Anonymous wrote:Why is Yale and Princeton so low on the list?
Anonymous wrote:Some surprises in here:
1. Harvard
2. Stanford
3. UPenn
4. Columbia
5. NYU
6. MIT
7. Northwestern
8. USC
9. UChicago
10. Yale
11. UC Berkeley
12. Cornell
13. UT Austin
14. Princeton
15. Notre Dame
16. UMichigan
17. UCLA
18. UVA
19. Boston U
20. UMiami
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think Notre Dame is the only real surprise on that list for me, particularly given that I think of it as a school that places a lot of grads in the midwest, where salaries tend to be lower.
Austin produces a lot of STEM degrees, I think. Berkeley was well, plus places a lot of grads in the Bay Area, where salaries are very high.
Miami and USC have a lot of richie rich kids that get jobs in the family business.
NYU places most grads in NYC, which has the highest salaries in the US.
No doesn’t surprise me at all. Huge endowment and many wealthy legacies.
Agree, a perfect example of kids who are just coming in from privilege and then returning to that privilege with the stamp of approval from a name brand school. ND isn't even that hard to get into if you are a wealthy Catholic because you can boost your odds significantly by sending them to a highly regarded Catholic high school. It's like a sneaky backdoor way of easing your kid's admission to an "elite" school.
Why is it sneaky? I know lots of kids in my DS's Catholic HS that were not admitted. Being committed to Catholic education, however, doesn't hurt you if trying to get into a school like Notre Dame, but it is not the only thing they are looking for obviously.
Sounds like you are bitter.
Lol at being bitter about not going to ND -- why would a non-Catholic with good grades want to move to South Bend and hang out with drunk former alter boys for 4 years?
My family is mostly non-religious.
My kid is attending a protestant church with friends.
(kind of like half religious and half socializing)
My kid will choose between Notre Dame(already got in) and Georgetown(waiting).
Very coincidentally, both are Catholic based colleges, but that was not a factor at all when make a college list.
The kid picked a list of schools based on the field of study and the school itself.
The Kid wanted a school with an undergraduate business program.
The Kid doesn't want a cutthroat competitive or stressful level of schools: In my kids view - UPenn Wharton, MIT Sloan, or Cornell Dyson.
(yes the kid probably didn't have a good chance anyways)
There are a few great public undergraduate business schools like Berkeley Haas, Michigan Ross, UVA McIntire, UNC Kenaan,
but you have to apply again to a business program in 2nd or 3rd year for those public schools. Big added risk.
Also if given a choice, didn't want to go to a huge public school.
The kid liked Vanderbilt, but it doesn't have dedicated undergraduate business program.
So that leaves a handful of schools that my kid would consider - WashU, Rice, CMU, USC, Emory, Georgetown, and Notre Dame. .
Among these all things considered, The kid liked Georgetown and Notre Dame the most but leaning more toward Notre Dame.
The school itself is great, student caring and support is great, and most of all the business program is top notch with excellent opportunities.
School spirit and alumni network is a big plus for business students. The school is great for both finance and consulting
- https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/consulting-target-schools
- https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-schools
- https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking
The kid wanted to go to a school in a city environment, so one downside would be the location,
but it's at least better than locations like Dartmouth or Cornell with populations 8,000 and 30,000, and Chicago is 1.5 hour away.
All the upside dwarfs this one downside.
I think the school is a great fit for my kid.
So that's one reason why a non-Catholic with good grades would want to go to Notre Dame.
I hope you learned something and I'm sorry if your kid got denied, but I'm sure your kid would also find a good school that fits.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think Notre Dame is the only real surprise on that list for me, particularly given that I think of it as a school that places a lot of grads in the midwest, where salaries tend to be lower.
Austin produces a lot of STEM degrees, I think. Berkeley was well, plus places a lot of grads in the Bay Area, where salaries are very high.
Miami and USC have a lot of richie rich kids that get jobs in the family business.
NYU places most grads in NYC, which has the highest salaries in the US.
No doesn’t surprise me at all. Huge endowment and many wealthy legacies.
Agree, a perfect example of kids who are just coming in from privilege and then returning to that privilege with the stamp of approval from a name brand school. ND isn't even that hard to get into if you are a wealthy Catholic because you can boost your odds significantly by sending them to a highly regarded Catholic high school. It's like a sneaky backdoor way of easing your kid's admission to an "elite" school.
Why is it sneaky? I know lots of kids in my DS's Catholic HS that were not admitted. Being committed to Catholic education, however, doesn't hurt you if trying to get into a school like Notre Dame, but it is not the only thing they are looking for obviously.
Sounds like you are bitter.
Lol at being bitter about not going to ND -- why would a non-Catholic with good grades want to move to South Bend and hang out with drunk former alter boys for 4 years?
My family is mostly non-religious.
My kid is attending a protestant church with friends.
(kind of like half religious and half socializing)
My kid will choose between Notre Dame(already got in) and Georgetown(waiting).
Very coincidentally, both are Catholic based colleges, but that was not a factor at all when make a college list.
The kid picked a list of schools based on the field of study and the school itself.
The Kid wanted a school with an undergraduate business program.
The Kid doesn't want a cutthroat competitive or stressful level of schools: In my kids view - UPenn Wharton, MIT Sloan, or Cornell Dyson.
(yes the kid probably didn't have a good chance anyways)
There are a few great public undergraduate business schools like Berkeley Haas, Michigan Ross, UVA McIntire, UNC Kenaan,
but you have to apply again to a business program in 2nd or 3rd year for those public schools. Big added risk.
Also if given a choice, didn't want to go to a huge public school.
The kid liked Vanderbilt, but it doesn't have dedicated undergraduate business program.
So that leaves a handful of schools that my kid would consider - WashU, Rice, CMU, USC, Emory, Georgetown, and Notre Dame. .
Among these all things considered, The kid liked Georgetown and Notre Dame the most but leaning more toward Notre Dame.
The school itself is great, student caring and support is great, and most of all the business program is top notch with excellent opportunities.
School spirit and alumni network is a big plus for business students. The school is great for both finance and consulting
- https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/consulting-target-schools
- https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-schools
- https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking
The kid wanted to go to a school in a city environment, so one downside would be the location,
but it's at least better than locations like Dartmouth or Cornell with populations 8,000 and 30,000, and Chicago is 1.5 hour away.
All the upside dwarfs this one downside.
I think the school is a great fit for my kid.
So that's one reason why a non-Catholic with good grades would want to go to Notre Dame.
I hope you learned something and I'm sorry if your kid got denied, but I'm sure your kid would also find a good school that fits.
Anonymous wrote:No Duke, Vanderbilt, UNC, Boston College, Emory, Hopkins, Tufts. Surprising.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think Notre Dame is the only real surprise on that list for me, particularly given that I think of it as a school that places a lot of grads in the midwest, where salaries tend to be lower.
Austin produces a lot of STEM degrees, I think. Berkeley was well, plus places a lot of grads in the Bay Area, where salaries are very high.
Miami and USC have a lot of richie rich kids that get jobs in the family business.
NYU places most grads in NYC, which has the highest salaries in the US.
No doesn’t surprise me at all. Huge endowment and many wealthy legacies.
Agree, a perfect example of kids who are just coming in from privilege and then returning to that privilege with the stamp of approval from a name brand school. ND isn't even that hard to get into if you are a wealthy Catholic because you can boost your odds significantly by sending them to a highly regarded Catholic high school. It's like a sneaky backdoor way of easing your kid's admission to an "elite" school.
Why is it sneaky? I know lots of kids in my DS's Catholic HS that were not admitted. Being committed to Catholic education, however, doesn't hurt you if trying to get into a school like Notre Dame, but it is not the only thing they are looking for obviously.
Sounds like you are bitter.
Lol at being bitter about not going to ND -- why would a non-Catholic with good grades want to move to South Bend and hang out with drunk former alter boys for 4 years?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think Notre Dame is the only real surprise on that list for me, particularly given that I think of it as a school that places a lot of grads in the midwest, where salaries tend to be lower.
Austin produces a lot of STEM degrees, I think. Berkeley was well, plus places a lot of grads in the Bay Area, where salaries are very high.
Miami and USC have a lot of richie rich kids that get jobs in the family business.
NYU places most grads in NYC, which has the highest salaries in the US.
No doesn’t surprise me at all. Huge endowment and many wealthy legacies.
Agree, a perfect example of kids who are just coming in from privilege and then returning to that privilege with the stamp of approval from a name brand school. ND isn't even that hard to get into if you are a wealthy Catholic because you can boost your odds significantly by sending them to a highly regarded Catholic high school. It's like a sneaky backdoor way of easing your kid's admission to an "elite" school.
Why is it sneaky? I know lots of kids in my DS's Catholic HS that were not admitted. Being committed to Catholic education, however, doesn't hurt you if trying to get into a school like Notre Dame, but it is not the only thing they are looking for obviously.
Sounds like you are bitter.
Lol at being bitter about not going to ND -- why would a non-Catholic with good grades want to move to South Bend and hang out with drunk former alter boys for 4 years?
Yup I was right...really really bitter. Sad.
I know your mommy told you the other kids were just jealous… but the truth is you have a bad personality. Sorry.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think Notre Dame is the only real surprise on that list for me, particularly given that I think of it as a school that places a lot of grads in the midwest, where salaries tend to be lower.
Austin produces a lot of STEM degrees, I think. Berkeley was well, plus places a lot of grads in the Bay Area, where salaries are very high.
Miami and USC have a lot of richie rich kids that get jobs in the family business.
NYU places most grads in NYC, which has the highest salaries in the US.
No doesn’t surprise me at all. Huge endowment and many wealthy legacies.
Agree, a perfect example of kids who are just coming in from privilege and then returning to that privilege with the stamp of approval from a name brand school. ND isn't even that hard to get into if you are a wealthy Catholic because you can boost your odds significantly by sending them to a highly regarded Catholic high school. It's like a sneaky backdoor way of easing your kid's admission to an "elite" school.
Why is it sneaky? I know lots of kids in my DS's Catholic HS that were not admitted. Being committed to Catholic education, however, doesn't hurt you if trying to get into a school like Notre Dame, but it is not the only thing they are looking for obviously.
Sounds like you are bitter.
Lol at being bitter about not going to ND -- why would a non-Catholic with good grades want to move to South Bend and hang out with drunk former alter boys for 4 years?
Yup I was right...really really bitter. Sad.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UT Austin, Michigan, UVA, Miami and Boston are surprises to me. And NYU being so high is also a bit unexpected, though not entirely surprising.
NYU has #1 real estate studies program plus highly ranked performing arts school.
Anonymous wrote:UT Austin, Michigan, UVA, Miami and Boston are surprises to me. And NYU being so high is also a bit unexpected, though not entirely surprising.
Anonymous wrote:Study doesn't adjust for school size/total number of graduates.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think Notre Dame is the only real surprise on that list for me, particularly given that I think of it as a school that places a lot of grads in the midwest, where salaries tend to be lower.
Austin produces a lot of STEM degrees, I think. Berkeley was well, plus places a lot of grads in the Bay Area, where salaries are very high.
Miami and USC have a lot of richie rich kids that get jobs in the family business.
NYU places most grads in NYC, which has the highest salaries in the US.
No doesn’t surprise me at all. Huge endowment and many wealthy legacies.
Agree, a perfect example of kids who are just coming in from privilege and then returning to that privilege with the stamp of approval from a name brand school. ND isn't even that hard to get into if you are a wealthy Catholic because you can boost your odds significantly by sending them to a highly regarded Catholic high school. It's like a sneaky backdoor way of easing your kid's admission to an "elite" school.
Why is it sneaky? I know lots of kids in my DS's Catholic HS that were not admitted. Being committed to Catholic education, however, doesn't hurt you if trying to get into a school like Notre Dame, but it is not the only thing they are looking for obviously.
Sounds like you are bitter.
Lol at being bitter about not going to ND -- why would a non-Catholic with good grades want to move to South Bend and hang out with drunk former alter boys for 4 years?