying. I have family that lives there, and those schools are atrocious. The St. Johns County school system wold probably be the worst school system between Baltimore and Richmond.


You are a bitter, spiteful liar. What's #1 on this list? https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-school-districts/s/florida/

No one is disputing that they are good schools relative to the other schools in Florida.


St Johns is good overall. There are good quality schools in FL. I am from FL. But they are magnets or in ritzy areas. The areas of St Johns that are the wealthiest have good schools which honest is the same as Langley. Kids graduate if they put the effort and attend national schools. There’s drugs and bad influences in every “good public school”. So maybe you just know the losers from certain schools.

Sarasota has one top school but it’s for gifted kids. If you make it there, then you’re gold. But it’s not public. There’s good ones in West Palm and every major city in FL. Average schools aren’t great. But no they aren’t Baltimore material.


I believe you are referring in the bolded above to Pine View School. It is definitely public but is also a magnet school. 33% minoirty population and 11% economically disadvantaged. Much more reflective of general population than TJ in VA for instance, 79% minority (70% Asian) and 2% economically disadvantaged. There are some other very good schools in Sarasota County as well. And as in all of Florida there are also some good privates in the area.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/florida/districts/sarasota-county-schools/pine-view-school-5549#students_teachers_section
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2022 17:28     Subject: Where can I move that is warmer, slightly cheaper, somewhat liberal with good schools?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I suggest either St. John's County (St. Augustine) or Sarasota County (40 min south of Tampa) which have the top two FL school districts according to Niche, they also appear on other top schools lists.

The price of housing is skyrocketing in FL because so many people, both red and blue, are moving there. However, relatively cheap housing can still be found in these areas if you are comparing to the DC area.

Despite many ignorant opinions to the contrary on DCUM I find FL to be a delightful place to live and I am staunchly democrat. Like other states (Virginia for example) the rural areas are almost completely red and the urban areas are almost completely blue. Registered Republicans in FL just recently started to barely outnumber registered Democrats after many years of the opposite. So it's pretty purple basically.

With the warm climate, decent schools in certain areas, and lower COL it's not too tough to ignore or tolerate whatever politics or political opinions you have a problem with and just live your own life.


Don't know about the Sarasota County schools, but the idea that St. Johns County schools are the best in Florida is horrifying. I have family that lives there, and those schools are atrocious. The St. Johns County school system wold probably be the worst school system between Baltimore and Richmond.


You are a bitter, spiteful liar. What's #1 on this list? https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-school-districts/s/florida/

No one is disputing that they are good schools relative to the other schools in Florida.


According to the US News ranking of high schools in the US nine are in Florida compared to one in DC, one in VA and none in MD.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2022 16:10     Subject: Where can I move that is warmer, slightly cheaper, somewhat liberal with good schools?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If liberal states/localities are run so poorly why are they always the ones who fund the more conservative areas (with a few exceptions)? Most of the southeast would wither away with the dollars from the liberal states.


From your perch at CBO you seem to know everything. Care to post stats.

I’m not the one you are questioning, but here’s some information on net takers. Most of the top takers are red states. https://www.moneygeek.com/living/states-most-reliant-federal-government/
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2022 15:48     Subject: Where can I move that is warmer, slightly cheaper, somewhat liberal with good schools?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I suggest either St. John's County (St. Augustine) or Sarasota County (40 min south of Tampa) which have the top two FL school districts according to Niche, they also appear on other top schools lists.

The price of housing is skyrocketing in FL because so many people, both red and blue, are moving there. However, relatively cheap housing can still be found in these areas if you are comparing to the DC area.

Despite many ignorant opinions to the contrary on DCUM I find FL to be a delightful place to live and I am staunchly democrat. Like other states (Virginia for example) the rural areas are almost completely red and the urban areas are almost completely blue. Registered Republicans in FL just recently started to barely outnumber registered Democrats after many years of the opposite. So it's pretty purple basically.

With the warm climate, decent schools in certain areas, and lower COL it's not too tough to ignore or tolerate whatever politics or political opinions you have a problem with and just live your own life.


Don't know about the Sarasota County schools, but the idea that St. Johns County schools are the best in Florida is horrifying. I have family that lives there, and those schools are atrocious. The St. Johns County school system wold probably be the worst school system between Baltimore and Richmond.


You are a bitter, spiteful liar. What's #1 on this list? https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-school-districts/s/florida/

No one is disputing that they are good schools relative to the other schools in Florida.


St Johns is good overall. There are good quality schools in FL. I am from FL. But they are magnets or in ritzy areas. The areas of St Johns that are the wealthiest have good schools which honest is the same as Langley. Kids graduate if they put the effort and attend national schools. There’s drugs and bad influences in every “good public school”. So maybe you just know the losers from certain schools.

Sarasota has one top school but it’s for gifted kids. If you make it there, then you’re gold. But it’s not public. There’s good ones in West Palm and every major city in FL. Average schools aren’t great. But no they aren’t Baltimore material.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2022 15:12     Subject: Re:Where can I move that is warmer, slightly cheaper, somewhat liberal with good schools?
Anonymous wrote:Where are these places with good weather year round? Most of the nice places to go to in the winter are stifling in the summer.
I'd rather put up with cold in winter and somewhat nice in summer. Better the devil you know...


Southern California and...?

There are places where the weather is better but not San Diego better. Asheville get cold in the winter but like "frost in the morning, light jacket in the afternoon" cold. Seattle gets grey and drizzly in the winter but rarely has a hard freeze. The mountainous regions of NM and AZ don't get oppressively hot in the summer.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2022 15:03     Subject: Re:Where can I move that is warmer, slightly cheaper, somewhat liberal with good schools?
Where are these places with good weather year round? Most of the nice places to go to in the winter are stifling in the summer.
I'd rather put up with cold in winter and somewhat nice in summer. Better the devil you know...