Anonymous
12/07/2021 11:28
Subject: Re:Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is her a few years back, for all the gullible people who think this is "just good makeup", lol
Watch some video clips from The Voice. The pictures on instagram are makeup/filters/posing.
Definitely not. You sound really clueless. Her eyefolds are pretty much completely gone now. Do you have any knowledge about plastic surgery?
Do you have any knowledge about makeup and instagram filters? Clearly not.
Anonymous
12/07/2021 11:26
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I ask this seriously, but who cares if she decides to portray herself as Asian now? Or if she previously portrayed herself as Latina? Why is it so bad? Why can one portray themselves as a different gender but not a different ethnicity? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct but not gender?
Please ask this question online under your real name. You will get some answers.
Why can't anyone answer my question?
Here’s an answer to your disingenuous question that you’re trying to use to call out transgenderism: it’s not okay to pretend to be another race.
It's not a disingenuous question that I'm using to call out transgenderism. Why is it not okay to pretend to be another race? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct? Why is it not okay to experiment this way? What makes it so bad? Why are people so upset by what she is doing?
So just to be clear, you are confused why people have a problem with blackface and the like?
Anonymous
12/07/2021 11:22
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I ask this seriously, but who cares if she decides to portray herself as Asian now? Or if she previously portrayed herself as Latina? Why is it so bad? Why can one portray themselves as a different gender but not a different ethnicity? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct but not gender?
Please ask this question online under your real name. You will get some answers.
Why can't anyone answer my question?
Here’s an answer to your disingenuous question that you’re trying to use to call out transgenderism: it’s not okay to pretend to be another race.
NP
I didn’t read it as the PP calling out trandgenderism. It’s a valid question - why is identifying as a different gender ok but identifying as a different race not?
Anonymous
12/07/2021 11:18
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I ask this seriously, but who cares if she decides to portray herself as Asian now? Or if she previously portrayed herself as Latina? Why is it so bad? Why can one portray themselves as a different gender but not a different ethnicity? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct but not gender?
Please ask this question online under your real name. You will get some answers.
Why can't anyone answer my question?
Here’s an answer to your disingenuous question that you’re trying to use to call out transgenderism: it’s not okay to pretend to be another race.
It's not a disingenuous question that I'm using to call out transgenderism. Why is it not okay to pretend to be another race? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct? Why is it not okay to experiment this way? What makes it so bad? Why are people so upset by what she is doing?
Anonymous
12/07/2021 11:18
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She spent years capitalizing on the images of other races. When she first hit the radio (I didn't know her from Disney, too old) I thought she was latinx heritage. Then she gradually morphed into a black or mixed facade and I was like WTF. Now this. K pop is the new wave, J pop hasn't quite gained as much traction, but either way she's just latching into a new identity. I don't understand how anyone thinks this is ok.
+1
I also initially thought she was Latinx!
She’s female. It’s LatinA. No need for the performative X.
Anonymous
12/07/2021 11:16
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:IDK. She definitely has lip filler and probably preventative Botox and contours the crap out of her face.
I teach college students and makeup in young people is really really something. Plenty of my students look like her (generally) in both pics. Almost different people say to day.
I’m unfazed.
Lip filler doesnt generally erase your double eyelids!
Right. But Photoshop and lighting and contouring and editing do.
Also, if "young people" are referring to her as Ariana Nguyen, those young people are racist. Two (perceived) wrongs don't make a right. Ick. If I caught my kid saying this I'd give them hell.
Anonymous
12/07/2021 11:13
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I ask this seriously, but who cares if she decides to portray herself as Asian now? Or if she previously portrayed herself as Latina? Why is it so bad? Why can one portray themselves as a different gender but not a different ethnicity? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct but not gender?
Please ask this question online under your real name. You will get some answers.
Why can't anyone answer my question?
Here’s an answer to your disingenuous question that you’re trying to use to call out transgenderism: it’s not okay to pretend to be another race.
Anonymous
12/07/2021 11:06
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I ask this seriously, but who cares if she decides to portray herself as Asian now? Or if she previously portrayed herself as Latina? Why is it so bad? Why can one portray themselves as a different gender but not a different ethnicity? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct but not gender?
Please ask this question online under your real name. You will get some answers.
Why can't anyone answer my question?
Well Oli London is transracial and he applauded Ariana on her transformation. He is trans-Korean so seemingly the same category as Ariana.
Anonymous
12/07/2021 11:03
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I ask this seriously, but who cares if she decides to portray herself as Asian now? Or if she previously portrayed herself as Latina? Why is it so bad? Why can one portray themselves as a different gender but not a different ethnicity? What makes ethnicity so sacrosanct but not gender?
Please ask this question online under your real name. You will get some answers.
Why can't anyone answer my question?
Anonymous
12/07/2021 11:00
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Her Koreanesque pics were very odd - could it be imitation is the highest form of flattery? I'd defer to what Koreans think, not wypipo here.
I saw some other pics posted, didn't seem to be appropriating other cultures. She was really tan 24/7 for years and years. She is from South Florida and I think Sicilian. It seems almost odd now if she is pale.
The surgery she actually did probably get was early in her singing career - an excellent nose job and possibly eyebrow lift, not sure if maybe blepharoplasty too. Just compare her Disney teen pics to like 2019.
She's had multiple surgeries lol. You guys are so naive and trusting, it's cute.
Anonymous
12/07/2021 10:59
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She spent years capitalizing on the images of other races. When she first hit the radio (I didn't know her from Disney, too old) I thought she was latinx heritage. Then she gradually morphed into a black or mixed facade and I was like WTF. Now this. K pop is the new wave, J pop hasn't quite gained as much traction, but either way she's just latching into a new identity. I don't understand how anyone thinks this is ok.
+1
I also initially thought she was Latinx!
Same. The deliberate race switching is crazy, as is the level of surgery she's had. She needs to stop!
Anonymous
12/07/2021 10:48
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
She has good flutes
Anonymous
12/07/2021 10:44
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Ariana Grande has clearly attempted to make herself appear 'exotic' and has leaned on a variety of different cultures somewhat ambiguously to create that look. You can feel one way or another about that. She also really leans on that 'look like a small child' aesthetic which has some overlap with 'look asian'.
But this is insane she has clearly NOT removed her eyelids lol.
Recent pic with less makeup
https://www.instagram.com/p/CV27xdNJKNf/
Yup. I'm half Middle Eastern, half European, and if I don't wear makeup i just look white, but with eyeliner, suddenly I'm exotic and ethnically ambiguous. Makeup is magic.
Anonymous
12/07/2021 10:40
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the very Asian pic is mostly makeup.
Agree. In that second link, she’s got her eyes half closed (which, in combo with makeup, gets rid of eyelid creases), and the heavy winged eyeliner definitely helps.
+1
If you look at her instagram you can see her eyes are just as they were with make up to make it look like she has less of a crease.
Her nose on the other hand looks very artificial.
Anonymous
12/07/2021 10:34
Subject: Ariana Grande's extensive plastic surgery- is she asianfishing now?
Anonymous wrote:I think the very Asian pic is mostly makeup.
Agree. In that second link, she’s got her eyes half closed (which, in combo with makeup, gets rid of eyelid creases), and the heavy winged eyeliner definitely helps.