Anonymous
11/19/2021 18:28
Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench
We need a populist who will run on economic issues that will help working Americans without all the whole identity politics BS. Happy to vote for someone who is left of center on economics and a sane moderate or agnostic on the culture wars.
Anonymous
11/19/2021 18:17
Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This thread only makes me realize how 2024 is a near cert Democratic loss. None of these alternative names have any shot at winning the presidency. Biden was the Hail Mary because there was *no one else* and now with Biden increasingly gone, there is *no one else*. Most of these names are reflections of the bubble you live in, not a pragmatic understanding of the nature of mass appeal and national campaigns.
+1 Biden was the lowest common denominator candidate and wow did the democratic machine lurch into panicked overdrive when it appeared Bernie was gaining momentum and had a legitimate shot at the nomination. The machine selected Biden and there’s no way he’s going to make it to 2024 so yea, that bench is empty of national level candidates.
Jesus, I cannot with you people. Bernie is not and has never been a Democrat. So it should surprise exactly no one that the Democratic "machine" worked to boost Democratic candidates. And then there is the continuing belief that progressives are this enormous block in politics. They aren't. That is why Bernie lost twice.
Eh, fair enough but he did run in the democratic primary. Progressives are a fringe within the party but why are the moderates so scared of them?
Because we’re interested in winning elections?
Well that’s a stupid strategy because mainstream dems and independents reject the progressive BS.
Anonymous
11/19/2021 18:05
Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench
Anonymous wrote:Given the last president, we are living in a world where a viable candidate does not need to come from government positions. There is something to be said for the point of view that a successful and responsible person with integrity from private enterprise could succeed in the role. As long as that person surrounded themselves with the right advisors and actually had the best interests of the country at heart.
I'm trying to think outside the box in that regard...but I can't come up with anyone.
DC Bureaucracy, Lobbyists, Special Interest, Party National Commitees are never going to allow anyone like that in.
Anonymous
11/19/2021 17:55
Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench
Given the last president, we are living in a world where a viable candidate does not need to come from government positions. There is something to be said for the point of view that a successful and responsible person with integrity from private enterprise could succeed in the role. As long as that person surrounded themselves with the right advisors and actually had the best interests of the country at heart.
I'm trying to think outside the box in that regard...but I can't come up with anyone.
I'm trying to think outside the box in that regard...but I can't come up with anyone.
Anonymous
11/19/2021 17:11
Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench
We need an Obama-level charisma person. Not sure who that would be at this point. I feel Pete has it, but he's too young, and being gay might work against him.
Anonymous
11/19/2021 16:41
Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench
Mark Warner
John Bel Edwards
Jon Tester
Brian Schweitzer
Joe Manchin
Sherrod Brown
John Bel Edwards
Jon Tester
Brian Schweitzer
Joe Manchin
Sherrod Brown
Anonymous
11/19/2021 16:06
Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench
Anonymous wrote:The disrespect being shown to Eric Swalwell in this thread is infuriating.
Who?
Anonymous
11/19/2021 15:56
Subject: Democratic Presidential Bench
Those of you who say Biden, are you kidding? Do you even think he will be alive and with sound mind by the end of his term? He is practically a mummy at this point. Is this going to be a Weekend at Bernies campaign?
Anonymous
11/19/2021 15:33
Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This thread only makes me realize how 2024 is a near cert Democratic loss. None of these alternative names have any shot at winning the presidency. Biden was the Hail Mary because there was *no one else* and now with Biden increasingly gone, there is *no one else*. Most of these names are reflections of the bubble you live in, not a pragmatic understanding of the nature of mass appeal and national campaigns.
+1 Biden was the lowest common denominator candidate and wow did the democratic machine lurch into panicked overdrive when it appeared Bernie was gaining momentum and had a legitimate shot at the nomination. The machine selected Biden and there’s no way he’s going to make it to 2024 so yea, that bench is empty of national level candidates.
Jesus, I cannot with you people. Bernie is not and has never been a Democrat. So it should surprise exactly no one that the Democratic "machine" worked to boost Democratic candidates. And then there is the continuing belief that progressives are this enormous block in politics. They aren't. That is why Bernie lost twice.
Eh, fair enough but he did run in the democratic primary. Progressives are a fringe within the party but why are the moderates so scared of them?
Because we’re interested in winning elections?
Anonymous
11/19/2021 14:56
Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This thread only makes me realize how 2024 is a near cert Democratic loss. None of these alternative names have any shot at winning the presidency. Biden was the Hail Mary because there was *no one else* and now with Biden increasingly gone, there is *no one else*. Most of these names are reflections of the bubble you live in, not a pragmatic understanding of the nature of mass appeal and national campaigns.
+1 Biden was the lowest common denominator candidate and wow did the democratic machine lurch into panicked overdrive when it appeared Bernie was gaining momentum and had a legitimate shot at the nomination. The machine selected Biden and there’s no way he’s going to make it to 2024 so yea, that bench is empty of national level candidates.
Jesus, I cannot with you people. Bernie is not and has never been a Democrat. So it should surprise exactly no one that the Democratic "machine" worked to boost Democratic candidates. And then there is the continuing belief that progressives are this enormous block in politics. They aren't. That is why Bernie lost twice.
Eh, fair enough but he did run in the democratic primary. Progressives are a fringe within the party but why are the moderates so scared of them?
Because you all keep insisting on super unpopular things that you think you can force people to want if you scream about it loud enough?
Why did the Squad vote against infrastructure? Is that the sort of thing that they'd do if they wanted to reassure us boring moderates that we can all play on the same team and we should give them more power?
Anonymous
11/19/2021 14:27
Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This thread only makes me realize how 2024 is a near cert Democratic loss. None of these alternative names have any shot at winning the presidency. Biden was the Hail Mary because there was *no one else* and now with Biden increasingly gone, there is *no one else*. Most of these names are reflections of the bubble you live in, not a pragmatic understanding of the nature of mass appeal and national campaigns.
+1 Biden was the lowest common denominator candidate and wow did the democratic machine lurch into panicked overdrive when it appeared Bernie was gaining momentum and had a legitimate shot at the nomination. The machine selected Biden and there’s no way he’s going to make it to 2024 so yea, that bench is empty of national level candidates.
Jesus, I cannot with you people. Bernie is not and has never been a Democrat. So it should surprise exactly no one that the Democratic "machine" worked to boost Democratic candidates. And then there is the continuing belief that progressives are this enormous block in politics. They aren't. That is why Bernie lost twice.
Of course Bernie is a Democrat. There are only two parties in this country, there is a continuum of views and positions in each.
Is this sarcasm?
Anonymous
11/19/2021 14:23
Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This thread only makes me realize how 2024 is a near cert Democratic loss. None of these alternative names have any shot at winning the presidency. Biden was the Hail Mary because there was *no one else* and now with Biden increasingly gone, there is *no one else*. Most of these names are reflections of the bubble you live in, not a pragmatic understanding of the nature of mass appeal and national campaigns.
+1 Biden was the lowest common denominator candidate and wow did the democratic machine lurch into panicked overdrive when it appeared Bernie was gaining momentum and had a legitimate shot at the nomination. The machine selected Biden and there’s no way he’s going to make it to 2024 so yea, that bench is empty of national level candidates.
Jesus, I cannot with you people. Bernie is not and has never been a Democrat. So it should surprise exactly no one that the Democratic "machine" worked to boost Democratic candidates. And then there is the continuing belief that progressives are this enormous block in politics. They aren't. That is why Bernie lost twice.
Of course Bernie is a Democrat. There are only two parties in this country, there is a continuum of views and positions in each.
Anonymous
11/19/2021 13:59
Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This thread only makes me realize how 2024 is a near cert Democratic loss. None of these alternative names have any shot at winning the presidency. Biden was the Hail Mary because there was *no one else* and now with Biden increasingly gone, there is *no one else*. Most of these names are reflections of the bubble you live in, not a pragmatic understanding of the nature of mass appeal and national campaigns.
+1 Biden was the lowest common denominator candidate and wow did the democratic machine lurch into panicked overdrive when it appeared Bernie was gaining momentum and had a legitimate shot at the nomination. The machine selected Biden and there’s no way he’s going to make it to 2024 so yea, that bench is empty of national level candidates.
Jesus, I cannot with you people. Bernie is not and has never been a Democrat. So it should surprise exactly no one that the Democratic "machine" worked to boost Democratic candidates. And then there is the continuing belief that progressives are this enormous block in politics. They aren't. That is why Bernie lost twice.
Eh, fair enough but he did run in the democratic primary. Progressives are a fringe within the party but why are the moderates so scared of them?
Anonymous
11/19/2021 13:58
Subject: Democratic Presidential Bench
Anonymous wrote:Well it was Cuomo but that’s not going to happen. It’s an interesting question. Many have have been pushing Stacey Abrams but I think they’ve seen how their diversity hires work out. Eric Adams is an interesting blueprint for a sane democrat. Bill Maher is probably the closest the liberals have to a smart, informed truth-teller who isn’t afraid of the mob and is completely inoculated from the woke BS.
Stacy Abrams is hardly a diversity hire. What the hell? She saved the democracy and she'd be a diversity hire? Wow.
Anonymous
11/19/2021 13:57
Subject: Re:Democratic Presidential Bench
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This thread only makes me realize how 2024 is a near cert Democratic loss. None of these alternative names have any shot at winning the presidency. Biden was the Hail Mary because there was *no one else* and now with Biden increasingly gone, there is *no one else*. Most of these names are reflections of the bubble you live in, not a pragmatic understanding of the nature of mass appeal and national campaigns.
+1 Biden was the lowest common denominator candidate and wow did the democratic machine lurch into panicked overdrive when it appeared Bernie was gaining momentum and had a legitimate shot at the nomination. The machine selected Biden and there’s no way he’s going to make it to 2024 so yea, that bench is empty of national level candidates.
Jesus, I cannot with you people. Bernie is not and has never been a Democrat. So it should surprise exactly no one that the Democratic "machine" worked to boost Democratic candidates. And then there is the continuing belief that progressives are this enormous block in politics. They aren't. That is why Bernie lost twice.