Anonymous wrote:The Spanish language itself is steeped in gender. English-speaking people trying to change and neutralize another culture’s language to suit their politically motivated worldview is deeply offensive to native Spanish speakers.

Duh.

This. So stupid. White liberals trample every minority in their genuine but misguided efforts to “help”.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at a college presentation and tour the other day with my senior and the world language chair used the term "LatinX." Immediately, you could see the parents (and students) shaking their heads and rolling their eyes. Funny how people who use that term are so oblivious to how dopey they look.

I could see the parents, but I don't believe you when you talk about the students. It's common enough among young people that students would not bat an eye.

Sure maybe in the pottery department at Emily Dickinson College, Latinx would be used, but not in the.math department at Carnegie Mellon

Watch out for the kiln, Fawn! I’ve got a baaaaaaddddd feeling about it!

I actually know a professor from Carnegie Mellon. She uses the term. She's in the English department. The point is that some people use it and some don't. It's not a big deal. All of a sudden, Rs care about Latinos. Interesting.

of course they care now. they see it is helping them convince hispanics to vote republican.

Shocker. I know. Some Hispanic people like low taxes for their business, and to refute the soft bigotry of low expectations offered by the democrats. It’s crazy.

And some want to pull up the ladder and not pass DACA

Especially the ones who followed the law and immigrated legally. It's insulting (btw) to treat all hispanics as though they are illegal immigrants.

My family "followed the law and immigrated legally". We could do that because we have education and money. The immigration system does not make it easy to come in legally if you do not have money. Yet our economy has a lot of demand for low-skilled workers. Often from the most hawkish anti-immigration people. They are the ones that hire undocumented immigrants and then commit wage theft.

If we really wanted no undocumented immigrants, then the best thing to do would be to focus enforcement efforts on the companies that hire them. But that has never been done. The reality is we want these workers, we just want them to live in fear so we can exploit them .

Anonymous wrote:Are "white Hispanics" included in BIPOC?

White Latina here and no, I do not consider myself BIPOC. Technically I do have some indigenous ancestry (more than Elizabeth Warren), so I think it is a bit of a gray area. But most people who don't know me see me as White and treat me as such which is different from how my friends and family who are BIPOC are treated.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Spanish language itself is steeped in gender. English-speaking people trying to change and neutralize another culture’s language to suit their politically motivated worldview is deeply offensive to native Spanish speakers.

Duh.

At my agency we recently had a mandatory training and we told to try to use LatinX and the native Spanish speakers gave this same feedback. But hey, if it makes the Upper West Side and NPR happy, I guess that is what you do.

Precisely this! Latinos see this for what it is: racist old fashioned colonialism in the guise of “inclusion” of the LGBTQ community. It is exactly the same thing white colonizers did in the distant past to Native Americans. Change “savage” cultures to be more “modern” and imposing their worldview on what these racist liberals thought were inferior peoples and cultures.

The fact of the matter is that a large swath of working class blacks and Latinos are not on board for this far left cultural shift that these upper class white elitists are trying to impose on them in the same guise of benevolence and enlightenment that was used on Native people in the past.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at a college presentation and tour the other day with my senior and the world language chair used the term "LatinX." Immediately, you could see the parents (and students) shaking their heads and rolling their eyes. Funny how people who use that term are so oblivious to how dopey they look.

I could see the parents, but I don't believe you when you talk about the students. It's common enough among young people that students would not bat an eye.

Sure maybe in the pottery department at Emily Dickinson College, Latinx would be used, but not in the.math department at Carnegie Mellon

Watch out for the kiln, Fawn! I’ve got a baaaaaaddddd feeling about it!

I actually know a professor from Carnegie Mellon. She uses the term. She's in the English department. The point is that some people use it and some don't. It's not a big deal. All of a sudden, Rs care about Latinos. Interesting.

of course they care now. they see it is helping them convince hispanics to vote republican.

Shocker. I know. Some Hispanic people like low taxes for their business, and to refute the soft bigotry of low expectations offered by the democrats. It’s crazy.

And some want to pull up the ladder and not pass DACA

Especially the ones who followed the law and immigrated legally. It's insulting (btw) to treat all hispanics as though they are illegal immigrants.

Anonymous wrote:"Latinx" is something that clumsily works in written form, but not verbal form. It's really an inelegant term, so it really should just be retired from the lexicon. Rep. Gallego above really gets at the crux of the issue - gender-neutral terms already exist in the English language.

Somehow it made the linguistic jump from Lat-Am/Hispanic ethnic studies departments onto Twitter by activists. That's why you're seeing it more frequently - because its been trending on Twitter the last few years.

It wouldn't surprise me at all to learn that popularization of the term on social media was inorganically driven by forces seeking to increase divisions in the U.S.

I'm pretty neutral about Latinx but the alternatives Gallego suggests are not great. Latin American implies you're from a country in Latin America. Many Latinos are US born. Hispanic means Spanish-speaking, which basically erases the indigenous heritage of Latinos and makes it all about Spain. Not saying Latinx is the answer but I don't think Gallego is as clever as he thinks he is.

Are "white Hispanics" included in BIPOC?

"Latinx" is something that clumsily works in written form, but not verbal form. It's really an inelegant term, so it really should just be retired from the lexicon. Rep. Gallego above really gets at the crux of the issue - gender-neutral terms already exist in the English language.

Somehow it made the linguistic jump from Lat-Am/Hispanic ethnic studies departments onto Twitter by activists. That's why you're seeing it more frequently - because its been trending on Twitter the last few years.

It wouldn't surprise me at all to learn that popularization of the term on social media was inorganically driven by forces seeking to increase divisions in the U.S.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at a college presentation and tour the other day with my senior and the world language chair used the term "LatinX." Immediately, you could see the parents (and students) shaking their heads and rolling their eyes. Funny how people who use that term are so oblivious to how dopey they look.

I could see the parents, but I don't believe you when you talk about the students. It's common enough among young people that students would not bat an eye.

Sure maybe in the pottery department at Emily Dickinson College, Latinx would be used, but not in the.math department at Carnegie Mellon

Watch out for the kiln, Fawn! I’ve got a baaaaaaddddd feeling about it!

I actually know a professor from Carnegie Mellon. She uses the term. She's in the English department. The point is that some people use it and some don't. It's not a big deal. All of a sudden, Rs care about Latinos. Interesting.

of course they care now. they see it is helping them convince hispanics to vote republican.

Shocker. I know. Some Hispanic people like low taxes for their business, and to refute the soft bigotry of low expectations offered by the democrats. It’s crazy.

And some want to pull up the ladder and not pass DACA

+100

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at a college presentation and tour the other day with my senior and the world language chair used the term "LatinX." Immediately, you could see the parents (and students) shaking their heads and rolling their eyes. Funny how people who use that term are so oblivious to how dopey they look.

I could see the parents, but I don't believe you when you talk about the students. It's common enough among young people that students would not bat an eye.

Sure maybe in the pottery department at Emily Dickinson College, Latinx would be used, but not in the.math department at Carnegie Mellon

Watch out for the kiln, Fawn! I’ve got a baaaaaaddddd feeling about it!

I actually know a professor from Carnegie Mellon. She uses the term. She's in the English department. The point is that some people use it and some don't. It's not a big deal. All of a sudden, Rs care about Latinos. Interesting.

of course they care now. they see it is helping them convince hispanics to vote republican.

Shocker. I know. Some Hispanic people like low taxes for their business, and to refute the soft bigotry of low expectations offered by the democrats. It’s crazy.

And some want to pull up the ladder and not pass DACA

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at a college presentation and tour the other day with my senior and the world language chair used the term "LatinX." Immediately, you could see the parents (and students) shaking their heads and rolling their eyes. Funny how people who use that term are so oblivious to how dopey they look.

I could see the parents, but I don't believe you when you talk about the students. It's common enough among young people that students would not bat an eye.

Sure maybe in the pottery department at Emily Dickinson College, Latinx would be used, but not in the.math department at Carnegie Mellon

Watch out for the kiln, Fawn! I’ve got a baaaaaaddddd feeling about it!

I actually know a professor from Carnegie Mellon. She uses the term. She's in the English department. The point is that some people use it and some don't. It's not a big deal. All of a sudden, Rs care about Latinos. Interesting.

of course they care now. they see it is helping them convince hispanics to vote republican.

Shocker. I know. Some Hispanic people like low taxes for their business, and to refute the soft bigotry of low expectations offered by the democrats. It’s crazy.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one I know uses this term. It is yet again a right wing pushed tripe that people buy into.

I literally heard it on an NBC News report the other day. It sounded weird.

And here it is in the Boston Globe. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bostonglobe.com/2021/11/22/opinion/how-latinx-communities-are-benefiting-bidens-economic-agenda/%3foutputType=amp

New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/29/style/new-latinx-literature.html

CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/10/entertainment/gallery/hollywood-latinxcellence/index.html

CNBC: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/11/17/harvards-student-newspaper-elects-its-first-latinx-president.html

SFGate: https://www.sfgate.com/news/bayarea/article/Sf-City-s-Latinx-Population-Continues-To-See-15792781.php

Are these all products of the imagination of the right?

OK, so lets change the thread title to "Latinx backfires on the media"

No clue what any of those links have to do with the Democratic Party.

+1 Behold this actual elected official in the Democratic Party:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So not all latinos use the term? So what. I don't see what the "backfire" is.

Read the rest of the data in the link.

The backfire is the fact that Latinos are less likely to support anyone who uses the term 'LatinX'. That's true for both democrat and GOP voting Latinos. The use of the made up term 'LatinX' is overwhelmingly by liberal Democrats. They're doing a fine job losing votes for their own party.

Everything is a made-up term. Like "Alt right" instead of "White Supremacist". The difference is alt-right caught on, and Latinx didn't. I'm Latina and I don't mind the term Latinx but no, nobody grew up using it, and White Democrats should have polled Latinos before widely adopting it. But Democrats are idiots that would prefer feeling superior to winning. Which makes them losers.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at a college presentation and tour the other day with my senior and the world language chair used the term "LatinX." Immediately, you could see the parents (and students) shaking their heads and rolling their eyes. Funny how people who use that term are so oblivious to how dopey they look.

I could see the parents, but I don't believe you when you talk about the students. It's common enough among young people that students would not bat an eye.

Sure maybe in the pottery department at Emily Dickinson College, Latinx would be used, but not in the.math department at Carnegie Mellon

Watch out for the kiln, Fawn! I’ve got a baaaaaaddddd feeling about it!

I actually know a professor from Carnegie Mellon. She uses the term. She's in the English department. The point is that some people use it and some don't. It's not a big deal. All of a sudden, Rs care about Latinos. Interesting.

of course they care now. they see it is helping them convince hispanics to vote republican.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was at a college presentation and tour the other day with my senior and the world language chair used the term "LatinX." Immediately, you could see the parents (and students) shaking their heads and rolling their eyes. Funny how people who use that term are so oblivious to how dopey they look.

I could see the parents, but I don't believe you when you talk about the students. It's common enough among young people that students would not bat an eye.

Sure maybe in the pottery department at Emily Dickinson College, Latinx would be used, but not in the.math department at Carnegie Mellon

Watch out for the kiln, Fawn! I’ve got a baaaaaaddddd feeling about it!

I actually know a professor from Carnegie Mellon. She uses the term. She's in the English department. The point is that some people use it and some don't. It's not a big deal. All of a sudden, Rs care about Latinos. Interesting.