Anonymous wrote:Many kids at our Big3 use it to get into top schools. I know of 5 kids that were recruited for crew in the last few years and then quit within one month of arriving at college. Schools attending include Michigan, Brown, UVA, Cornell. They are completely scamming the schools and once they arrive in campus they quit. All the kids talk about it and it is definitely a college admissions strategy.

Crew in college is pure misery for the majority of the years. At my school, their practice hours were miserable and the majority of the winter was too cold to be on our lake, so they just spent hours in the gym early morning and afternoon.

Anonymous wrote:If it's so easy why can't all the high SAT scorers also be world class athletes?

Why would they want to spend their time on that?

Many kids at our Big3 use it to get into top schools. I know of 5 kids that were recruited for crew in the last few years and then quit within one month of arriving at college. Schools attending include Michigan, Brown, UVA, Cornell. They are completely scamming the schools and once they arrive in campus they quit. All the kids talk about it and it is definitely a college admissions strategy.

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Anonymous wrote:You haven’t figured out that our society values sports over education?

But you can get into a good school with amazing academics and zero athletics, but if you have amazing athletics you still need academics that are far above average.

It's higher EDUCATION...not higher athletics.

Then you don't understand EDUCATION.

I don't give a rats ass if my lawyer or my investment advisor or my doctor can catch a ball. I need their brains...period.

And you get that, as med and law schools don't look at sports for admission.

They do consider it in an applicant though. If you ace the LSAT, and had top grades, plus played a varsity sport in college, and maybe also were the captain, that added time commitment and leadership on top of academic success does stand out to a law school as law requires excellent time management and leadership.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are talking about all sport like lacrosse or crew or field hockey, these recruits statistically will presumptively be successful in their chosen careers.

What a flimsy statement. I am sure kids who play lacrosse or crew are disproportionately from wealthy families and have grown up with lots of opportunities. They aren’t successful because of their sport. (Not even getting to what is the definition of success and what stats are you using).

Yes, OP, I find colleges favoritism to atheists to be so bizarre and frustrating. College is not an athletic endeavor.

Lacrosse is a very insular sport and insular world. I do know of working or regular middle class kids who used the sport as their ticket to a golden life. What's often forgotten or ignored is that team sports require a certain dynamic and teaches players the mindset that plays well in the big finance/banking firms and grooming leadership.

All the big private universities and LACs clearly prioritize fielding many sports teams and I can see why. Sports was historically considered a compliment to the liberal arts and being part of a well-rounded person.

Anonymous wrote:If you are talking about all sport like lacrosse or crew or field hockey, these recruits statistically will presumptively be successful in their chosen careers.

They are tiny fraction of the people who are successful in their chosen careers. Tiny. Far more people in this world are successful and did not play those sports. In other words, playing lacrosse is not what makes a person successful.

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Anonymous wrote:If it's so easy why can't all the high SAT scorers also be world class athletes?

Stay on topic, please.

The topic is the edge, the schools want kids who are multi talented. Not singularly talented test takers.

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Anonymous wrote:My friend’s son has many offers from good schools - only one application submitted - and just committed to a school where he hadn’t applied.

There is no way they didn’t apply. They might have applied after a verbal offer but they still filled out the forms and sent their transcripts etc . . .

My kid signed a National Letter of Intent. A binding contract to play soccer at a school. Before applying. Then on the last day of ED applications due dates, Kid applied and received acceptance 10 mins later.

Exactly, your kid applied.

You’re a dolt if you think this kid’s application had anything to do with his admission. Do you think he was stressed whatsoever in applying like everyone else?

So if you meant that training for many years and traveling around the country for high stakes competition is more stressful than worrying about your essay (rather than just writing whatever) you should have said it. I would have disagreed with you but it would be debatable. What is not debatable is that athletes fill out applications. The fact that OP doesn’t know this basic fact is an indication that she he/she is uneducated about the process.

At least these schools were willing to admit they’ve invested in lacrosse programs to lure full pay, higher income, suburban (white) kids.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2012/04/04/midwestern-liberal-arts-colleges-use-lacrosse-recapture-suburban-students

Anonymous wrote:If it's so easy why can't all the high SAT scorers also be world class athletes?

Stay on topic, please.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are talking about all sport like lacrosse or crew or field hockey, these recruits statistically will presumptively be successful in their chosen careers.

I’m not but what does this have to do with anything?

Colleges want alums who are future leaders. Sports are a proven method of developing leaders.

Bingo.

Nah - that’s not what this is about. Because then why not accept kids who have been doing a sport for 12+ years but aren’t great at it?

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Anonymous wrote:You haven’t figured out that our society values sports over education?

But you can get into a good school with amazing academics and zero athletics, but if you have amazing athletics you still need academics that are far above average.

It's higher EDUCATION...not higher athletics.

Then you don't understand EDUCATION.

I don't give a rats ass if my lawyer or my investment advisor or my doctor can catch a ball. I need their brains...period.

And you get that, as med and law schools don't look at sports for admission.

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Anonymous wrote:My friend’s son has many offers from good schools - only one application submitted - and just committed to a school where he hadn’t applied.

There is no way they didn’t apply. They might have applied after a verbal offer but they still filled out the forms and sent their transcripts etc . . .

My kid signed a National Letter of Intent. A binding contract to play soccer at a school. Before applying. Then on the last day of ED applications due dates, Kid applied and received acceptance 10 mins later.

Exactly, your kid applied.

You’re a dolt if you think this kid’s application had anything to do with his admission. Do you think he was stressed whatsoever in applying like everyone else?

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Anonymous wrote:If you are talking about all sport like lacrosse or crew or field hockey, these recruits statistically will presumptively be successful in their chosen careers.

I’m not but what does this have to do with anything?

Colleges want alums who are future leaders. Sports are a proven method of developing leaders.

Bingo.

If it's so easy why can't all the high SAT scorers also be world class athletes?