Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 16:56     Subject: Re:If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Far left woke idealogy. We need to move back towards the center.


What is this, though?

I've seen it stated several times (maybe the same poster) in various elections threads, but I've never seen this "left woke ideology" defined. What points are too far left for you?

I'm a moderate who cast a mixed ballot this time.

My most liberal view, IMO, is that police forces do need defunded. I work closely with police agencies due to my job and I see constant mismanagement and overall incompetence hinder the outcome of court cases. Defunded to me is not a dismantling of the police at all (I also don't think that will ever happen; I mean, look at how Minneapolis voted yesterday), but reallocating funds within the department to add in mental health experts as well as for more training for officers.

My most conservative view, IMO, is that I don't think weed should be legal. I also back the 2nd Amendment, so maybe that's my most conservative view?

I hope it doesn't come off as snark or anything because I honestly want to understand the views/points that are considered too far left.


This is not a joke or brush-off or gotcha. If you're genuinely interested in better understanding of the moderate, right-of-center mentality, read Ross Douthat's column in the NYT.


I'd recommend the Commentary Magazine podcast, Three Martini Lunch podcast or Ruthless podcast - none of them are fans of Trump and bash crazy republicans, and generally call balls and strikes. I also listen to Breaking Points podcast to get an alternative view of the issues without the bias and sneering.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 16:55     Subject: Re:If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:Education is just the “cause” that white tribalism got behind this time. The “cause” shifts around. Remember Trump voters who just had “economic insecurity?” It’s the same thing. Youngkin didn’t have any education proposals that are meaningful. Having him as Governor vs McAuliffe (who is a centrist, after all) won’t change anything meaningful about schools or what they teach or how.


Maybe in your white tribalism world, but in the world where people are tired terms like white tribalism, it will.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 16:55     Subject: If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:Progressivism has grown too radical and, ironically, extremely illiberal. We need to push back in every way we can, and in this case, that included voting straight ticket Republican.


Good point.

They no longer have a place for even free speech, civil liberties democrats.

Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 16:54     Subject: Re:If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:D's in the last 4 years transformed themselves into a beast that moderate democrats can no longer identify with
for example:

1. Socialist policies in School
2. Equity in small conversation and name calling those don't agree
3. Cancel Culture
4. Believing they are better and calling everyone else racists


Well, generally better educated, and with capacity for critical thinking and rational thought. "Better" is a value judgement. The balance of your post is nonsense.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 16:54     Subject: If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Progressivism has grown too radical and, ironically, extremely illiberal. We need to push back in every way we can, and in this case, that included voting straight ticket Republican.


This. The illiberal left is scary.


I don’t understand what illiberal left means. It was in a news article today and I also didn’t understand it then.



Then you’re simply not very bright. I don’t know what you want us to tell you.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 16:52     Subject: If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Progressivism has grown too radical and, ironically, extremely illiberal. We need to push back in every way we can, and in this case, that included voting straight ticket Republican.


This. The illiberal left is scary.


I don’t understand what illiberal left means. It was in a news article today and I also didn’t understand it then.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 16:51     Subject: Re:If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Far left woke idealogy. We need to move back towards the center.


What is this, though?

I've seen it stated several times (maybe the same poster) in various elections threads, but I've never seen this "left woke ideology" defined. What points are too far left for you?

I'm a moderate who cast a mixed ballot this time.

My most liberal view, IMO, is that police forces do need defunded. I work closely with police agencies due to my job and I see constant mismanagement and overall incompetence hinder the outcome of court cases. Defunded to me is not a dismantling of the police at all (I also don't think that will ever happen; I mean, look at how Minneapolis voted yesterday), but reallocating funds within the department to add in mental health experts as well as for more training for officers.

My most conservative view, IMO, is that I don't think weed should be legal. I also back the 2nd Amendment, so maybe that's my most conservative view?

I hope it doesn't come off as snark or anything because I honestly want to understand the views/points that are considered too far left.


I think getting rid of G&T and advanced math track in the name of equity was liberal and unpopular.


This is critical for many parents. I still voted for McAuliffe, but I'm not happy about the changes to math, and other parents are upset about TJ admission changes.


You’re quoting me and I voted D but not thrilled about the math thing particularly and I found the Ds disingenuous when they said it wasn’t happening. I think it was being considered and they only scrapped it when it was publicized and people were mad.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 16:50     Subject: If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:Why when a republican wins, the democrats wring their hands but when a dem wins, the Republicans say the election was stolen?


That answer was non-responsive to the question. Schools will not let you get away with that work product any longer. We are restoring education. Now try again please.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 16:50     Subject: If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:I hate wokeness with a passion. I will vote as right wing as possible to try and cancel out wokeness.



+1
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 16:49     Subject: Re:If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He was the only candidate not to embrace a man who wore blackface and a KKK costume.


Do you think kids from the 90s who wore paper bag headdresses with colorful construction paper feathers and danced around to fake Native American dances should be cancelled? Because I've got K-grade 5 worth of class photos of this practice and names I can provide along with mine for cancelling.

You can't be for cancelling one and not the other.

The best part of growing older is growing wiser through constant learning.

I cringe now when I see a photo of me dressed like a Native American for the school assembly. I had forgotten all about those classroom activities until about 3 years ago when I saw a photo at my parent's house while my mom was reorganizing. We did stupid things years ago. We had no idea what cultural appropriation was, we used the r word for everything along with the f gay slur, we also said that everything was "gay", and I remember a trend in college where people said the word n-i-k-k-a in place of the n word. But we grew up and we learned that those things were wrong, we learned why they were wrong, and we stopped doing them.



Why do you cringe at those photos now? Weren’t you learning about Native American history and culture in a age appropriate way? Kids today are missing that.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 16:45     Subject: If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:Progressivism has grown too radical and, ironically, extremely illiberal. We need to push back in every way we can, and in this case, that included voting straight ticket Republican.


This. The illiberal left is scary.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 16:45     Subject: If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

I hate wokeness with a passion. I will vote as right wing as possible to try and cancel out wokeness.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 16:44     Subject: Re:If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:He was the only candidate not to embrace a man who wore blackface and a KKK costume.


Do you think kids from the 90s who wore paper bag headdresses with colorful construction paper feathers and danced around to fake Native American dances should be cancelled? Because I've got K-grade 5 worth of class photos of this practice and names I can provide along with mine for cancelling.

You can't be for cancelling one and not the other.

The best part of growing older is growing wiser through constant learning.

I cringe now when I see a photo of me dressed like a Native American for the school assembly. I had forgotten all about those classroom activities until about 3 years ago when I saw a photo at my parent's house while my mom was reorganizing. We did stupid things years ago. We had no idea what cultural appropriation was, we used the r word for everything along with the f gay slur, we also said that everything was "gay", and I remember a trend in college where people said the word n-i-k-k-a in place of the n word. But we grew up and we learned that those things were wrong, we learned why they were wrong, and we stopped doing them.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 16:43     Subject: Re:If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Far left woke idealogy. We need to move back towards the center.


What is this, though?

I've seen it stated several times (maybe the same poster) in various elections threads, but I've never seen this "left woke ideology" defined. What points are too far left for you?

I'm a moderate who cast a mixed ballot this time.

My most liberal view, IMO, is that police forces do need defunded. I work closely with police agencies due to my job and I see constant mismanagement and overall incompetence hinder the outcome of court cases. Defunded to me is not a dismantling of the police at all (I also don't think that will ever happen; I mean, look at how Minneapolis voted yesterday), but reallocating funds within the department to add in mental health experts as well as for more training for officers.

My most conservative view, IMO, is that I don't think weed should be legal. I also back the 2nd Amendment, so maybe that's my most conservative view?

I hope it doesn't come off as snark or anything because I honestly want to understand the views/points that are considered too far left.


I think getting rid of G&T and advanced math track in the name of equity was liberal and unpopular.


This is critical for many parents. I still voted for McAuliffe, but I'm not happy about the changes to math, and other parents are upset about TJ admission changes.
Anonymous
Post 11/03/2021 16:42     Subject: Re:If you voted for Youngkin, what was the number one reason?

Anonymous wrote:D's in the last 4 years transformed themselves into a beast that moderate democrats can no longer identify with
for example:

1. Socialist policies in School
2. Equity in small conversation and name calling those don't agree
3. Cancel Culture
4. Believing they are better and calling everyone else racists


I don't even understand what you are trying to say here.