Anonymous
12/20/2021 10:46
Subject: Collegeboard denying accommodations on SAT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Or people who simply understood the process and did not fail their kids.
Did these same kids need accommodations at their elite private schools or just for college admissions testing?
In my daughter's case. Yes. Same exact accommodations.
Are big 3’s taking kids that need extra time? Or are these kids acquiring the need after they get admitted?
Learning styles and differences present at a range of times, not necessarily from 2-5. DS was a fairly strong, steady student until around 8th grade when he started to struggle in math/science. We initially assumed it was a maturity issue (more on that later), but it really came to a head in fall semester freshman year when he was pretty much in freefall in a range of classes. He had already been enrolled in the learning center for executive function needs, but we decided to have him tested given the breadth of the challenges. He received an ADHD mild inattentive w/poor executive function diagnosis. The school developed a learning plan, including seating in the front of the classroom/away from the door, etc. After that, there was a steady progress upwards in his performance. We also learned that maturity in kids with this kind of diagnosis can often lag compared to their peers.
So yeah, some kids' needs may be more obvious when they are applying PK/K while other kids may go 9 more grades before their needs are more apparent.
Sounds like that’s a turnoff for the Big 3’s, but if the kid is already in they can get accommodated?
Anonymous
12/20/2021 09:56
Subject: Collegeboard denying accommodations on SAT
Anonymous wrote:We could not afford independent testing for my DD. She had testing done by the school system. That testing was too old for college board. She was denied accommodations.
By law the school system has to update testing every 3 years. Did you not get that?
Anonymous
12/20/2021 09:51
Subject: Collegeboard denying accommodations on SAT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Or people who simply understood the process and did not fail their kids.
Did these same kids need accommodations at their elite private schools or just for college admissions testing?
In my daughter's case. Yes. Same exact accommodations.
Are big 3’s taking kids that need extra time? Or are these kids acquiring the need after they get admitted?
Learning styles and differences present at a range of times, not necessarily from 2-5. DS was a fairly strong, steady student until around 8th grade when he started to struggle in math/science. We initially assumed it was a maturity issue (more on that later), but it really came to a head in fall semester freshman year when he was pretty much in freefall in a range of classes. He had already been enrolled in the learning center for executive function needs, but we decided to have him tested given the breadth of the challenges. He received an ADHD mild inattentive w/poor executive function diagnosis. The school developed a learning plan, including seating in the front of the classroom/away from the door, etc. After that, there was a steady progress upwards in his performance. We also learned that maturity in kids with this kind of diagnosis can often lag compared to their peers.
So yeah, some kids' needs may be more obvious when they are applying PK/K while other kids may go 9 more grades before their needs are more apparent.
Anonymous
12/20/2021 09:42
Subject: Collegeboard denying accommodations on SAT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Or people who simply understood the process and did not fail their kids.
Did these same kids need accommodations at their elite private schools or just for college admissions testing?
In my daughter's case. Yes. Same exact accommodations.
Ditto for DS.
Anonymous
12/20/2021 09:41
Subject: Collegeboard denying accommodations on SAT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Or people who simply understood the process and did not fail their kids.
Did these same kids need accommodations at their elite private schools or just for college admissions testing?
In my daughter's case. Yes. Same exact accommodations.
Are big 3’s taking kids that need extra time? Or are these kids acquiring the need after they get admitted?
Anonymous
12/20/2021 09:09
Subject: Collegeboard denying accommodations on SAT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Or people who simply understood the process and did not fail their kids.
Did these same kids need accommodations at their elite private schools or just for college admissions testing?
In my daughter's case. Yes. Same exact accommodations.
Anonymous
12/20/2021 01:16
Subject: Re:Collegeboard denying accommodations on SAT
bits = bites
Anonymous
12/20/2021 01:15
Subject: Re:Collegeboard denying accommodations on SAT
Did these same kids need accommodations at their elite private schools or just for college admissions testing?
Of course, what do you think is a driver of massive grade inflation at these toney private and W public schools? Kids get multiple bits at the apple (tests and papers) until they, and their parents, get the grade they want - certainly not the grade they deserve!
Anonymous
12/19/2021 22:49
Subject: Collegeboard denying accommodations on SAT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do colleges know if you get extra time?
No
If a college sends a special exam to a students high school, will the high school inform the college that the student got extra time on the test?
Yes
I thought it was against the law for the schools to share 504/IEP information.
Anonymous
12/19/2021 22:44
Subject: Collegeboard denying accommodations on SAT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The point of standardized tests is that they are standardized. Other than accommodations for actual physical limitations, they should be exactly the same for everyone. Any accommodation is an unfair advantage, usually gamed by rich parents who can’t bear to think that their baby isn’t in the 99th percentile. I knew a lot of kids in college who’d gotten in with accommodations, and they couldn’t do the work. They ended up in gut majors… but I suppose it was never about the learning, it was about the badge. Most were popular though—and rich. And now they are all sitting pretty in cush jobs with generational wealth.
You seem like a very miserable person. If your child does not have any challenges - be grateful and not snarky about those who do
If your kid dies, you should be upset about the many that game - or try to game - the system. Common among affluent parents of mediocre kids.
Does, not dies.
Anonymous
12/19/2021 22:44
Subject: Collegeboard denying accommodations on SAT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The point of standardized tests is that they are standardized. Other than accommodations for actual physical limitations, they should be exactly the same for everyone. Any accommodation is an unfair advantage, usually gamed by rich parents who can’t bear to think that their baby isn’t in the 99th percentile. I knew a lot of kids in college who’d gotten in with accommodations, and they couldn’t do the work. They ended up in gut majors… but I suppose it was never about the learning, it was about the badge. Most were popular though—and rich. And now they are all sitting pretty in cush jobs with generational wealth.
You seem like a very miserable person. If your child does not have any challenges - be grateful and not snarky about those who do
If your kid dies, you should be upset about the many that game - or try to game - the system. Common among affluent parents of mediocre kids.
Anonymous
12/19/2021 22:41
Subject: Collegeboard denying accommodations on SAT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do colleges know if you get extra time?
No
If a college sends a special exam to a students high school, will the high school inform the college that the student got extra time on the test?
Yes
Anonymous
12/19/2021 22:37
Subject: Collegeboard denying accommodations on SAT
Anonymous wrote:Or people who simply understood the process and did not fail their kids.
Did these same kids need accommodations at their elite private schools or just for college admissions testing?
Anonymous
12/19/2021 22:34
Subject: Collegeboard denying accommodations on SAT
Anonymous wrote:Or people who simply understood the process and did not fail their kids.
Big plus one
Anonymous
12/19/2021 22:26
Subject: Collegeboard denying accommodations on SAT
Or people who simply understood the process and did not fail their kids.