Anonymous
Post 12/30/2021 11:21     Subject: Sports for college application
None of your kids getting a scholarship to a top D1 school so target D3
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2021 11:17     Subject: Sports for college application
You can target division III colleges.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2021 14:52     Subject: Sports for college application
Anonymous wrote:It all depends:
Does your DC want to go to a top school with great stats but need a spike to enhance his chance?
Does your DC need scholarship to attend his dream school?
Does your DC get mediocre stats but want to use sports to reach a better school?
Does your DC love the sport and want to play for a school with the best team in his sport nationally?


Thanks!
DC wants to go to a top school with great stats but needs a spike to enhance his chances. He also loves fencing and wants to pursue it (not international level but will try for national level).
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2021 09:59     Subject: Sports for college application
It all depends:
Does your DC want to go to a top school with great stats but need a spike to enhance his chance?
Does your DC need scholarship to attend his dream school?
Does your DC get mediocre stats but want to use sports to reach a better school?
Does your DC love the sport and want to play for a school with the best team in his sport nationally?
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2021 09:25     Subject: Sports for college application
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hardest sport is women volleyball for a scholarship


For scholarships, any sport where the Ivy League is strong will be hard, because Ivy League teams are not allowed to give athletic scholarships.

Athletes should be doing a sport because they love it, as scholarships are a crap shoot until you have invested years in the sport and know if you are a top athlete.


One thing that doesn’t seem to be discussed much is whether competing in a sport actually hurts if you’re not recruited. Being a varsity athlete in something like volleyball is a full time job — HS team, club, sand volleyball — it goes on all year. So far, my anecdotal experience is that the non-recruited varsity athletes aren’t doing that well in admissions, and it seems to be reflected in this board. The one that I know that did well had some very impressive & unusual ECs outside of sports. ADs say they want kids that show a depth of commitment, and they must know how much time sports takes, but I wonder if these kids run the risk of looking one-dimensional?

FWIW, I worry about this because I have a close family member who didn’t get into a school that should have been a match (had the stats and was a legacy) that had been devoted to volleyball, but wasn’t good enough (actually, very talented, but not tall enough) to be recruited.


.6 percent chance of getting scholarships for womens volleyball. Don’t waste your time


A silly statement. There are club teams in most populous states that will have nearly all of their graduating players go on to play in college. As in all things, kids get sorted out as time passes. The keys for volleyball really are: (1) be tall - 6 foot is a good cut line though liberos are shorter though obviously fewer. And, then, be a good enough player that you play for a good club team. Most sports are that way now except football and, to some extent, track and field (though scholarships are few in track).
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2021 08:41     Subject: Sports for college application
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:#1 US Women's fencer in country and current senior at Potomac, committed/admitted to Princeton. If he is great, it’s a great way in.


#1 Junior (U20) women’s epee fencer in the country is a senior at Potomac and is going to Princeton

#1 Junior (U20) women’s saber fencer in the country (and in the world) is a senior at NCS and is going to Princeton

# 1 Junior (U20) women’s foil fencer in the country is a freshman at Princeton



Fencing is not that competitive


So what? Princeton is.


What major
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2021 08:36     Subject: Sports for college application
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hardest sport is women volleyball for a scholarship


For scholarships, any sport where the Ivy League is strong will be hard, because Ivy League teams are not allowed to give athletic scholarships.

Athletes should be doing a sport because they love it, as scholarships are a crap shoot until you have invested years in the sport and know if you are a top athlete.


One thing that doesn’t seem to be discussed much is whether competing in a sport actually hurts if you’re not recruited. Being a varsity athlete in something like volleyball is a full time job — HS team, club, sand volleyball — it goes on all year. So far, my anecdotal experience is that the non-recruited varsity athletes aren’t doing that well in admissions, and it seems to be reflected in this board. The one that I know that did well had some very impressive & unusual ECs outside of sports. ADs say they want kids that show a depth of commitment, and they must know how much time sports takes, but I wonder if these kids run the risk of looking one-dimensional?

FWIW, I worry about this because I have a close family member who didn’t get into a school that should have been a match (had the stats and was a legacy) that had been devoted to volleyball, but wasn’t good enough (actually, very talented, but not tall enough) to be recruited.


.6 percent chance of getting scholarships for womens volleyball. Don’t waste your time


Agree that doing a sport for the main purpose of getting a scholarship is not worth the time and money.

If your kid loves the sports and may play on a club team in college and has made great friends playing the sports - then it is worth it IMHO.

Think about what your teen may be doing if he/she is not at practice/games..............so keep them busy in an activity they love is priceless!
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2021 01:16     Subject: Sports for college application
Although the number of US fenders is far smaller than the number of European fencers, the US kids a are holding their own. In the first Women’s Epee Cadet World Cup (under seventeen), the finals were two US fencers. Then the same thing happened for the first Women’s Epee Junior World Cup in Spain (under twenty). And at the Cadet and Junior World Championships in April, multiple US fencers medaled.
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2021 16:05     Subject: Sports for college application
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Fencing is not that hard to get good at and it is one of the easier sports to check the box with for college


Seriously? You think an Olympic sport is "not that hard to get good at"? The top high school fencers spend 20-30 hours a week training, AND have to travel to six North American Cups a year to compete, AND have to travel to 4-7 Cadet and Junior World Cups in Europe each year, where they compete against the best European fencers (where fencing is taken very seriously), all while maintaining full high school schedules, taking AP classes, etc.


A Notre Dame fencer was the first to win gold this year.



That’s wonderful! Only a few kids are able to win gold, silver or bronze medals at international and national competitions. No wonder why top universities want to recruit them. This is for any sports, not just fencing. Even Squash is a very expensive sport. Does it has the same potential like fencing, if the kid is a winner in competitions?
Anonymous
Post 12/26/2021 08:44     Subject: Sports for college application
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Fencing is not that hard to get good at and it is one of the easier sports to check the box with for college


Seriously? You think an Olympic sport is "not that hard to get good at"? The top high school fencers spend 20-30 hours a week training, AND have to travel to six North American Cups a year to compete, AND have to travel to 4-7 Cadet and Junior World Cups in Europe each year, where they compete against the best European fencers (where fencing is taken very seriously), all while maintaining full high school schedules, taking AP classes, etc.


A Notre Dame fencer was the first to win gold this year.

Anonymous
Post 12/23/2021 21:44     Subject: Re:Sports for college application
I do think commitment to sports helped DD’s get into a top university and there is nothing remotely recruitable about her sports (taekwondo and cross country). She got her black belt in taekwondo and stuck with cross country for all six years. She started training for her first marathon when she was interviewed by, coincidentally, an alumni who was also a runner.

Sport is commitment, dedication and team work generally. Can’t hurt
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2021 17:49     Subject: Sports for college application
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hardest sport is women volleyball for a scholarship


For scholarships, any sport where the Ivy League is strong will be hard, because Ivy League teams are not allowed to give athletic scholarships.

Athletes should be doing a sport because they love it, as scholarships are a crap shoot until you have invested years in the sport and know if you are a top athlete.


One thing that doesn’t seem to be discussed much is whether competing in a sport actually hurts if you’re not recruited. Being a varsity athlete in something like volleyball is a full time job — HS team, club, sand volleyball — it goes on all year. So far, my anecdotal experience is that the non-recruited varsity athletes aren’t doing that well in admissions, and it seems to be reflected in this board. The one that I know that did well had some very impressive & unusual ECs outside of sports. ADs say they want kids that show a depth of commitment, and they must know how much time sports takes, but I wonder if these kids run the risk of looking one-dimensional?

FWIW, I worry about this because I have a close family member who didn’t get into a school that should have been a match (had the stats and was a legacy) that had been devoted to volleyball, but wasn’t good enough (actually, very talented, but not tall enough) to be recruited.


.6 percent chance of getting scholarships for womens volleyball. Don’t waste your time
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2021 17:42     Subject: Sports for college application
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hardest sport is women volleyball for a scholarship


For scholarships, any sport where the Ivy League is strong will be hard, because Ivy League teams are not allowed to give athletic scholarships.

Athletes should be doing a sport because they love it, as scholarships are a crap shoot until you have invested years in the sport and know if you are a top athlete.


One thing that doesn’t seem to be discussed much is whether competing in a sport actually hurts if you’re not recruited. Being a varsity athlete in something like volleyball is a full time job — HS team, club, sand volleyball — it goes on all year. So far, my anecdotal experience is that the non-recruited varsity athletes aren’t doing that well in admissions, and it seems to be reflected in this board. The one that I know that did well had some very impressive & unusual ECs outside of sports. ADs say they want kids that show a depth of commitment, and they must know how much time sports takes, but I wonder if these kids run the risk of looking one-dimensional?

FWIW, I worry about this because I have a close family member who didn’t get into a school that should have been a match (had the stats and was a legacy) that had been devoted to volleyball, but wasn’t good enough (actually, very talented, but not tall enough) to be recruited.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2021 11:48     Subject: Sports for college application
Anonymous wrote:Hardest sport is women volleyball for a scholarship


For scholarships, any sport where the Ivy League is strong will be hard, because Ivy League teams are not allowed to give athletic scholarships.

Athletes should be doing a sport because they love it, as scholarships are a crap shoot until you have invested years in the sport and know if you are a top athlete.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2021 11:47     Subject: Sports for college application
Anonymous wrote:Hardest sport is women volleyball for a scholarship


Equestrian is hard, too (and crazy expensive to get there).