Anonymous
01/10/2022 21:06
Subject: Re:Sister-in-Law Says Former House Speaker Lee Chatfield (R-MI) Raped Her for Years, Beginning at 15-yo
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5390-Rustic-Rd-Petoskey-MI-49770/106341288_zpid/
On 10 acres. This would be a $2+ million property here, if you could even find it.
Anonymous
01/10/2022 19:49
Subject: Re:Sister-in-Law Says Former House Speaker Lee Chatfield (R-MI) Raped Her for Years, Beginning at 15-yo
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
How the hell is Chatfield only 33?!? He was leader of the MI House in his friggin 20s.
I will say one thing about Republicans - they promote from within at a very young age. They have a singular focus on leadership development. Democrats need to take a page from this, minus the rape and molestation
Term limits brought in all sorts of dipsh*ts. Can only serve in the State House for max 3 terms or 6 years total. Most try to then segue to State Senate for max 2 terms or 8 years total. And the pay is fairly low, around $75k. But if you can hang around for 6 to 14 years, you glide off into congress or some lobbyist or "nonprofit" executive role like he tried to do. He was handed a $400k-plus business nonprofit executive role, but media pressure made him step down.
It seems really obvious the dossier on this young dipsh*t was a mile long. Everyone knew he was a creep and living way too lavish and fast for a middle class Bible thumper. Seems he was a compromised puppet.
$75K + whatever the family is grifting from their church goes a long way in Petoskey.
I'm not so sure about that. Real estate is more expensive than you might expect for a northern MI city, especially for anything with lake frontage or lake view.
Oh heavens. I'm sure their religion requires them to have a lake view!
I was not defending this *sshole at all. Just countering the PPs suggestion that real estate is super cheap in Petoskey.
Anonymous
01/10/2022 19:19
Subject: Re:Sister-in-Law Says Former House Speaker Lee Chatfield (R-MI) Raped Her for Years, Beginning at 15-yo
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Tragic. Why did she marry his brother? THIS is not victim shaming, blaming or otherwise. It's a question to be pondered from a psychological perspective.
I didn't read any links. Maybe it was addressed.
She was a teenager in some sort of uber strict Evangelical school in UP Michigan. The Chatfield family ran the school. Needless to say, she was basically groomed as a child. She then went on to marry into the family, as often happens with teenage women in very conservative religious cultures. I'm not sure she even knew she had other options. Her parents probably heavily pressured her into the marriage.
I am from MI and follow politics there. This is one of the times where the parents didn't pressure. The mother and step father relocated to move away from the church, but the daughter, who was in HS at the time, did not want to go. Which kid in HS wants to move - coupled with being groomed - so sad.
The mother (who had been a member of the Chatfield church) trusted the Chatfields and the daughter did not want to be with the alcoholic father.
Anonymous
01/10/2022 19:05
Subject: Sister-in-Law Says Former House Speaker Lee Chatfield (R-MI) Raped Her for Years, Beginning at 15-yo
Anonymous wrote:This grooming is par for the course for these radical Christians. It is what they envision for all of the US. See their stand on "pro-life" and women as incubators.
And not to go OT with their "pro-life" obsession but Lee Chatfield's wife has publicly owned up to having an abortion as a teen, after a drunken whatever led to pregnancy. Hmm, interesting how that moral certitude plays out in real life.
Anonymous
01/10/2022 18:37
Subject: Re:Sister-in-Law Says Former House Speaker Lee Chatfield (R-MI) Raped Her for Years, Beginning at 15-yo
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tragic. Why did she marry his brother? THIS is not victim shaming, blaming or otherwise. It's a question to be pondered from a psychological perspective.
I didn't read any links. Maybe it was addressed.
It was discovered she and her boyfriend (Lee's little brother) were having premarital sex at age 19, thus they pressured by the Chatfield church to marry each other.
In the Bridge interview I believe she says she and the little brother didn't really want to get married that young and they were both frazzled the day of the pressured wedding. She says Lee isolated her to talk about the wedding and then forced her into a closet and it sounds like he made her give him oral sex. Then he left the room and said to paraphrase, "You're marrying my little brother," as in, it's happening, period.
Anonymous
01/10/2022 18:33
Subject: Re:Sister-in-Law Says Former House Speaker Lee Chatfield (R-MI) Raped Her for Years, Beginning at 15-yo
Anonymous wrote:Tragic. Why did she marry his brother? THIS is not victim shaming, blaming or otherwise. It's a question to be pondered from a psychological perspective.
I didn't read any links. Maybe it was addressed.
It was discovered she and her boyfriend (Lee's little brother) were having premarital sex at age 19, thus they pressured by the Chatfield church to marry each other.
Anonymous
01/10/2022 18:27
Subject: Re:Sister-in-Law Says Former House Speaker Lee Chatfield (R-MI) Raped Her for Years, Beginning at 15-yo
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tragic. Why did she marry his brother? THIS is not victim shaming, blaming or otherwise. It's a question to be pondered from a psychological perspective.
I didn't read any links. Maybe it was addressed.
She was a teenager in some sort of uber strict Evangelical school in UP Michigan. The Chatfield family ran the school. Needless to say, she was basically groomed as a child. She then went on to marry into the family, as often happens with teenage women in very conservative religious cultures. I'm not sure she even knew she had other options. Her parents probably heavily pressured her into the marriage.
I am from MI and follow politics there. This is one of the times where the parents didn't pressure. The mother and step father relocated to move away from the church, but the daughter, who was in HS at the time, did not want to go. Which kid in HS wants to move - coupled with being groomed - so sad.
The victim told Bridge in the interview that Lee (her teacher) and his father (the preacher/dean of the school) manipulated her and told her to disobey her parents and move in with the Lee family.
Anonymous
01/10/2022 17:28
Subject: Re:Sister-in-Law Says Former House Speaker Lee Chatfield (R-MI) Raped Her for Years, Beginning at 15-yo
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Tragic. Why did she marry his brother? THIS is not victim shaming, blaming or otherwise. It's a question to be pondered from a psychological perspective.
I didn't read any links. Maybe it was addressed.
She was a teenager in some sort of uber strict Evangelical school in UP Michigan. The Chatfield family ran the school. Needless to say, she was basically groomed as a child. She then went on to marry into the family, as often happens with teenage women in very conservative religious cultures. I'm not sure she even knew she had other options. Her parents probably heavily pressured her into the marriage.
I am from MI and follow politics there. This is one of the times where the parents didn't pressure. The mother and step father relocated to move away from the church, but the daughter, who was in HS at the time, did not want to go. Which kid in HS wants to move - coupled with being groomed - so sad.
Anonymous
01/10/2022 17:15
Subject: Sister-in-Law Says Former House Speaker Lee Chatfield (R-MI) Raped Her for Years, Beginning at 15-yo
This grooming is par for the course for these radical Christians. It is what they envision for all of the US. See their stand on "pro-life" and women as incubators.
Anonymous
01/10/2022 17:12
Subject: Re:Sister-in-Law Says Former House Speaker Lee Chatfield (R-MI) Raped Her for Years, Beginning at 15-yo
Anonymous wrote:Tragic. Why did she marry his brother? THIS is not victim shaming, blaming or otherwise. It's a question to be pondered from a psychological perspective.
I didn't read any links. Maybe it was addressed.
She was a teenager in some sort of uber strict Evangelical school in UP Michigan. The Chatfield family ran the school. Needless to say, she was basically groomed as a child. She then went on to marry into the family, as often happens with teenage women in very conservative religious cultures. I'm not sure she even knew she had other options. Her parents probably heavily pressured her into the marriage.
Anonymous
01/10/2022 17:08
Subject: Re:Sister-in-Law Says Former House Speaker Lee Chatfield (R-MI) Raped Her for Years, Beginning at 15-yo
Anonymous wrote:Tragic. Why did she marry his brother? THIS is not victim shaming, blaming or otherwise. It's a question to be pondered from a psychological perspective.
I didn't read any links. Maybe it was addressed.
She shouldn’t marry the man she loved because of his brother? What are you asking? In the last few years when rape and sexual assault were talked about so frequently, did you read anything about how victims respond or no?
Anonymous
01/10/2022 16:45
Subject: Re:Sister-in-Law Says Former House Speaker Lee Chatfield (R-MI) Raped Her for Years, Beginning at 15-yo
Tragic. Why did she marry his brother? THIS is not victim shaming, blaming or otherwise. It's a question to be pondered from a psychological perspective.
I didn't read any links. Maybe it was addressed.
I didn't read any links. Maybe it was addressed.
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