Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 13:09     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Even if everyone was willing to take the vaccine, herd immunity was impossible with the transmissibility r0 of delta and the waning VE. It’s definitely impossible with current vaccines and omicron. The government needs to do its job stopping the unvaxed from clogging hospitals which is all we can do at this point and I’m tired of the government doing that by imposing more restrictions on me.


Another armchair epidemiologist heard from.



Leaked documents from CDC showed transmissibility of delta was much higher than they were admitting. Face napkins and leaky vaccines are not going to stop this. Get a grip and get real information


Funny because lots of studies say masking helps. And, plenty of real life examples too.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 13:09     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Grow up, be responsible and wear a mask. Really, how hard is that?


Being an obedient, irrational sheep is not something to brag about. You know that, right?

As PPs have said, highly liberal jurisdictions like DC and Arlington don’t have mask mandates and are doing just fine. Also, as PPs have said it is all about control and not about science. Having no restrictions on having a two hour meal indoors next to other patrons and staff, but mandating wearing a mask when you are in CVS to run in and get some shampoo and use the self checkout makes absolutely no sense and has no bearing on science. Moving the goalposts on vaccination percentages because of a variant that is less lethal makes no sense as well.

If our leaders actually made regulations based on science and concerns for public safety and not based on cynical political maneuvering, fear mongering, or to appease business interests a lot of us would take their recommendations in better faith.


We are still having high spread. That is not fine.


Yes, being vaccinated and I great shape and then getting a case of the sniffles is terrible.


So, you only care about yourself at best, given that is questionable. The sniffifles did not kill this many.


Nor did it kill a percentage of my cohort to have the slightest bit of fear.

But keep wiping down your amazon deliveries and leaving them in the garage for two weeks if that's what gets you off.



So, because it didn't kill your cohort, you can pretend it doesn't exist. I can only imagine how you raise your kids. No wonder our country is such a hot mess.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 13:06     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

Anonymous wrote:We have started doing most of our shopping and other daily errands in Northern Virginia. Eventually will start looking at homes there, too, if MoCo keeps this up.


That's a long way to drive, just to avoid wearing a mask, but you know best.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 12:50     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

We have started doing most of our shopping and other daily errands in Northern Virginia. Eventually will start looking at homes there, too, if MoCo keeps this up.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 12:30     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Even if everyone was willing to take the vaccine, herd immunity was impossible with the transmissibility r0 of delta and the waning VE. It’s definitely impossible with current vaccines and omicron. The government needs to do its job stopping the unvaxed from clogging hospitals which is all we can do at this point and I’m tired of the government doing that by imposing more restrictions on me.


Another armchair epidemiologist heard from.



Leaked documents from CDC showed transmissibility of delta was much higher than they were admitting. Face napkins and leaky vaccines are not going to stop this. Get a grip and get real information
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 12:27     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Folks, we are not at "endemic" - we are still at "pandemic."


This. The precautions are still wise and necessary. Reality says its not over if if we're sick of it. We WANT leaders to increase precautions when the situation changes or they get new information. It's hard on everyone these days but this is what it takes to look out for one another and to keep give as many of us as possible the best odds for staying safe.


So when does that shift occur from pandemic to endemic?

I feel frustrated as the other poster. When does Moco let this end? Why are kids still wearing masks on the playground at recess? Why do I need to wear a mask if I'm triple vaccinated? What's the point of wearing a mask in a restaurant if I'm pretty much not wearing it at all while eating?


Starting to see the insanity of it? You are being played people. Get ready for social credit score next.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 09:29     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

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Anonymous wrote:If everyone had access to the Merck and Pfizer antiviral packs for COVID, this would be over. It's been almost a year since the vaccine was rolled out - a vaccine that was developed in 9 months. When will everyone have access to the COVID treatment medication??? It's almost been 2 years for F sake.


EXACTLY!!!!!


The Trump administration got vaccines developed in NINE MONTHS.

WTF is Biden DOING?????


I don’t have high hope for those antovirals. The one they have for the flu, tamiflu, doesn’t reallly seem to work that well, IMO. I’m guessing these meds would be similar.


Also aren’t there some pretty legit concerns about the Merck one?
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 09:27     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If everyone had access to the Merck and Pfizer antiviral packs for COVID, this would be over. It's been almost a year since the vaccine was rolled out - a vaccine that was developed in 9 months. When will everyone have access to the COVID treatment medication??? It's almost been 2 years for F sake.


EXACTLY!!!!!


The Trump administration got vaccines developed in NINE MONTHS.

WTF is Biden DOING?????


I don’t have high hope for those antovirals. The one they have for the flu, tamiflu, doesn’t reallly seem to work that well, IMO. I’m guessing these meds would be similar.


It doesn’t have to be perfect or help everyone, even if it helps some that could go a long way towards keeping people out of hospitals
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 09:25     Subject: Re:85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

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Anonymous wrote:ugh. He annoys me so much. Constant state of fear.

This goes counter to what MD state has proposed:

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/maryland-state-board-of-education-mask-mandate-school-classroom-covid/65-dcfb3168-8d15-4026-b331-19618d69c2bb


Ignore his comments. Just wear a mask into whatever retail store you enter. I have been since last year, and will continue to do so for a while. At this stage, it is not even annoying. It just hangs in my car, and another by front door. As for restaurants, I got vaccinated and boostered, and have a photo of my card on my phone. If someone wants to see it, fine. It is not exactly like I do not carry my phone everywhere anyway. Folks need to learn to relax and just do it. What I have clearly leaned is that there are lots of people that I will want to avoid when a real emergency happens. Many folks can handle even these simple things.

As a PP stated, it's moving the goal posts, and it is super annoying.

Covid will never go away. At some point, we have to stop being ruled by fear, and just get on with it.

I hate wearing masks. A store clerk was trying to tell me something, and I could not understand her, especially when they have an accent (not being racist.. my sister has an accent). I find if I can read lips and hear them speak, I can understand them better. Must be tough in classrooms.


Yeah- as the pandemic drags on I find myself annoyed with the total disregard for people who struggle with masks. My mom has a hearing impairment and has a hard time not seeing lip movement. And my kids have absolutely experienced communications issues at school although it seems better this year.

Not that it really matters around here because pretty much everyone continued to wear them even when the mandate was lifted anyway. But it is annoying that they keep moving the goalposts.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 06:45     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

Anonymous wrote:Even if everyone was willing to take the vaccine, herd immunity was impossible with the transmissibility r0 of delta and the waning VE. It’s definitely impossible with current vaccines and omicron. The government needs to do its job stopping the unvaxed from clogging hospitals which is all we can do at this point and I’m tired of the government doing that by imposing more restrictions on me.


Another armchair epidemiologist heard from.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 06:37     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

Even if everyone was willing to take the vaccine, herd immunity was impossible with the transmissibility r0 of delta and the waning VE. It’s definitely impossible with current vaccines and omicron. The government needs to do its job stopping the unvaxed from clogging hospitals which is all we can do at this point and I’m tired of the government doing that by imposing more restrictions on me.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 06:27     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Grow up, be responsible and wear a mask. Really, how hard is that?


Being an obedient, irrational sheep is not something to brag about. You know that, right?

As PPs have said, highly liberal jurisdictions like DC and Arlington don’t have mask mandates and are doing just fine. Also, as PPs have said it is all about control and not about science. Having no restrictions on having a two hour meal indoors next to other patrons and staff, but mandating wearing a mask when you are in CVS to run in and get some shampoo and use the self checkout makes absolutely no sense and has no bearing on science. Moving the goalposts on vaccination percentages because of a variant that is less lethal makes no sense as well.

If our leaders actually made regulations based on science and concerns for public safety and not based on cynical political maneuvering, fear mongering, or to appease business interests a lot of us would take their recommendations in better faith.


We are still having high spread. That is not fine.


Yes, being vaccinated and I great shape and then getting a case of the sniffles is terrible.


So, you only care about yourself at best, given that is questionable. The sniffifles did not kill this many.


The people who are in serious risk are people who can already get vaccinated and have access to antibody treatments, drugs and other treatments that have been shown to lessen the effects of Covid on the off chance they get it even though they’re vaxed and boosted. A 7 year old shouldn’t have to go to school with a mask on for the next 10 years because a 300 pound 70 year old chooses to not take a free, readily available vaccine. And that will happen if we treat every single variant that emerges over the next 10 years like a national emergency and don’t deal with it in a measured, sane fashion.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 06:26     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If everyone had access to the Merck and Pfizer antiviral packs for COVID, this would be over. It's been almost a year since the vaccine was rolled out - a vaccine that was developed in 9 months. When will everyone have access to the COVID treatment medication??? It's almost been 2 years for F sake.


EXACTLY!!!!!


The Trump administration got vaccines developed in NINE MONTHS.

WTF is Biden DOING?????


I don’t have high hope for those antovirals. The one they have for the flu, tamiflu, doesn’t reallly seem to work that well, IMO. I’m guessing these meds would be similar.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 06:25     Subject: Re:85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

Right now, it’s all about control. As soon a liberals see it slipping away, they move the goalposts. In order to appear more compassionate, don’t you know.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 05:24     Subject: 85% vaccine rate isn’t good enough

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Grow up, be responsible and wear a mask. Really, how hard is that?


Being an obedient, irrational sheep is not something to brag about. You know that, right?

As PPs have said, highly liberal jurisdictions like DC and Arlington don’t have mask mandates and are doing just fine. Also, as PPs have said it is all about control and not about science. Having no restrictions on having a two hour meal indoors next to other patrons and staff, but mandating wearing a mask when you are in CVS to run in and get some shampoo and use the self checkout makes absolutely no sense and has no bearing on science. Moving the goalposts on vaccination percentages because of a variant that is less lethal makes no sense as well.

If our leaders actually made regulations based on science and concerns for public safety and not based on cynical political maneuvering, fear mongering, or to appease business interests a lot of us would take their recommendations in better faith.


We are still having high spread. That is not fine.


Yes, being vaccinated and I great shape and then getting a case of the sniffles is terrible.


So, you only care about yourself at best, given that is questionable. The sniffifles did not kill this many.


Nor did it kill a percentage of my cohort to have the slightest bit of fear.

But keep wiping down your amazon deliveries and leaving them in the garage for two weeks if that's what gets you off.