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Anonymous wrote:Democrats put themselves in the current situation. I bet the GOP would be willing to raise the debt ceiling if Democrats uncoupled the two spending bills, and we're willing to negotiate on the larger one. If they did, then the Democrats could neutralize the Progressive wing of their own party. When it comes to 2022 and 2024, do you really think Progressives are going to stay home or vote GOP?

The democrats already sent a clean bill that the GOP filibustered, so you lose that bet.

Wrong. Susan Collins just floated the idea that the GOP would vote to raise the debt ceiling if Democrats would drop their $3.5T package. Obviously this won't happen, so that leaves Democrats to go it alone on raising the debt ceiling - which they can do. They've had plenty of time to do this, but chose not to do so. Now they're stuck. The GOP is forcing Democrats to choose between loweri or abandoning heir bloated $3.5T bill to get GOP support, or burn their one chance to use reconciliation to raise the debt ceiling. In both scenarios, Democrats lose.

I just heard the progressives said they would vote for raising the debt ceiling if there is totally reform of the Supreme Court include with 4.5 trillion package. Republicans are already cracking. Their corporate masters are very upset.

I don't see where Progressives have opposed raising the debt ceiling. Presumably you're trolling, but I don't know why. There is room for the Democrats to compromise on the $3.5T package, but they won't.

Anonymous wrote:The Dems will use reconciliation to raise the debt ceiling and avoid default, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats put themselves in the current situation. I bet the GOP would be willing to raise the debt ceiling if Democrats uncoupled the two spending bills, and we're willing to negotiate on the larger one. If they did, then the Democrats could neutralize the Progressive wing of their own party. When it comes to 2022 and 2024, do you really think Progressives are going to stay home or vote GOP?

The democrats already sent a clean bill that the GOP filibustered, so you lose that bet.

Wrong. Susan Collins just floated the idea that the GOP would vote to raise the debt ceiling if Democrats would drop their $3.5T package. Obviously this won't happen, so that leaves Democrats to go it alone on raising the debt ceiling - which they can do. They've had plenty of time to do this, but chose not to do so. Now they're stuck. The GOP is forcing Democrats to choose between loweri or abandoning heir bloated $3.5T bill to get GOP support, or burn their one chance to use reconciliation to raise the debt ceiling. In both scenarios, Democrats lose.

I just heard the progressives said they would vote for raising the debt ceiling if there is totally reform of the Supreme Court include with 4.5 trillion package. Republicans are already cracking. Their corporate masters are very upset.

Anonymous wrote:The Dems will use reconciliation to raise the debt ceiling and avoid default, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats put themselves in the current situation. I bet the GOP would be willing to raise the debt ceiling if Democrats uncoupled the two spending bills, and we're willing to negotiate on the larger one. If they did, then the Democrats could neutralize the Progressive wing of their own party. When it comes to 2022 and 2024, do you really think Progressives are going to stay home or vote GOP?

The democrats already sent a clean bill that the GOP filibustered, so you lose that bet.

Wrong. Susan Collins just floated the idea that the GOP would vote to raise the debt ceiling if Democrats would drop their $3.5T package. Obviously this won't happen, so that leaves Democrats to go it alone on raising the debt ceiling - which they can do. They've had plenty of time to do this, but chose not to do so. Now they're stuck. The GOP is forcing Democrats to choose between loweri or abandoning heir bloated $3.5T bill to get GOP support, or burn their one chance to use reconciliation to raise the debt ceiling. In both scenarios, Democrats lose.

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats put themselves in the current situation. I bet the GOP would be willing to raise the debt ceiling if Democrats uncoupled the two spending bills, and we're willing to negotiate on the larger one. If they did, then the Democrats could neutralize the Progressive wing of their own party. When it comes to 2022 and 2024, do you really think Progressives are going to stay home or vote GOP?

The democrats already sent a clean bill that the GOP filibustered, so you lose that bet.

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats put themselves in the current situation. I bet the GOP would be willing to raise the debt ceiling if Democrats uncoupled the two spending bills, and we're willing to negotiate on the larger one. If they did, then the Democrats could neutralize the Progressive wing of their own party. When it comes to 2022 and 2024, do you really think Progressives are going to stay home or vote GOP?

The democrats already sent a clean bill that the GOP filibustered, so you lose that bet.

Plus McConnells letter specifically says he has no demand and isn’t negotiating. He’s just going to filibuster.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question- why do we even have a debt ceiling? It's been raised multiple times now. Clearly nobody takes it seriously as far as spending is concerned, so maybe they should just get rid of it altogether?

There’s no debt ceiling in the Constitution, it’s statutory. Congress established the debt ceiling after WWI to encourage fiscal discipline. It didn’t work.

It wasn't done for fiscal discipline reasons. It was done to make it easier to pay.

How does establishing a debt ceiling make it easier to pay? It makes it harder to pay.

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats put themselves in the current situation. I bet the GOP would be willing to raise the debt ceiling if Democrats uncoupled the two spending bills, and we're willing to negotiate on the larger one. If they did, then the Democrats could neutralize the Progressive wing of their own party. When it comes to 2022 and 2024, do you really think Progressives are going to stay home or vote GOP?

The democrats already sent a clean bill that the GOP filibustered, so you lose that bet.

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Anonymous wrote:McConnell wants the American people to think that he’s being fiscally prudent by keeping the Democrats from overspending. Most Americans don’t understand that raising the debt limit is to pay for debts already accumulated by the last administration.

Are you wearing your big black glasses when you say things like this?

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats can use the reconciliation to raise the limit.

Easy Peasy. What’s the big deal ?

They don’t want to. So they’ll just blow up the global economy instead. Apparently it’s a time consuming hassle.

Republicans ran up the debt . It’s their job to supply enough votes to raise the limit. But they don’t want to pay their bills.

Ok. So let’s just destroy the global economy? Democrats need to take action!

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats put themselves in the current situation. I bet the GOP would be willing to raise the debt ceiling if Democrats uncoupled the two spending bills, and we're willing to negotiate on the larger one. If they did, then the Democrats could neutralize the Progressive wing of their own party. When it comes to 2022 and 2024, do you really think Progressives are going to stay home or vote GOP?

The democrats already sent a clean bill that the GOP filibustered, so you lose that bet.

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats can use the reconciliation to raise the limit.

Easy Peasy. What’s the big deal ?

They don’t want to. So they’ll just blow up the global economy instead. Apparently it’s a time consuming hassle.

Republicans ran up the debt . It’s their job to supply enough votes to raise the limit. But they don’t want to pay their bills.

Anonymous wrote:Democrats put themselves in the current situation. I bet the GOP would be willing to raise the debt ceiling if Democrats uncoupled the two spending bills, and we're willing to negotiate on the larger one. If they did, then the Democrats could neutralize the Progressive wing of their own party. When it comes to 2022 and 2024, do you really think Progressives are going to stay home or vote GOP?