Anonymous wrote:So. What.
My kid graduated from a college far, far below that list and is now at a tippy top grad program that rejected tons of people who went to colleges on that list.
It's not where you go to undergrad, it's how well you do there.
My neighbor went to CC, and ended up in grad school at Harvard. You never know.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Top Feeder Rankings (by total employed)
Rank (Total) Institution # Employed Top Employer (Total) Top Employer (Share)
Rank (Total) Institution # Employed Top Employer (Total) Top Employer (Share)
1 Carnegie Mellon University 1,224 Google Airbnb
2 University of California, Berkeley 1,003 Google Lyft
3 University of Southern California 964 Google LinkedIn
4 Georgia Institute of Technology 894 Microsoft HubSpot
5 University of Washington 752 Microsoft DocuSign
6 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 650 Google Twitter
7 Stanford University 634 Google Slack
8 University of Waterloo 610 Google Slack
9 University of California, San Diego 600 Google Lyft
10 University of California, Los Angeles 577 Google LinkedIn
11 University of Michigan 512 Google Lyft
12 Columbia University 507 Google Airbnb
13 Cornell University 491 Google Lyft
14 University of Texas at Austin 457 Google Apple
15 Northeastern University 381 Microsoft LinkedIn
16 Purdue University 369 Microsoft Salesforce
17 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 360 Google HubSpot
18 University of Calfornia, Irvine 328 Google LinkedIn
19 New York University 322 Google LinkedIn
20 University of Toronto 318 Google Twitter
21 University of Pennsylvania 306 Google Slack
22 San Jose State University 300 Google Apple
23 University of British Columbia 248 Microsoft Slack
24 Duke University 234 Microsoft Airbnb
25 University of Maryland 229 Microsoft Airbnb
26 University of California, Davis 215 Google Airbnb
27 Brown University 212 Google Twitter
28 Harvard University 199 Google Airbnb
29 University of Virginia 192 Microsoft Google
30 University of Wisconsin, Madison 186 Google Twitter
This is a weird way of ranking schools. I bet University if Arkansas should tops the list by the number of employees by Walmart. Their greeters alone should number 100,000+.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP doesn't understand how T14 law admission works, and accordingly, is confusing a lot of people.
So please tell us about your understanding of how T14 law admission works!
T14 law school admission is almost entirely LSAT and college GPA combined. Plus URM hook, if applicable.
Anonymous wrote:Top Feeder Rankings (by total employed)
Rank (Total) Institution # Employed Top Employer (Total) Top Employer (Share)
Rank (Total) Institution # Employed Top Employer (Total) Top Employer (Share)
1 Carnegie Mellon University 1,224 Google Airbnb
2 University of California, Berkeley 1,003 Google Lyft
3 University of Southern California 964 Google LinkedIn
4 Georgia Institute of Technology 894 Microsoft HubSpot
5 University of Washington 752 Microsoft DocuSign
6 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 650 Google Twitter
7 Stanford University 634 Google Slack
8 University of Waterloo 610 Google Slack
9 University of California, San Diego 600 Google Lyft
10 University of California, Los Angeles 577 Google LinkedIn
11 University of Michigan 512 Google Lyft
12 Columbia University 507 Google Airbnb
13 Cornell University 491 Google Lyft
14 University of Texas at Austin 457 Google Apple
15 Northeastern University 381 Microsoft LinkedIn
16 Purdue University 369 Microsoft Salesforce
17 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 360 Google HubSpot
18 University of Calfornia, Irvine 328 Google LinkedIn
19 New York University 322 Google LinkedIn
20 University of Toronto 318 Google Twitter
21 University of Pennsylvania 306 Google Slack
22 San Jose State University 300 Google Apple
23 University of British Columbia 248 Microsoft Slack
24 Duke University 234 Microsoft Airbnb
25 University of Maryland 229 Microsoft Airbnb
26 University of California, Davis 215 Google Airbnb
27 Brown University 212 Google Twitter
28 Harvard University 199 Google Airbnb
29 University of Virginia 192 Microsoft Google
30 University of Wisconsin, Madison 186 Google Twitter
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My takeaway from these lists is that the "top" public universities, Vandy, Northwestern, and UChicago are quite overrated. And also, Northwestern alums control newsrooms where these rankings and their methodologies are tweaked. Nobody in real life thinks Northwestern undergrad is "elite".
Obnoxious much?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Columbia is underrated
Waiting for the Columbia bashers/HYPSM prestige defense squad to show up...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My takeaway from these lists is that the "top" public universities, Vandy, Northwestern, and UChicago are quite overrated. And also, Northwestern alums control newsrooms where these rankings and their methodologies are tweaked. Nobody in real life thinks Northwestern undergrad is "elite".
Obnoxious much?
Oh, trust me, dear, you just pissed off the HYPSM prestige defense squad again!
+1. They are already upset at how HYPSM is not T5 in every ranking but rather went to schools like Duke, Caltech, JHU, Columbia, Harvey Mudd, Swarthmore, Penn, and Northwestern. Brace yourselves for a major sh*tstorm.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP doesn't understand how T14 law admission works, and accordingly, is confusing a lot of people.
So please tell us about your understanding of how T14 law admission works!
T14 law school admission is almost entirely LSAT and college GPA combined. Plus URM hook, if applicable.
If the median LSAT score is in the high 160s/low 170s for most of these schools, does the simple combination of LSAT and college GPA really provide enough of a differentiation? Just by the enrollment numbers, isn't is reasonable to think that it's at least easier to get into Yale Law from Yale and Chicago Law from Chicago? As people note, there are plenty of smart people going to plenty of colleges. It just seems that you would not see a consistent preference for the same few undergraduate institutions if this is all that is involved.
otherwise, you should definitely attend Yale or Harvard because the grade inflation is so awesome.
Grade inflation is pretty big everywhere, but yes, particularly at elite schools. Certainly there are other factors in admission, but these schools are significantly numbers driven due to rankings.
It's not just grade inflation, it's the sort of go-getter ambitious teens who sought out an elite college when they were 17 y/o also obsess over their GPA and are laser-focused on post-college goals. They realize how important GPA is for those goals, while the average college freshman really doesn't. The average college freshman doesn't sweat a B here and there or even a C. They're partying that first semester, letting loose and letting the GPA slack a bit. While the freshman go-getter is using test banks, obsessing over certain sections taught by certain professors, starting study groups with like-minded peers, things like that. Not just striving for not just a "good" GPA but a perfect GPA. Those sort of kids also exist at the state schools but nowhere near the % of each class is like that.
And let's be honest, all things being equal, elite law schools are giving the nod to the applicant from the more elite undergrad. Elitists are elitists, after all.
all that might be true, but the sheer number of students at the other schools should cancel out this effect. UT Austin alone is about 2/3 the size of all the Ivy League schools combined.
it seems that the correct statement is "not all things are equal and elite law schools give the nod to applicants from more elite undergrads."
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP doesn't understand how T14 law admission works, and accordingly, is confusing a lot of people.
So please tell us about your understanding of how T14 law admission works!
T14 law school admission is almost entirely LSAT and college GPA combined. Plus URM hook, if applicable.
If the median LSAT score is in the high 160s/low 170s for most of these schools, does the simple combination of LSAT and college GPA really provide enough of a differentiation? Just by the enrollment numbers, isn't is reasonable to think that it's at least easier to get into Yale Law from Yale and Chicago Law from Chicago? As people note, there are plenty of smart people going to plenty of colleges. It just seems that you would not see a consistent preference for the same few undergraduate institutions if this is all that is involved.
otherwise, you should definitely attend Yale or Harvard because the grade inflation is so awesome.
Grade inflation is pretty big everywhere, but yes, particularly at elite schools. Certainly there are other factors in admission, but these schools are significantly numbers driven due to rankings.
It's not just grade inflation, it's the sort of go-getter ambitious teens who sought out an elite college when they were 17 y/o also obsess over their GPA and are laser-focused on post-college goals. They realize how important GPA is for those goals, while the average college freshman really doesn't. The average college freshman doesn't sweat a B here and there or even a C. They're partying that first semester, letting loose and letting the GPA slack a bit. While the freshman go-getter is using test banks, obsessing over certain sections taught by certain professors, starting study groups with like-minded peers, things like that. Not just striving for not just a "good" GPA but a perfect GPA. Those sort of kids also exist at the state schools but nowhere near the % of each class is like that.
And let's be honest, all things being equal, elite law schools are giving the nod to the applicant from the more elite undergrad. Elitists are elitists, after all.
Anonymous wrote:Top Feeder TECH Rankings (by total employed)
Rank (Total) Institution # Employed Top Employer (Total) Top Employer (Share)
Rank (Total) Institution # Employed Top Employer (Total) Top Employer (Share)
1 Carnegie Mellon University 1,224 Google Airbnb
2 University of California, Berkeley 1,003 Google Lyft
3 University of Southern California 964 Google LinkedIn
4 Georgia Institute of Technology 894 Microsoft HubSpot
5 University of Washington 752 Microsoft DocuSign
6 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 650 Google Twitter
7 Stanford University 634 Google Slack
8 University of Waterloo 610 Google Slack
9 University of California, San Diego 600 Google Lyft
10 University of California, Los Angeles 577 Google LinkedIn
11 University of Michigan 512 Google Lyft
12 Columbia University 507 Google Airbnb
13 Cornell University 491 Google Lyft
14 University of Texas at Austin 457 Google Apple
15 Northeastern University 381 Microsoft LinkedIn
16 Purdue University 369 Microsoft Salesforce
17 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 360 Google HubSpot
18 University of Calfornia, Irvine 328 Google LinkedIn
19 New York University 322 Google LinkedIn
20 University of Toronto 318 Google Twitter
21 University of Pennsylvania 306 Google Slack
22 San Jose State University 300 Google Apple
23 University of British Columbia 248 Microsoft Slack
24 Duke University 234 Microsoft Airbnb
25 University of Maryland 229 Microsoft Airbnb
26 University of California, Davis 215 Google Airbnb
27 Brown University 212 Google Twitter
28 Harvard University 199 Google Airbnb
29 University of Virginia 192 Microsoft Google
30 University of Wisconsin, Madison 186 Google Twitter
Anonymous wrote:My takeaway from these lists is that the "top" public universities, Vandy, Northwestern, and UChicago are quite overrated. And also, Northwestern alums control newsrooms where these rankings and their methodologies are tweaked. Nobody in real life thinks Northwestern undergrad is "elite".