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Anonymous wrote:As Lisa Simpson said to Bart when he got a stick on tattoo -
"OOh, how rebellious..(Eyeroll) ... in a conformist sort of way."

😂😂😂

This. It's something stupid that young adults / teens do to be "rebellious."

My rules are they have to be 18, pay for it themselves, and deal with the consequences.

Most people get tired of the extra piercings eventually and let them go. I remember when it was super trendy to get tongue piercing in the late 90s. How many 40 year olds do you see with that now? My friend got so many ear piercings that her baby grabbed an earring and was able to rip through her ear, and she then had to have plastic surgery. They will learn soon enough, as adults.

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Anonymous wrote:Kid is not a teen yet...but I would okay it with kids own money for any piercing except tongue. I am not paying all this money to fix teeth that are just going to get damaged by a piercing.

This is how we feel. Daughter is a freshman. Many of her friends have a hood or labia piercing. She now wants one. Hasn’t decided on which.

I like that it won’t affect her since it’s not visible.

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Anonymous wrote:As Lisa Simpson said to Bart when he got a stick on tattoo -
"OOh, how rebellious..(Eyeroll) ... in a conformist sort of way."

😂😂😂

Anonymous wrote:And crazy sister-worshipper has taken over the thread.

Anonymous wrote:As Lisa Simpson said to Bart when he got a stick on tattoo -
"OOh, how rebellious..(Eyeroll) ... in a conformist sort of way."

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Anonymous wrote:Our policy is no piercings or tattoos until 21. Not even ears.

+1. Same. Takes the discussion and begging off the able. When they are of legal age and sound mind, they can make holes in themselves.

How do you enforce that? You can’t stop an 18 year old from getting a piercing or tattoo.

You threaten to stop paying their college tuition.

Honestly, it’s all about family rules and expectations.

This is what I started the other thread about. I'm with you on having rules and expectations. But sometimes kids break those rules and fail to meet those expectations. Your kid comes home for winter break with a nose stud. Do you really stop paying tuition?

Yes. But when you have a history of saying what you mean and meaning what you say all your kids lives, it never comes to that.

My parents were like this, PP, and it worked. My brothers and I never tested them after toddlerhood.

It works because you and your siblings and pps kids are very compliant. Not all people are. I'm thinking of my sister here who would have got the piercing, moved out, found another way to do college and cut my parents off completel forever, no grandchildren etc.

NP here. Your sister has serious oppositional disorders, PP.

Not really. She just wouldn't have our parents trying to control her as an adult, which I'm sure you would feel the same. She's what used to be called strong-willed or what DCUMErs now call their kids CEO's in training. Fortunately fo all of us our parents idea of parenting wasn't based on control and rigidity. My sister is also a pretty cool person. I'm sure her tendency to question everything drove our parents nuts, but that little pain in the ass grew into a badass with an awesome career that's saving lives by constantly questioning a pushing back against norms.

Then you described her incorrectly. An inability to follow a family rule with the defiance you described is classic oppositional disorder. We are all “controlled” in society by laws, morals, and cooperation. To take such a strong stance (as you described) is more than strong willed. It’s childish and hurts only her.

NP here. And my parenting isn’t based on control. It’s based on cooperation and respect. I was raised the same. I defied my parents wishes when I joined the Peace Corp at 22 and again by moving to Scotland after graduate school. But when I was being supported by them thru college, I definitely followed their rules and respected them. No sex in the house and no tattoos or piercing. Not hard or too much to ask of us.

She definitely doesn't have ODD. She just wouldn't stand to be told what she could wear or do with her own body at the age of 21 because mom and dad didn't like it. Great if it works for you and your compliant kids, it won't work for every child. So the classic DCUM adiivce of just take away money doesn't apply to every person and a person refusing to fall for it doesn't have ODD.

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Anonymous wrote:Our policy is no piercings or tattoos until 21. Not even ears.

+1. Same. Takes the discussion and begging off the able. When they are of legal age and sound mind, they can make holes in themselves.

How do you enforce that? You can’t stop an 18 year old from getting a piercing or tattoo.

You threaten to stop paying their college tuition.

Honestly, it’s all about family rules and expectations.

This is what I started the other thread about. I'm with you on having rules and expectations. But sometimes kids break those rules and fail to meet those expectations. Your kid comes home for winter break with a nose stud. Do you really stop paying tuition?

Yes. But when you have a history of saying what you mean and meaning what you say all your kids lives, it never comes to that.

My parents were like this, PP, and it worked. My brothers and I never tested them after toddlerhood.

It works because you and your siblings and pps kids are very compliant. Not all people are. I'm thinking of my sister here who would have got the piercing, moved out, found another way to do college and cut my parents off completel forever, no grandchildren etc.

NP here. Your sister has serious oppositional disorders, PP.

Not really. She just wouldn't have our parents trying to control her as an adult, which I'm sure you would feel the same. She's what used to be called strong-willed or what DCUMErs now call their kids CEO's in training. Fortunately fo all of us our parents idea of parenting wasn't based on control and rigidity. My sister is also a pretty cool person. I'm sure her tendency to question everything drove our parents nuts, but that little pain in the ass grew into a badass with an awesome career that's saving lives by constantly questioning a pushing back against norms.

Then you described her incorrectly. An inability to follow a family rule with the defiance you described is classic oppositional disorder. We are all “controlled” in society by laws, morals, and cooperation. To take such a strong stance (as you described) is more than strong willed. It’s childish and hurts only her.

NP here. And my parenting isn’t based on control. It’s based on cooperation and respect. I was raised the same. I defied my parents wishes when I joined the Peace Corp at 22 and again by moving to Scotland after graduate school. But when I was being supported by them thru college, I definitely followed their rules and respected them. No sex in the house and no tattoos or piercing. Not hard or too much to ask of us.

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Anonymous wrote:Our policy is no piercings or tattoos until 21. Not even ears.

+1. Same. Takes the discussion and begging off the able. When they are of legal age and sound mind, they can make holes in themselves.

How do you enforce that? You can’t stop an 18 year old from getting a piercing or tattoo.

You threaten to stop paying their college tuition.

Honestly, it’s all about family rules and expectations.

This is what I started the other thread about. I'm with you on having rules and expectations. But sometimes kids break those rules and fail to meet those expectations. Your kid comes home for winter break with a nose stud. Do you really stop paying tuition?

Yes. But when you have a history of saying what you mean and meaning what you say all your kids lives, it never comes to that.

My parents were like this, PP, and it worked. My brothers and I never tested them after toddlerhood.

It works because you and your siblings and pps kids are very compliant. Not all people are. I'm thinking of my sister here who would have got the piercing, moved out, found another way to do college and cut my parents off completel forever, no grandchildren etc.

NP here. Your sister has serious oppositional disorders, PP.

Not really. She just wouldn't have our parents trying to control her as an adult, which I'm sure you would feel the same. She's what used to be called strong-willed or what DCUMErs now call their kids CEO's in training. Fortunately fo all of us our parents idea of parenting wasn't based on control and rigidity. My sister is also a pretty cool person. I'm sure her tendency to question everything drove our parents nuts, but that little pain in the ass grew into a badass with an awesome career that's saving lives by constantly questioning a pushing back against norms.

Then you described her incorrectly. An inability to follow a family rule with the defiance you described is classic oppositional disorder. We are all “controlled” in society by laws, morals, and cooperation. To take such a strong stance (as you described) is more than strong willed. It’s childish and hurts only her.

NP here. And my parenting isn’t based on control. It’s based on cooperation and respect. I was raised the same. I defied my parents wishes when I joined the Peace Corp at 22 and again by moving to Scotland after graduate school. But when I was being supported by them thru college, I definitely followed their rules and respected them. No sex in the house and no tattoos or piercing. Not hard or too much to ask of us.

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Anonymous wrote:Our policy is no piercings or tattoos until 21. Not even ears.

+1. Same. Takes the discussion and begging off the able. When they are of legal age and sound mind, they can make holes in themselves.

How do you enforce that? You can’t stop an 18 year old from getting a piercing or tattoo.

You threaten to stop paying their college tuition.

Honestly, it’s all about family rules and expectations.

This is what I started the other thread about. I'm with you on having rules and expectations. But sometimes kids break those rules and fail to meet those expectations. Your kid comes home for winter break with a nose stud. Do you really stop paying tuition?

Yes. But when you have a history of saying what you mean and meaning what you say all your kids lives, it never comes to that.

My parents were like this, PP, and it worked. My brothers and I never tested them after toddlerhood.

It works because you and your siblings and pps kids are very compliant. Not all people are. I'm thinking of my sister here who would have got the piercing, moved out, found another way to do college and cut my parents off completel forever, no grandchildren etc.

NP here. Your sister has serious oppositional disorders, PP.

Not really. She just wouldn't have our parents trying to control her as an adult, which I'm sure you would feel the same. She's what used to be called strong-willed or what DCUMErs now call their kids CEO's in training. Fortunately fo all of us our parents idea of parenting wasn't based on control and rigidity. My sister is also a pretty cool person. I'm sure her tendency to question everything drove our parents nuts, but that little pain in the ass grew into a badass with an awesome career that's saving lives by constantly questioning a pushing back against norms.

Eh... no. Anyone who would pass up a full ride college scholarship because she wanted her nose pierced is about as far from a CEO in training as one could get!

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Anonymous wrote:Our policy is no piercings or tattoos until 21. Not even ears.

+1. Same. Takes the discussion and begging off the able. When they are of legal age and sound mind, they can make holes in themselves.

How do you enforce that? You can’t stop an 18 year old from getting a piercing or tattoo.

You threaten to stop paying their college tuition.

Honestly, it’s all about family rules and expectations.

This is what I started the other thread about. I'm with you on having rules and expectations. But sometimes kids break those rules and fail to meet those expectations. Your kid comes home for winter break with a nose stud. Do you really stop paying tuition?

Yes. But when you have a history of saying what you mean and meaning what you say all your kids lives, it never comes to that.

My parents were like this, PP, and it worked. My brothers and I never tested them after toddlerhood.

It works because you and your siblings and pps kids are very compliant. Not all people are. I'm thinking of my sister here who would have got the piercing, moved out, found another way to do college and cut my parents off completel forever, no grandchildren etc.

NP here. Your sister has serious oppositional disorders, PP.

Not really. She just wouldn't have our parents trying to control her as an adult, which I'm sure you would feel the same. She's what used to be called strong-willed or what DCUMErs now call their kids CEO's in training. Fortunately fo all of us our parents idea of parenting wasn't based on control and rigidity. My sister is also a pretty cool person. I'm sure her tendency to question everything drove our parents nuts, but that little pain in the ass grew into a badass with an awesome career that's saving lives by constantly questioning a pushing back against norms.

Then you described her incorrectly. An inability to follow a family rule with the defiance you described is classic oppositional disorder. We are all “controlled” in society by laws, morals, and cooperation. To take such a strong stance (as you described) is more than strong willed. It’s childish and hurts only her.

NP here. And my parenting isn’t based on control. It’s based on cooperation and respect. I was raised the same. I defied my parents wishes when I joined the Peace Corp at 22 and again by moving to Scotland after graduate school. But when I was being supported by them thru college, I definitely followed their rules and respected them. No sex in the house and no tattoos or piercing. Not hard or too much to ask of us.

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Anonymous wrote:Our policy is no piercings or tattoos until 21. Not even ears.

+1. Same. Takes the discussion and begging off the able. When they are of legal age and sound mind, they can make holes in themselves.

How do you enforce that? You can’t stop an 18 year old from getting a piercing or tattoo.

You threaten to stop paying their college tuition.

Honestly, it’s all about family rules and expectations.

This is what I started the other thread about. I'm with you on having rules and expectations. But sometimes kids break those rules and fail to meet those expectations. Your kid comes home for winter break with a nose stud. Do you really stop paying tuition?

Yes. But when you have a history of saying what you mean and meaning what you say all your kids lives, it never comes to that.

My parents were like this, PP, and it worked. My brothers and I never tested them after toddlerhood.

It works because you and your siblings and pps kids are very compliant. Not all people are. I'm thinking of my sister here who would have got the piercing, moved out, found another way to do college and cut my parents off completel forever, no grandchildren etc.

NP here. Your sister has serious oppositional disorders, PP.

Not really. She just wouldn't have our parents trying to control her as an adult, which I'm sure you would feel the same. She's what used to be called strong-willed or what DCUMErs now call their kids CEO's in training. Fortunately fo all of us our parents idea of parenting wasn't based on control and rigidity. My sister is also a pretty cool person. I'm sure her tendency to question everything drove our parents nuts, but that little pain in the ass grew into a badass with an awesome career that's saving lives by constantly questioning a pushing back against norms.

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Anonymous wrote:Our policy is no piercings or tattoos until 21. Not even ears.

+1. Same. Takes the discussion and begging off the able. When they are of legal age and sound mind, they can make holes in themselves.

How do you enforce that? You can’t stop an 18 year old from getting a piercing or tattoo.

You threaten to stop paying their college tuition.

Honestly, it’s all about family rules and expectations.

This is what I started the other thread about. I'm with you on having rules and expectations. But sometimes kids break those rules and fail to meet those expectations. Your kid comes home for winter break with a nose stud. Do you really stop paying tuition?

Yes. But when you have a history of saying what you mean and meaning what you say all your kids lives, it never comes to that.

My parents were like this, PP, and it worked. My brothers and I never tested them after toddlerhood.

It works because you and your siblings and pps kids are very compliant. Not all people are. I'm thinking of my sister here who would have got the piercing, moved out, found another way to do college and cut my parents off completel forever, no grandchildren etc.

NP here. Your sister has serious oppositional disorders, PP.

Not really. She just wouldn't have our parents trying to control her as an adult, which I'm sure you would feel the same. She's what used to be called strong-willed or what DCUMErs now call their kids CEO's in training. Fortunately fo all of us our parents idea of parenting wasn't based on control and rigidity. My sister is also a pretty cool person. I'm sure her tendency to question everything drove our parents nuts, but that little pain in the ass grew into a badass with an awesome career that's saving lives by constantly questioning a pushing back against norms.

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Anonymous wrote:Our policy is no piercings or tattoos until 21. Not even ears.

+1. Same. Takes the discussion and begging off the able. When they are of legal age and sound mind, they can make holes in themselves.

How do you enforce that? You can’t stop an 18 year old from getting a piercing or tattoo.

You threaten to stop paying their college tuition.

Honestly, it’s all about family rules and expectations.

This is what I started the other thread about. I'm with you on having rules and expectations. But sometimes kids break those rules and fail to meet those expectations. Your kid comes home for winter break with a nose stud. Do you really stop paying tuition?

Yes. But when you have a history of saying what you mean and meaning what you say all your kids lives, it never comes to that.

My parents were like this, PP, and it worked. My brothers and I never tested them after toddlerhood.

It works because you and your siblings and pps kids are very compliant. Not all people are. I'm thinking of my sister here who would have got the piercing, moved out, found another way to do college and cut my parents off completel forever, no grandchildren etc.

NP here. Your sister has serious oppositional disorders, PP.