Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is one of those things that bothered me as a childless observer but stopped bothering me as a mom who saw the totality of these girls’ interests and experiences.

Also, watch Brave. Brave and Mulan are my two favorite disney princess movies. But I think we can also give a shout out to Snow White, who was a kind and forgiving person who maintained a positive attitude despite significant life setbacks and also displayed remarkably little ageism or abilityism — how many medieval nobles would be willing to sweep the floor for a household of little people? Sure, she didn’t save herself but isn’t there a quiet heroism in maintaining your dignity, kindness and tolerance in a world that is set up to deprive you of agency over your own future? Just a thought….

The Rapunesel story is the one that really creeps me out with the demonized mother figure. And Beauty and the Beast because the Beast clearly has deep seated anger control issues and is probably emotionally or physically abusing her before their fifth wedding anniversary. But the yellow dress is pretty and I like her hair.

You may like this article, PP. https://medium.com/@gbailen/disney-princesses-ranked-from-least-to-most-feminist-5addd29141b0

Interesting. I was wondering why PP hadn't mentioned badass Moana!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I a bad person that I have a visceral reaction when I see girls in traditional princess costumes? If they’re non-traditional like Mulan or Leia (ie people who actually DO something) I’m okay with it. Even the Frozen princesses who are so popular nowadays seem to just exist to be blonde and pretty. Btw I have a 5yo and so far we’ve been doing creative/neutral costumes like doctor or monkey, but she’s starting to get influenced by her K classmates :-/

Yes.

I agree. Op, have you seen frozen or are you just so woke that you're assuming the non traditional (read: nonwhite, apparently)heroines are by default more important and valuable?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I a bad person that I have a visceral reaction when I see girls in traditional princess costumes? If they’re non-traditional like Mulan or Leia (ie people who actually DO something) I’m okay with it. Even the Frozen princesses who are so popular nowadays seem to just exist to be blonde and pretty. Btw I have a 5yo and so far we’ve been doing creative/neutral costumes like doctor or monkey, but she’s starting to get influenced by her K classmates :-/

I don’t think you are a bad person, but it is bad. You may want to think about getting therapy to understand why it bothers you so much.

Oh I know why it bothers me - because I respect (and want DD to emulate) people who do things rather than people who are just pretty. Same reason I prefer Elena Kagan to Kim Kardashian. But yes, I should recognize it’s a phase, likely fueled by peer pressure, and has little bearing on future interests.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is one of those things that bothered me as a childless observer but stopped bothering me as a mom who saw the totality of these girls’ interests and experiences.

Also, watch Brave. Brave and Mulan are my two favorite disney princess movies. But I think we can also give a shout out to Snow White, who was a kind and forgiving person who maintained a positive attitude despite significant life setbacks and also displayed remarkably little ageism or abilityism — how many medieval nobles would be willing to sweep the floor for a household of little people? Sure, she didn’t save herself but isn’t there a quiet heroism in maintaining your dignity, kindness and tolerance in a world that is set up to deprive you of agency over your own future? Just a thought….

The Rapunesel story is the one that really creeps me out with the demonized mother figure. And Beauty and the Beast because the Beast clearly has deep seated anger control issues and is probably emotionally or physically abusing her before their fifth wedding anniversary. But the yellow dress is pretty and I like her hair.

You may like this article, PP. https://medium.com/@gbailen/disney-princesses-ranked-from-least-to-most-feminist-5addd29141b0

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I a bad person that I have a visceral reaction when I see girls in traditional princess costumes? If they’re non-traditional like Mulan or Leia (ie people who actually DO something) I’m okay with it. Even the Frozen princesses who are so popular nowadays seem to just exist to be blonde and pretty. Btw I have a 5yo and so far we’ve been doing creative/neutral costumes like doctor or monkey, but she’s starting to get influenced by her K classmates :-/

Yes.

Anonymous wrote:I follow my daughter’s lead. She loves to read and write stories, likes math, and is a good student. She also loves princesses, unicorns, rainbows, shiny things, dressing up etc because she’s 6 and those things make her happy!

Anonymous wrote:This is one of those things that bothered me as a childless observer but stopped bothering me as a mom who saw the totality of these girls’ interests and experiences.

Also, watch Brave. Brave and Mulan are my two favorite disney princess movies. But I think we can also give a shout out to Snow White, who was a kind and forgiving person who maintained a positive attitude despite significant life setbacks and also displayed remarkably little ageism or abilityism — how many medieval nobles would be willing to sweep the floor for a household of little people? Sure, she didn’t save herself but isn’t there a quiet heroism in maintaining your dignity, kindness and tolerance in a world that is set up to deprive you of agency over your own future? Just a thought….

The Rapunesel story is the one that really creeps me out with the demonized mother figure. And Beauty and the Beast because the Beast clearly has deep seated anger control issues and is probably emotionally or physically abusing her before their fifth wedding anniversary. But the yellow dress is pretty and I like her hair.