Just saw this on the news. Is Fairfax just full of nuts now?

I find it fascinating how the powers that be and their political cronies react so negatively whenever parents they theoretically should be trying to serve express concerns with their questionable decisions.

The local Democrats are absolutely ruthless in their demonization of anyone who challenges them. If you don't like them wasting money on "anti-racist" speakers at $20K a pop, you're a racist. If you think the contract with the third-party boundary consultant is a waste of time and money, you're an elitist. If you thought TJ was admirable before they started messing with the admissions, you're a bigot. And if you don't like them stocking their library shelves with graphic descriptions of underage sex, you're a prude.

I think they are going to get an eye opening in the 2023 School Board elections, even if they can eke out victories this fall.

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Anonymous wrote:Newsflash: this book is on the shelves in Texas public school libraries and just last week conservative nation succeeded in getting plenty of media attention to the matter there.

Now they're trying it on a favorite target: FCPS. Check the online school library logs for Loudoun, Arlington and Montgomery Co. Public schools. This book is also part of their collections.

Wake up.

Yup. Organized astroturfing. If someone had a true concern with a book, they could have initiated the challenge process. This lady just wanted to tey to score political points. These nutcases are tearing out society apart with their flagrant disregard for rules, procedures and civility.

Exactly.

Screaming about "CRT" didn't work so now they are on to their next absurd "outrage".

Anonymous wrote:If the language was shocking enough to upset the School Board, then it is shocking enough to be off the shelves.

Oh please. *eye roll*

All kinds of things can be “shocking” out of context. You’re like the people who decide that abortion is wrong simply because you watch a film of the procedure and it seems disturbing. You know what else is disturbing? Heart surgery. Bowel surgery. Brain surgery. You know what else is creepy out of context? Book scenes that depict murder, suicide, rape, overdose, etc.

If you read the passage in context as some kind of advertisement for or endorsement of sex….there something really wrong with you.

Anonymous wrote:If the language was shocking enough to upset the School Board, then it is shocking enough to be off the shelves.

No, it's not, you fcking prude.

If the language was shocking enough to upset the School Board, then it is shocking enough to be off the shelves.

Anonymous wrote:Newsflash: this book is on the shelves in Texas public school libraries and just last week conservative nation succeeded in getting plenty of media attention to the matter there.

Now they're trying it on a favorite target: FCPS. Check the online school library logs for Loudoun, Arlington and Montgomery Co. Public schools. This book is also part of their collections.

Wake up.

Yup. Organized astroturfing. If someone had a true concern with a book, they could have initiated the challenge process. This lady just wanted to tey to score political points. These nutcases are tearing out society apart with their flagrant disregard for rules, procedures and civility.

Anonymous wrote:Fourth grade boys sucking each other off. THAT is what it is. It is disgusting and regularlizes abuse. It needs to go. This is not even a close call.

Have you read the book?

No, you have not.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't the movie rating limit for fcps high schools PG and under?

If you cannot show PG13 or R movies depcting graphic sex in fcps high schools, it stands to reason that pornographic books depicting child rape and molestation as a casual rite of passage should also be disallowed.

Which book depicts “child rape and molestation”?

This book. Lawn Boy. You idiot contrarian. Being contrary is not a good debating position. It’s just juvenile and obnoxious.

Liar.

That book does not depict “child rape and molestation”.

Wtf?

An adult molesting a 10 year old child is rape.

Period

I'm pretty sure the sex in Lawn Boy is between two kids, not a kid and an adult. Not that I think either is, as a matter of course, inappropriate in a book for juniors and seniors in high school.

I think that it's presented as a memory from childhood that the now older (22) protagonist thinks about and feels uncomfortable about as he's interacting with a homophobic friend in the present makes it importantly different from pornography. The focus is on how this memory of a past experience impacts his current identity and interactions with someone who is homophobic--not on the experience itself. The aim isn't sexual arousal like pornography but an examination of how our experiences--including sexual ones-- impact our selves and our relationships with others. The theme would be mature for younger kids, but I don't have a problem with it for adolescents. I don't think it should be an obligatory assignment, but there are no assigned books that don't have alternate options identified in FCPS--and this isn't an assigned book, I think it's just in the library.

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Anonymous wrote:“’He talked about old times at the church, but never mentioned our penises or the fact that he never said ten words to me after our little foray in the bushes. Not a single reference to holding or tugging or sucking d**ks. All I could think about while he was chatting me up was his little salamander between my fourth-grade fingers, rapidly engorging with blood,’”

Disgusting. Definitely don’t want this in high school.

4th grader??? I would have been okay if the book was about adults but not under-aged kids. What message are we sending here? What are we encouraging? HS kids should go out and look for elementary school kids to bang? FCPS and many of these school districts are becoming lawless.

Omg, can’t you see how you’re being manipulated? All you are doing is reacting to an out of context passage.

It’s a YOUNG ADULT recalling sexual experimentation while in 4th grade. It sounds like it so with a peer. But even if it’s not, it’s not *happening* in the scene.

It’s not prurient. It’s not salacious. It’s not designed to arose people. If you are aroused by that gross passage, it’s really weird. I don’t know what literary merit the book has but every (good) library has books with bad things that happen. People get killed in books. People die by suicide. People overdose on heroin. People bully each other. People recall being molested. The fact that those topics exist in books…even books for children…doesn’t mean an endorsement. They are stories.

Newsflash: this book is on the shelves in Texas public school libraries and just last week conservative nation succeeded in getting plenty of media attention to the matter there.

Now they're trying it on a favorite target: FCPS. Check the online school library logs for Loudoun, Arlington and Montgomery Co. Public schools. This book is also part of their collections.

Wake up.

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Anonymous wrote:Did thre right wing media send out the bat signal to ban books now? Every parent has the right to opt out of books for their kods but the nuts at tonight’s school board meeting want to pray and ban books. The latest idiot wouldn’t stop talking when her time was up and made the Board have to recess. No rules for these sheep. Where did these backwards folks come from?

Did you hear the language? You think it is okay to have porn in a school library?

A book in which a character as a young adult discusses the fact that he was molested as a child is not “pornographic”.

Unless you are saying that it turns you on for a character to mention he has been molested.

In which case the problem is clearly YOU.

Pornography is, by definition, salacious and prurient, meant to be sexually arousing. If you read those passages and are sexually aroused…well, that’s telling a lot about you that I’m not sure you really want to say out loud.

Anonymous wrote:Because it turns out that parents around here are no longer sufficiently outraged by the schools’ handling of covid and the bathroom issue seems settled. They need something to gin up the base and apparently it’s book banning

EXACTLY. Our community doesn’t seem to be taking the bait for the made up outrage about “CRT” so now they are claiming there is pornography in books. Eye roll.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't the movie rating limit for fcps high schools PG and under?

If you cannot show PG13 or R movies depcting graphic sex in fcps high schools, it stands to reason that pornographic books depicting child rape and molestation as a casual rite of passage should also be disallowed.

Which book depicts “child rape and molestation”?

This book. Lawn Boy. You idiot contrarian. Being contrary is not a good debating position. It’s just juvenile and obnoxious.

Liar.

That book does not depict “child rape and molestation”.

Wtf?

An adult molesting a 10 year old child is rape.

Period

You're either stupid AF or a liar.

There is no adult "molesting" a kid in this book.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't the movie rating limit for fcps high schools PG and under?

If you cannot show PG13 or R movies depcting graphic sex in fcps high schools, it stands to reason that pornographic books depicting child rape and molestation as a casual rite of passage should also be disallowed.

Which book depicts “child rape and molestation”?

This book. Lawn Boy. You idiot contrarian. Being contrary is not a good debating position. It’s just juvenile and obnoxious.

Liar.

That book does not depict “child rape and molestation”.

Wtf?

An adult molesting a 10 year old child is rape.

Period

I'm pretty sure the sex in Lawn Boy is between two kids, not a kid and an adult. Not that I think either is, as a matter of course, inappropriate in a book for juniors and seniors in high school.