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Anonymous wrote:For people who are saying it’s the same, how old are your kids? Do you have teens yet? Dealing with the academic, social, and emotional issues that are part and parcel with adolescence - not to mention the money, COLLEGE - should pretty quickly convince you the two things are nothing alike.

I have a dog and I love him to death. But, if I were to anthropomorphize him and make an analogy to human relationships, I’d say he is more like my friend than my child.

There are some similarities between puppies and babies. But it ends at that stage, imho. Dogs are awesome when they grow out of the puppy stage.

What posters said the bolded, PP??

Unless I missed a post, the posters are saying exactly what you said:

"There are some similarities between puppies and babies."



[Childless dog owner PP]

Shay I’m saying is that it’s fine to notice the similarities between puppies and babies. But to equate owning a dog with raising a baby to adulthood is asinine.

More than that though, I think the dog-human connection is more about friendship and companionship than nurturing and parenting. So more of a connection between equals than the power differential between parent-child.

Which, literally, no one is doing.

Oh really? Then what’s up with all the childless women who want “fur mom” cards from their SOs, parents, and in laws on Mother’s Day? There was a long thread about this last year. Plus I’ve seen the cards proliferating in the grocery store and target. Thanks influencers get called out for not being inclusive enough by including fur moms on Mother’s Day (I work in social media marketing and have to study trends lfor or this). It’s definitely a thing now. Probably because so many millennials are forgoing children.

Are you the first PP of this string? If so, I believed you were referring to posters in this thread because you said, "For people who are saying it’s the same, how old are your kids?" People in this thread are saying there are similarities and differences in taking care of puppies and babies....which is quite obviously true. That's not the same thing as saying taking care of them are "the same."

Furthermore, no one in this thread is equating owning a dog to raising a baby to adulthood. Literally, no one.

That's all I'm saying, PP. People in the history of the world believe all sorts of things. I would never say no one in the world thinks one way or another. But, you guys are claiming people here are saying things they are not....and getting indignant about it.

I have two dogs, but I don't use the phrase fur mom. I don't know anyone who does, actually. (I'm not sure where you are seeing "all the childless women" who want to be called fur mom.) That said, I don't think people who use that term necessarily equate raising a puppy to raising a child to adulthood. You're making an assumption there...and, honestly, it makes you look a little insecure. Who cares if they do? It doesn't make you less of a mom. It doesn't take away from you or your motherhood. It wouldn't mean you get fewer gifts and recognition for your sacrifices as a mother.

Really. why do you care about what childless women say or want and what cards in the grocery stores say??

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Anonymous wrote:For people who are saying it’s the same, how old are your kids? Do you have teens yet? Dealing with the academic, social, and emotional issues that are part and parcel with adolescence - not to mention the money, COLLEGE - should pretty quickly convince you the two things are nothing alike.

I have a dog and I love him to death. But, if I were to anthropomorphize him and make an analogy to human relationships, I’d say he is more like my friend than my child.

There are some similarities between puppies and babies. But it ends at that stage, imho. Dogs are awesome when they grow out of the puppy stage.

What posters said the bolded, PP??

Unless I missed a post, the posters are saying exactly what you said:

"There are some similarities between puppies and babies."



[Childless dog owner PP]

Shay I’m saying is that it’s fine to notice the similarities between puppies and babies. But to equate owning a dog with raising a baby to adulthood is asinine.

More than that though, I think the dog-human connection is more about friendship and companionship than nurturing and parenting. So more of a connection between equals than the power differential between parent-child.

Which, literally, no one is doing.

Oh really? Then what’s up with all the childless women who want “fur mom” cards from their SOs, parents, and in laws on Mother’s Day? There was a long thread about this last year. Plus I’ve seen the cards proliferating in the grocery store and target. Thanks influencers get called out for not being inclusive enough by including fur moms on Mother’s Day (I work in social media marketing and have to study trends lfor or this). It’s definitely a thing now. Probably because so many millennials are forgoing children.

Anonymous wrote:Just wanted to add to this argument by saying that with a baby, a biological mom goes through 9 months of pregnancy and postpartum recovery, in addition to (often) breastfeeding the baby for months or years, throughout the day and night, staring at 30 minute sessions every 2-3 hours, where she cannot really do anything else for the duration of the feeding. Tell me again that having a baby and a puppy are the same.

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Just wanted to add to this argument by saying that with a baby, a biological mom goes through 9 months of pregnancy and postpartum recovery, in addition to (often) breastfeeding the baby for months or years, throughout the day and night, staring at 30 minute sessions every 2-3 hours, where she cannot really do anything else for the duration of the feeding. Tell me again that having a baby and a puppy are the same.

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Anonymous wrote:For people who are saying it’s the same, how old are your kids? Do you have teens yet? Dealing with the academic, social, and emotional issues that are part and parcel with adolescence - not to mention the money, COLLEGE - should pretty quickly convince you the two things are nothing alike.

I have a dog and I love him to death. But, if I were to anthropomorphize him and make an analogy to human relationships, I’d say he is more like my friend than my child.

There are some similarities between puppies and babies. But it ends at that stage, imho. Dogs are awesome when they grow out of the puppy stage.

What posters said the bolded, PP??

Unless I missed a post, the posters are saying exactly what you said:

"There are some similarities between puppies and babies."



[Childless dog owner PP]

Shay I’m saying is that it’s fine to notice the similarities between puppies and babies. But to equate owning a dog with raising a baby to adulthood is asinine.

More than that though, I think the dog-human connection is more about friendship and companionship than nurturing and parenting. So more of a connection between equals than the power differential between parent-child.

Which, literally, no one is doing.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll never understand the urge to make fun of or pick on people you think are pathetic.
If you think some middle aged childless spinster who loves her dog is such a tragic person, just go hug your spouse and kids and be grateful that your life isn't so sad. Ask yourself why you feel the need to complain about or mock people you feel sorry for.

Because these people want their dogs treated as children and allowed in the same places. It would be one thing if they kept their behavior to their own hole but it spills out everywhere. This is how you get dogs on tables on restaurants and dogs slobbering on food at the grocery store.

It sounds like your problem is with stores and restaurants that allow dogs. Choose places that prohibit them—you’ll be much happier.

Lol if only it were that easy. People ignore signs and take their dogs everywhere.

Because they think of their dogs as equivalent to children.

But how does it affect you really? So my neighbor/friend thinks of their dog as "their baby?" who cares?

Because they feel superior to childless dog owners and they want childless dog owners to affirm that belief. They can’t accept that having a dog and no kids could be meaningful and that the childless dog owner could be just as happy with their choices.

I mean honestly I do feel superior to someone who thinks their dog is the same as a child. But I don’t need anyone to affirm that for me.

You’re not, sweetie.

Those people wouldn’t feel the need to post something so gosch.

*gauche*

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Anonymous wrote:For people who are saying it’s the same, how old are your kids? Do you have teens yet? Dealing with the academic, social, and emotional issues that are part and parcel with adolescence - not to mention the money, COLLEGE - should pretty quickly convince you the two things are nothing alike.

I have a dog and I love him to death. But, if I were to anthropomorphize him and make an analogy to human relationships, I’d say he is more like my friend than my child.

There are some similarities between puppies and babies. But it ends at that stage, imho. Dogs are awesome when they grow out of the puppy stage.

What posters said the bolded, PP??

Unless I missed a post, the posters are saying exactly what you said:

"There are some similarities between puppies and babies."



[Childless dog owner PP]

Shay I’m saying is that it’s fine to notice the similarities between puppies and babies. But to equate owning a dog with raising a baby to adulthood is asinine.

More than that though, I think the dog-human connection is more about friendship and companionship than nurturing and parenting. So more of a connection between equals than the power differential between parent-child.

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Anonymous wrote:For people who are saying it’s the same, how old are your kids? Do you have teens yet? Dealing with the academic, social, and emotional issues that are part and parcel with adolescence - not to mention the money, COLLEGE - should pretty quickly convince you the two things are nothing alike.

I have a dog and I love him to death. But, if I were to anthropomorphize him and make an analogy to human relationships, I’d say he is more like my friend than my child.

There are some similarities between puppies and babies. But it ends at that stage, imho. Dogs are awesome when they grow out of the puppy stage.

Yes this. I feel like m dog is there for me in a way that my kids are not. Like, I’m *her* primary concern, which is not something that is even on my kids’ radar (and shouldn’t be).

It’s a two way relationship rather than just one way, like it is with kids.

That's not true about puppies, which is where the similarities are.

Anonymous wrote:For people who are saying it’s the same, how old are your kids? Do you have teens yet? Dealing with the academic, social, and emotional issues that are part and parcel with adolescence - not to mention the money, COLLEGE - should pretty quickly convince you the two things are nothing alike.

I have a dog and I love him to death. But, if I were to anthropomorphize him and make an analogy to human relationships, I’d say he is more like my friend than my child.

There are some similarities between puppies and babies. But it ends at that stage, imho. Dogs are awesome when they grow out of the puppy stage.

What posters said the bolded, PP??

Unless I missed a post, the posters are saying exactly what you said:

"There are some similarities between puppies and babies."



[Childless dog owner PP]

Anonymous wrote:For people who are saying it’s the same, how old are your kids? Do you have teens yet? Dealing with the academic, social, and emotional issues that are part and parcel with adolescence - not to mention the money, COLLEGE - should pretty quickly convince you the two things are nothing alike.

I have a dog and I love him to death. But, if I were to anthropomorphize him and make an analogy to human relationships, I’d say he is more like my friend than my child.

There are some similarities between puppies and babies. But it ends at that stage, imho. Dogs are awesome when they grow out of the puppy stage.

Yes this. I feel like m dog is there for me in a way that my kids are not. Like, I’m *her* primary concern, which is not something that is even on my kids’ radar (and shouldn’t be).

It’s a two way relationship rather than just one way, like it is with kids.

For people who are saying it’s the same, how old are your kids? Do you have teens yet? Dealing with the academic, social, and emotional issues that are part and parcel with adolescence - not to mention the money, COLLEGE - should pretty quickly convince you the two things are nothing alike.

I have a dog and I love him to death. But, if I were to anthropomorphize him and make an analogy to human relationships, I’d say he is more like my friend than my child.

There are some similarities between puppies and babies. But it ends at that stage, imho. Dogs are awesome when they grow out of the puppy stage.

Anonymous wrote:I'll never understand the urge to make fun of or pick on people you think are pathetic.
If you think some middle aged childless spinster who loves her dog is such a tragic person, just go hug your spouse and kids and be grateful that your life isn't so sad. Ask yourself why you feel the need to complain about or mock people you feel sorry for.

Lol. You realize you’re insulting childless “dog parents” pretty hard while attempting to chastise the OP, right? Kind of an equal opportunity hater, I guess.

People obsessed with dogs are annoying.

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Anonymous wrote:Christ, how bored and angry are DCUM posters that this same exact topic comes up - what, every two months?

We know. You hate pets. You think people without kids are just husks of human beings. Dogs are too many places anymore! And cats, up on the counter - the horror!

Get. Over. Yourselves.

There is one specific poster (Pet Troll- Jeff is familiar) who constantly brings this up. I swear her husband left her for a childless woman with a dog and now she spends her evenings drinking wine and screaming at pictures of her kids happy with new woman and a Golden Retriever, "I'm a MOTHER. I.AM. THE. MOOOOOTTTHHHER" while writing out these ridiculous screeds. Certainly seems super happy with life, really content and secure.

PP with kids and dogs.

Sorry but there are more than a few people who are sick of all the dog related nonsense. Better get used to leaving your dog home because the backlash is coming.

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Anonymous wrote:I'll never understand the urge to make fun of or pick on people you think are pathetic.
If you think some middle aged childless spinster who loves her dog is such a tragic person, just go hug your spouse and kids and be grateful that your life isn't so sad. Ask yourself why you feel the need to complain about or mock people you feel sorry for.

Because these people want their dogs treated as children and allowed in the same places. It would be one thing if they kept their behavior to their own hole but it spills out everywhere. This is how you get dogs on tables on restaurants and dogs slobbering on food at the grocery store.

It sounds like your problem is with stores and restaurants that allow dogs. Choose places that prohibit them—you’ll be much happier.

Lol if only it were that easy. People ignore signs and take their dogs everywhere.

Because they think of their dogs as equivalent to children.

But how does it affect you really? So my neighbor/friend thinks of their dog as "their baby?" who cares?

Because they feel superior to childless dog owners and they want childless dog owners to affirm that belief. They can’t accept that having a dog and no kids could be meaningful and that the childless dog owner could be just as happy with their choices.

I mean honestly I do feel superior to someone who thinks their dog is the same as a child. But I don’t need anyone to affirm that for me.

You’re not, sweetie.

Those people wouldn’t feel the need to post something so gosch.