Anonymous
10/13/2021 22:51
Subject: Parents of diverse kid: does diversity on a team matter to you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A person can’t be diverse FYI. A team can be. A person cannot.
I am a paranoid schizophrenic.
I guess OP meant diverse background…
OP here, yes that’s what I meant, I didn’t want to limit it…was hoping to get responses from
anyone who considered themselves as having a diverse background/situation.
Why did you start this thread? It's so silly. We are all wonderful human beings and that's all that matters. Only silly people worry about meaningless differences in background.
Then you are lucky that you have not experienced being disadvantaged in life because of your background. And if you have, slow clap for you for weathering it well.
I think you are missing my point. All this talk does not help anyone, least of all anyone who is experiencing challenges.
And you are missing the point of the post. Who are you to say what is helpful or not? Sharing and comparing experiences is almost always helpful for those who are experiencing challenges.
Depends how it's done. It very frequently turns into a destructive orgy of self pity and scapegoating even with people who share experiences and goals. Here on this forum it will also turn into an ideological argument because many will not trust that you are genuine - largely because most of the people spearheading these sort of debates in our body politic have ulterior motives themselves.
If you want to organize an actual group of people to get together and discuss successes and ideas then that might be a good idea, but be careful you have a leader who keeps the group focused positively.
Personally I have not seen any serious systemic issues or challenges worthy of discussion related to diversity in youth soccer in this area, and I doubt your sincerity myself.
Agree with PP, why are you in the SOCCER forum? I see a lot of cheap grammar here... Got any actual athletic skills or diversity that you can contribute to the thread?
I'm in the SOCCER forum to talk about SOCCER, unlike the OP who wants to talk about politics which is why they started this thread which has a lot to do with politics and really nothing to do with SOCCER at all.
Good grief…how are families’ experience with diversity or lack of in their children’s soccer experience not about soccer? This is a soccer forum in a parent site.
You and the number of trolling posts are why parents create these types of posts. You’re basically proving that if parents speak up, their concerns will be brushed away and not taken seriously because it’s just “political.”
Their concerns will be brushed away because that's what they deserve. I doubt they're even parents who create these posts, and I certainly doubt they're sincere. They're just troublemakers attempting to create problems, or perhaps just the perception of them, where none exist.
Anonymous
10/13/2021 17:43
Subject: Parents of diverse kid: does diversity on a team matter to you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A person can’t be diverse FYI. A team can be. A person cannot.
I am a paranoid schizophrenic.
I guess OP meant diverse background…
OP here, yes that’s what I meant, I didn’t want to limit it…was hoping to get responses from
anyone who considered themselves as having a diverse background/situation.
Why did you start this thread? It's so silly. We are all wonderful human beings and that's all that matters. Only silly people worry about meaningless differences in background.
Then you are lucky that you have not experienced being disadvantaged in life because of your background. And if you have, slow clap for you for weathering it well.
I think you are missing my point. All this talk does not help anyone, least of all anyone who is experiencing challenges.
And you are missing the point of the post. Who are you to say what is helpful or not? Sharing and comparing experiences is almost always helpful for those who are experiencing challenges.
Depends how it's done. It very frequently turns into a destructive orgy of self pity and scapegoating even with people who share experiences and goals. Here on this forum it will also turn into an ideological argument because many will not trust that you are genuine - largely because most of the people spearheading these sort of debates in our body politic have ulterior motives themselves.
If you want to organize an actual group of people to get together and discuss successes and ideas then that might be a good idea, but be careful you have a leader who keeps the group focused positively.
Personally I have not seen any serious systemic issues or challenges worthy of discussion related to diversity in youth soccer in this area, and I doubt your sincerity myself.
Agree with PP, why are you in the SOCCER forum? I see a lot of cheap grammar here... Got any actual athletic skills or diversity that you can contribute to the thread?
I'm in the SOCCER forum to talk about SOCCER, unlike the OP who wants to talk about politics which is why they started this thread which has a lot to do with politics and really nothing to do with SOCCER at all.
Good grief…how are families’ experience with diversity or lack of in their children’s soccer experience not about soccer? This is a soccer forum in a parent site.
You and the number of trolling posts are why parents create these types of posts. You’re basically proving that if parents speak up, their concerns will be brushed away and not taken seriously because it’s just “political.”
The racial makeup of a team is the posters concerns?
Anonymous
10/13/2021 17:00
Subject: Parents of diverse kid: does diversity on a team matter to you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A person can’t be diverse FYI. A team can be. A person cannot.
I am a paranoid schizophrenic.
I guess OP meant diverse background…
OP here, yes that’s what I meant, I didn’t want to limit it…was hoping to get responses from
anyone who considered themselves as having a diverse background/situation.
Why did you start this thread? It's so silly. We are all wonderful human beings and that's all that matters. Only silly people worry about meaningless differences in background.
Then you are lucky that you have not experienced being disadvantaged in life because of your background. And if you have, slow clap for you for weathering it well.
I think you are missing my point. All this talk does not help anyone, least of all anyone who is experiencing challenges.
And you are missing the point of the post. Who are you to say what is helpful or not? Sharing and comparing experiences is almost always helpful for those who are experiencing challenges.
Depends how it's done. It very frequently turns into a destructive orgy of self pity and scapegoating even with people who share experiences and goals. Here on this forum it will also turn into an ideological argument because many will not trust that you are genuine - largely because most of the people spearheading these sort of debates in our body politic have ulterior motives themselves.
If you want to organize an actual group of people to get together and discuss successes and ideas then that might be a good idea, but be careful you have a leader who keeps the group focused positively.
Personally I have not seen any serious systemic issues or challenges worthy of discussion related to diversity in youth soccer in this area, and I doubt your sincerity myself.
Agree with PP, why are you in the SOCCER forum? I see a lot of cheap grammar here... Got any actual athletic skills or diversity that you can contribute to the thread?
I'm in the SOCCER forum to talk about SOCCER, unlike the OP who wants to talk about politics which is why they started this thread which has a lot to do with politics and really nothing to do with SOCCER at all.
Good grief…how are families’ experience with diversity or lack of in their children’s soccer experience not about soccer? This is a soccer forum in a parent site.
You and the number of trolling posts are why parents create these types of posts. You’re basically proving that if parents speak up, their concerns will be brushed away and not taken seriously because it’s just “political.”
Anonymous
10/13/2021 16:43
Subject: Parents of diverse kid: does diversity on a team matter to you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A person can’t be diverse FYI. A team can be. A person cannot.
I am a paranoid schizophrenic.
I guess OP meant diverse background…
OP here, yes that’s what I meant, I didn’t want to limit it…was hoping to get responses from
anyone who considered themselves as having a diverse background/situation.
Why did you start this thread? It's so silly. We are all wonderful human beings and that's all that matters. Only silly people worry about meaningless differences in background.
Then you are lucky that you have not experienced being disadvantaged in life because of your background. And if you have, slow clap for you for weathering it well.
I think you are missing my point. All this talk does not help anyone, least of all anyone who is experiencing challenges.
And you are missing the point of the post. Who are you to say what is helpful or not? Sharing and comparing experiences is almost always helpful for those who are experiencing challenges.
Depends how it's done. It very frequently turns into a destructive orgy of self pity and scapegoating even with people who share experiences and goals. Here on this forum it will also turn into an ideological argument because many will not trust that you are genuine - largely because most of the people spearheading these sort of debates in our body politic have ulterior motives themselves.
If you want to organize an actual group of people to get together and discuss successes and ideas then that might be a good idea, but be careful you have a leader who keeps the group focused positively.
Personally I have not seen any serious systemic issues or challenges worthy of discussion related to diversity in youth soccer in this area, and I doubt your sincerity myself.
Agree with PP, why are you in the SOCCER forum? I see a lot of cheap grammar here... Got any actual athletic skills or diversity that you can contribute to the thread?
I'm in the SOCCER forum to talk about SOCCER, unlike the OP who wants to talk about politics which is why they started this thread which has a lot to do with politics and really nothing to do with SOCCER at all.
Anonymous
10/13/2021 15:26
Subject: Parents of diverse kid: does diversity on a team matter to you?
Who cares! Just send all your complains to USSoccer through the anonymous message.
Anonymous
10/13/2021 15:08
Subject: Parents of diverse kid: does diversity on a team matter to you?
Someone, please kill this thread. Put a knife thru the heart of the woke mentality that runs thru DC like the Potomac after a hurricane.
Anonymous
10/13/2021 15:03
Subject: Parents of diverse kid: does diversity on a team matter to you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A person can’t be diverse FYI. A team can be. A person cannot.
I am a paranoid schizophrenic.
I guess OP meant diverse background…
OP here, yes that’s what I meant, I didn’t want to limit it…was hoping to get responses from
anyone who considered themselves as having a diverse background/situation.
Why did you start this thread? It's so silly. We are all wonderful human beings and that's all that matters. Only silly people worry about meaningless differences in background.
Then you are lucky that you have not experienced being disadvantaged in life because of your background. And if you have, slow clap for you for weathering it well.
I think you are missing my point. All this talk does not help anyone, least of all anyone who is experiencing challenges.
And you are missing the point of the post. Who are you to say what is helpful or not? Sharing and comparing experiences is almost always helpful for those who are experiencing challenges.
Depends how it's done. It very frequently turns into a destructive orgy of self pity and scapegoating even with people who share experiences and goals. Here on this forum it will also turn into an ideological argument because many will not trust that you are genuine - largely because most of the people spearheading these sort of debates in our body politic have ulterior motives themselves.
If you want to organize an actual group of people to get together and discuss successes and ideas then that might be a good idea, but be careful you have a leader who keeps the group focused positively.
Personally I have not seen any serious systemic issues or challenges worthy of discussion related to diversity in youth soccer in this area, and I doubt your sincerity myself.
Agree with PP, why are you in the SOCCER forum? I see a lot of cheap grammar here... Got any actual athletic skills or diversity that you can contribute to the thread?
Anonymous
10/13/2021 14:09
Subject: Parents of diverse kid: does diversity on a team matter to you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A person can’t be diverse FYI. A team can be. A person cannot.
I am a paranoid schizophrenic.
I guess OP meant diverse background…
OP here, yes that’s what I meant, I didn’t want to limit it…was hoping to get responses from
anyone who considered themselves as having a diverse background/situation.
Why did you start this thread? It's so silly. We are all wonderful human beings and that's all that matters. Only silly people worry about meaningless differences in background.
Then you are lucky that you have not experienced being disadvantaged in life because of your background. And if you have, slow clap for you for weathering it well.
I think you are missing my point. All this talk does not help anyone, least of all anyone who is experiencing challenges.
And you are missing the point of the post. Who are you to say what is helpful or not? Sharing and comparing experiences is almost always helpful for those who are experiencing challenges.
Depends how it's done. It very frequently turns into a destructive orgy of self pity and scapegoating even with people who share experiences and goals. Here on this forum it will also turn into an ideological argument because many will not trust that you are genuine - largely because most of the people spearheading these sort of debates in our body politic have ulterior motives themselves.
If you want to organize an actual group of people to get together and discuss successes and ideas then that might be a good idea, but be careful you have a leader who keeps the group focused positively.
Personally I have not seen any serious systemic issues or challenges worthy of discussion related to diversity in youth soccer in this area, and I doubt your sincerity myself.
Anonymous
10/13/2021 13:57
Subject: Parents of diverse kid: does diversity on a team matter to you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A person can’t be diverse FYI. A team can be. A person cannot.
I am a paranoid schizophrenic.
I guess OP meant diverse background…
OP here, yes that’s what I meant, I didn’t want to limit it…was hoping to get responses from
anyone who considered themselves as having a diverse background/situation.
Why did you start this thread? It's so silly. We are all wonderful human beings and that's all that matters. Only silly people worry about meaningless differences in background.
Then you are lucky that you have not experienced being disadvantaged in life because of your background. And if you have, slow clap for you for weathering it well.
I think you are missing my point. All this talk does not help anyone, least of all anyone who is experiencing challenges.
And you are missing the point of the post. Who are you to say what is helpful or not? Sharing and comparing experiences is almost always helpful for those who are experiencing challenges.
Anonymous
10/13/2021 13:53
Subject: Parents of diverse kid: does diversity on a team matter to you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When my older DD was the only AA, she was “the Black girl”. The other kids didn’t really bother to learn her name until the ne t year when two more Black girls joined.
Sorry about that. That must have tough for her. You stuck it out though so I guess the positive outweighed the negatives?
In a way, it prepared her at a young age to be “the only” in a lot of settings both as a child and now as a young woman. It wasn’t the last time that happened either. Her first week working at a state agency, a coworker told her that another coworker was calling her “the Black girl”. After that, she made a point of reintroducing herself to him every day until he stopped.
Oh wow. I’m Asian and I definitely was naive and surprised about being constantly mistaken for other Asian coworkers early on in my career. It blew my mind because we don’t even look alike and we weren’t the same type of Asian! That was a predominantly white field. I work in a different field now which is significantly more diverse and it’s been a breath of fresh air.
We are Asian and my son plays on very competitive team in the area. He doesn’t fit the typical mold of a timid Asian, he’s tall and works out constantly but even our coach can’t help but be a little racist. One of the kids on the team was having issues with grades and joking said you should probably get together with Pete (my kid) so be can tutor you. He’s a straight A student probably. I was a bit turned off with the statement, but didn’t make a stink considering it was a stereotypical comment that I don’t necessary consider negative. On the pitch the other players keep racism alive and make comments like, “bro guard Son over there”.
There are so many bad stereotypes that some coaches believe: Hispanics are great technical players, White/Black Americans are strong and fast athletes, Asians are non-aggressive & timid players and lack athleticisms and skills. I’m ecstatic that your son completely destroys this bad stereotype. My Asian DD is slowly changing this stereotype as well.
I want the best kids don’t care about diversity. If you’re good your good.
Agreed but one has to have an opportunity to play to show off their skills/capabilities
Anonymous
10/13/2021 13:49
Subject: Parents of diverse kid: does diversity on a team matter to you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A person can’t be diverse FYI. A team can be. A person cannot.
I am a paranoid schizophrenic.
I guess OP meant diverse background…
OP here, yes that’s what I meant, I didn’t want to limit it…was hoping to get responses from
anyone who considered themselves as having a diverse background/situation.
Why did you start this thread? It's so silly. We are all wonderful human beings and that's all that matters. Only silly people worry about meaningless differences in background.
Then you are lucky that you have not experienced being disadvantaged in life because of your background. And if you have, slow clap for you for weathering it well.
I think you are missing my point. All this talk does not help anyone, least of all anyone who is experiencing challenges.
Anonymous
10/13/2021 13:36
Subject: Parents of diverse kid: does diversity on a team matter to you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When my older DD was the only AA, she was “the Black girl”. The other kids didn’t really bother to learn her name until the ne t year when two more Black girls joined.
Sorry about that. That must have tough for her. You stuck it out though so I guess the positive outweighed the negatives?
In a way, it prepared her at a young age to be “the only” in a lot of settings both as a child and now as a young woman. It wasn’t the last time that happened either. Her first week working at a state agency, a coworker told her that another coworker was calling her “the Black girl”. After that, she made a point of reintroducing herself to him every day until he stopped.
Oh wow. I’m Asian and I definitely was naive and surprised about being constantly mistaken for other Asian coworkers early on in my career. It blew my mind because we don’t even look alike and we weren’t the same type of Asian! That was a predominantly white field. I work in a different field now which is significantly more diverse and it’s been a breath of fresh air.
We are Asian and my son plays on very competitive team in the area. He doesn’t fit the typical mold of a timid Asian, he’s tall and works out constantly but even our coach can’t help but be a little racist. One of the kids on the team was having issues with grades and joking said you should probably get together with Pete (my kid) so be can tutor you. He’s a straight A student probably. I was a bit turned off with the statement, but didn’t make a stink considering it was a stereotypical comment that I don’t necessary consider negative. On the pitch the other players keep racism alive and make comments like, “bro guard Son over there”.
There are so many bad stereotypes that some coaches believe: Hispanics are great technical players, White/Black Americans are strong and fast athletes, Asians are non-aggressive & timid players and lack athleticisms and skills. I’m ecstatic that your son completely destroys this bad stereotype. My Asian DD is slowly changing this stereotype as well.
I want the best kids don’t care about diversity. If you’re good your good.
Anonymous
10/13/2021 13:26
Subject: Parents of diverse kid: does diversity on a team matter to you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When my older DD was the only AA, she was “the Black girl”. The other kids didn’t really bother to learn her name until the ne t year when two more Black girls joined.
Sorry about that. That must have tough for her. You stuck it out though so I guess the positive outweighed the negatives?
In a way, it prepared her at a young age to be “the only” in a lot of settings both as a child and now as a young woman. It wasn’t the last time that happened either. Her first week working at a state agency, a coworker told her that another coworker was calling her “the Black girl”. After that, she made a point of reintroducing herself to him every day until he stopped.
Oh wow. I’m Asian and I definitely was naive and surprised about being constantly mistaken for other Asian coworkers early on in my career. It blew my mind because we don’t even look alike and we weren’t the same type of Asian! That was a predominantly white field. I work in a different field now which is significantly more diverse and it’s been a breath of fresh air.
We are Asian and my son plays on very competitive team in the area. He doesn’t fit the typical mold of a timid Asian, he’s tall and works out constantly but even our coach can’t help but be a little racist. One of the kids on the team was having issues with grades and joking said you should probably get together with Pete (my kid) so be can tutor you. He’s a straight A student probably. I was a bit turned off with the statement, but didn’t make a stink considering it was a stereotypical comment that I don’t necessary consider negative. On the pitch the other players keep racism alive and make comments like, “bro guard Son over there”.
There are so many bad stereotypes that some coaches believe: Hispanics are great technical players, White/Black Americans are strong and fast athletes, Asians are non-aggressive & timid players and lack athleticisms and skills. I’m ecstatic that your son completely destroys this bad stereotype. My Asian DD is slowly changing this stereotype as well.
Anonymous
10/13/2021 13:19
Subject: Re:Parents of diverse kid: does diversity on a team matter to you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our white club’s top teams are 95% Latino.
Whoa. Have they been there their entire soccer career or do they come from smaller clubs?
Not PP, but our club is the same way now. Top teams are full of Latino players and yes, they all pretty much have come from other smaller clubs.
Now that we have MLS Next even more have arrived and the rest of the club players have become 2nd and 3rd tier teams. Really odd.
So how is this diverse? 99 percent of anything is not diverse.
Virtue signaling
Exactly, not diverse at all. We're hispanic and were hoping for a diverse team who happened to share a common love for the sport. Not the case!
The question from OP is directed to "Parents of diverse kids"
So where are you at?
Anonymous
10/13/2021 13:16
Subject: Re:Parents of diverse kid: does diversity on a team matter to you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our white club’s top teams are 95% Latino.
Whoa. Have they been there their entire soccer career or do they come from smaller clubs?
Not PP, but our club is the same way now. Top teams are full of Latino players and yes, they all pretty much have come from other smaller clubs.
Now that we have MLS Next even more have arrived and the rest of the club players have become 2nd and 3rd tier teams. Really odd.
So how is this diverse? 99 percent of anything is not diverse.
Virtue signaling
Exactly, not diverse at all. We're hispanic and were hoping for a diverse team who happened to share a common love for the sport. Not the case!
The question from OP is directed to "Parents of diverse kids"