Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kid told me that a kid was hit in the head with a chair. Horrifying. Expulsion should ensue if witnesses can corroborate this.
I do not think expulsion exists. Suspension does not really even exist.
It’s against the law to expel a student from public school since the state has a duty to educate them. Mcps used to have several alternative schools for those who couldn’t behave in a traditional classroom. Because these schools turned out mostly black they were shuttered. Now they just keep them home for a week or switch schools.
Exactly this. We have thrown out the baby with the bath water. The result is ghat kids who are potential shooters or have been expelled from other schools are just shuffled around with no real support or consequences.
They can form a virtual program for those kids. They are required to provide an education, does not have to be in person.
+1,000. Problem solved. If your kid won’t behave, enjoy having them back in your living room.
This plus mental health and family intentervention.
The bold would be 100% illegal. Kids have a right to equal access to education. If a child has a mood issu, that child should be evaluated and provided supports. You can suspend them, you can provide alternative in person programming but you cannot simply say “you can never come back to school”. Access to a free and appropriate public education is a civil right, and if you are offering in person school to the general population, you also have to offer it to “troublemakers” in some form.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t think many people want metal detectors. What we want is disruptive and violent pupils removed from the general school population.
In order to catch it, you need things like metal detectors.
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think many people want metal detectors. What we want is disruptive and violent pupils removed from the general school population.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We are have to teach kids to just walk away.
We also need to teach kids to not use cruel words.
Can you just stop? Suggesting this kid deserved to be beat with a chair is really disturbing.
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think many people want metal detectors. What we want is disruptive and violent pupils removed from the general school population.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kid told me that a kid was hit in the head with a chair. Horrifying. Expulsion should ensue if witnesses can corroborate this.
I do not think expulsion exists. Suspension does not really even exist.
It’s against the law to expel a student from public school since the state has a duty to educate them. Mcps used to have several alternative schools for those who couldn’t behave in a traditional classroom. Because these schools turned out mostly black they were shuttered. Now they just keep them home for a week or switch schools.
Exactly this. We have thrown out the baby with the bath water. The result is ghat kids who are potential shooters or have been expelled from other schools are just shuffled around with no real support or consequences.
They can form a virtual program for those kids. They are required to provide an education, does not have to be in person.
+1,000. Problem solved. If your kid won’t behave, enjoy having them back in your living room.
This plus mental health and family intentervention.
The bold would be 100% illegal. Kids have a right to equal access to education. If a child has a mood issu, that child should be evaluated and provided supports. You can suspend them, you can provide alternative in person programming but you cannot simply say “you can never come back to school”. Access to a free and appropriate public education is a civil right, and if you are offering in person school to the general population, you also have to offer it to “troublemakers” in some form.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We are have to teach kids to just walk away.
We also need to teach kids to not use cruel words.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So... what actually happened?
The rumor is that one boy was gently teasing another. That kid went nuts and started beating the crap out of the teaser with a chair, to the point where he was hospitalized. Then he ran off, so the school was put into lockdown.
I don't think metal detectors are helpful if the weapon of choice is a chair. What is needed is better mental health interventions, and removing children with this kind of disposition to more secure facilities where they can be catered for more appropriately.
They are good for knives and guns.
Mental health interventions would not help. This kid was probably teased for years and go to the breaking point. We need to address the issues, like this kid being teased for years, not just put a bandaid via a quick therapy session.
What are you talking about? You have no idea that this kid was being teased for years. That is something you have literally just made up.
It could be that this kid was not being bullied, but is mentally unstable and has a history of violent behavior, and a relatively innocent comment set him off.
In which case, I agree a quick therapy session would not solve anything, but removing him from the general population and putting him in a more suitable setting would be the solution...
There is no such thing as being “gently teased”. Words hurt. Sure, violence is never an answer, but the kid in the hospital is not an innocent victim.
Wtf, of course there is. Kids make mildly reading jokes all the time, all day long. You are a victim blaming idiot unless you have specific knowledge the assailant was actually being bullied.
Look, if your brat is teasing and cannot read social cues of others that its making them uncomfortable, you need to parent your kid better and get them social skills training. This was probably bullying and the kid who attacked had enough. If the bully is bullying all day, every day, there is some merit to the other child snapping. It usually has to be pretty bad to go that far. Maybe your brat will learn from this.
Okay, Mrs. Klebold.
+1
WTAF?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So... what actually happened?
The rumor is that one boy was gently teasing another. That kid went nuts and started beating the crap out of the teaser with a chair, to the point where he was hospitalized. Then he ran off, so the school was put into lockdown.
I don't think metal detectors are helpful if the weapon of choice is a chair. What is needed is better mental health interventions, and removing children with this kind of disposition to more secure facilities where they can be catered for more appropriately.
They are good for knives and guns.
Mental health interventions would not help. This kid was probably teased for years and go to the breaking point. We need to address the issues, like this kid being teased for years, not just put a bandaid via a quick therapy session.
What are you talking about? You have no idea that this kid was being teased for years. That is something you have literally just made up.
It could be that this kid was not being bullied, but is mentally unstable and has a history of violent behavior, and a relatively innocent comment set him off.
In which case, I agree a quick therapy session would not solve anything, but removing him from the general population and putting him in a more suitable setting would be the solution...
There is no such thing as being “gently teased”. Words hurt. Sure, violence is never an answer, but the kid in the hospital is not an innocent victim.
Wtf, of course there is. Kids make mildly reading jokes all the time, all day long. You are a victim blaming idiot unless you have specific knowledge the assailant was actually being bullied.
Look, if your brat is teasing and cannot read social cues of others that its making them uncomfortable, you need to parent your kid better and get them social skills training. This was probably bullying and the kid who attacked had enough. If the bully is bullying all day, every day, there is some merit to the other child snapping. It usually has to be pretty bad to go that far. Maybe your brat will learn from this.
Okay, Mrs. Klebold.
Anonymous wrote:We are have to teach kids to just walk away.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kid told me that a kid was hit in the head with a chair. Horrifying. Expulsion should ensue if witnesses can corroborate this.
I do not think expulsion exists. Suspension does not really even exist.
It’s against the law to expel a student from public school since the state has a duty to educate them. Mcps used to have several alternative schools for those who couldn’t behave in a traditional classroom. Because these schools turned out mostly black they were shuttered. Now they just keep them home for a week or switch schools.
Exactly this. We have thrown out the baby with the bath water. The result is ghat kids who are potential shooters or have been expelled from other schools are just shuffled around with no real support or consequences.
They can form a virtual program for those kids. They are required to provide an education, does not have to be in person.
+1,000. Problem solved. If your kid won’t behave, enjoy having them back in your living room.
This plus mental health and family intentervention.
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think many people want metal detectors. What we want is disruptive and violent pupils removed from the general school population.
Anonymous wrote:I'm in favor of metal detectors and expulsion of students who are aggressive.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm in favor of metal detectors and expulsion of students who are aggressive.
This. And, police in the schools. Let’s not call them sros and bring in police. Enough is enough.
Yeah because metal detectors will keep chairs out of schools. And police in every classroom will stop kids from picking them up and hitting people with them.
Some of you really want to live in a police state.
I'm pretty sure it's part of the GOP strategy to astroturf dissent with local schools and these poster's don't even live here.