Anonymous
09/14/2025 09:20
Subject: Re:Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lots of pages about just one of the 46,700 gun deaths in the US each year, all of them preventable.
No.
The issue is should an individual gun down a public figure he doesn’t like.
No but at least he didn’t fire rapidly and indiscriminately into the crowd. Could have been so much worse thanks to lax gun laws and gun culture.
Except the shooter used a hunting rifle, which liberals say is ok. They always say guns used for hunting are not going to be banned.
False. Proper gun control would allow for hunting weapons but they would be strictly controlled - locked up and only accessible to adults with licenses. Stop pretending like gun control wouldn’t be a huge factor in stopping these incidents. Nobody can prove it would have stopped this particular one, but overall, huge decrease. and guess who else knew that? Kirk.
Anonymous
09/14/2025 09:20
Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
Anonymous wrote:The sad fact is, if Tyler Robinson had used his gun to massacre students at Utah Valley University instead of just fatally shooting Charlie Kirk Republicans wouldn't care this much.
This, unfortunately. Republicans (and people in general) have a para-social relationship with millionaire Kirk and celebrities, making his assasination feel much more personal.
Anonymous
Anonymous
09/14/2025 09:19
Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: If he killed Kirk because Kirk wasn’t conservative enough, and he was even farther right than maga - then it would make zero sense for his closest friend and roommate, to whom he asked to assist in retrieving the murder weapon and shared plans with, would be a transperson or even a just a straight non-maga. It also makes zero sense to text the roommate what he texted him, unless the roommate already knew the plans.
There are gay and trans MAGA, you know that right? Like Nick Fuentes who this kid appeared to pay attention to.
And yet Tyler Robinson is a cis male raised amongst MAGA, was in an electrician apprenticeship, has been shooting guns since early childhood, and every single photo of him looks like a straight male wearing men’s clothing and a baseball hat. Every tiktok post of Lance Twiggs shows a straight sounding and appearing male as well. Now maybe he just recently transitioned or I am thinking perhaps these straight men had been planning this together, they didn’t want neighbors to identify them correctly, so they disguised themselves somewhat for a few weeks? or longer to throw people off. If any of this trans nonsense is in fact true.
Anonymous
09/14/2025 09:18
Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He grew up in a rural, conservative Christian, MAGA, gun-loving household, posing with automatic weapons for Facebook pictures, attended one semester at a conservative college before moving back to his home town, immersed since his teenage years in an alt-right tinged gaming culture ... and people want to blame the trans roommate who turned him in???
That’s not what’s going on here nor supported by the investigation the last three days.
Wake up PP.
The radicalization that happened to Tyler was online and with whomever he was hanging out with the last few years was irrational and desensitized to killing.
Of course, we just have to filter out the insane trans preoccupation of right if we ever want to get anywhere. Their psycho sexual obsessions are an anchor.
Shall we filter out your repeated insane and fabricated trans worries posts as well?
Your obsession with it is on clear display.
Nope- doesn’t work.
Left is defending - right is obsessed. It’s like saying if you screamed my face repeatedly that dogs are green and I kept saying ‘no they’re not, dummy’ that I am obsessed with green dogs.
Unlike maga we are not so stupid to fall for ‘I know that you are but what am I?’
Anonymous
09/14/2025 09:17
Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: If he killed Kirk because Kirk wasn’t conservative enough, and he was even farther right than maga - then it would make zero sense for his closest friend and roommate, to whom he asked to assist in retrieving the murder weapon and shared plans with, would be a transperson or even a just a straight non-maga. It also makes zero sense to text the roommate what he texted him, unless the roommate already knew the plans.
There are gay and trans MAGA, you know that right? Like Nick Fuentes who this kid appeared to pay attention to.
No, I think the roommate being an alt right trans person is even more unlikely than them being in a relationship.
Whatever the case, the roommate likely has similar political feelings and sentiments toward Kirk as the killer did. Why else would he have texted him to go get the weapon? There has to be more to that.
Anonymous
09/14/2025 09:17
Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
Anonymous wrote:The sad fact is, if Tyler Robinson had used his gun to massacre students at Utah Valley University instead of just fatally shooting Charlie Kirk Republicans wouldn't care this much.
Would already be an afterthought.
Anonymous
Anonymous
09/14/2025 09:17
Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day, regardless of the shooters sexual orientation , the shooter wasn't a trans person. Ergo, the blame and castigation on the trans community is misplaced and completely irrelevant.
What is clear is this is a person who grew up in a right wing, rural gun culture, he got angry and shot and killed someone.
But the right is using this as a cudgel in its ongoing witch-hunt against "the other" to further elevate the straight, white, Christian male as the supreme figure in our country using communications platforms owned and controlled by billionaires using milliionaire politicians to keep the little guy down. It is authoritarian playbook 101.
And meanwhile, the US economy is crumbling, the institutions that have made this country great for the last 80 years are being dismantled and Russia and China are growing in military and economic strength while our population are being distracted with Kirk and Epstein.
Wake up people, we are about to go into some very grim times.
Exactly the guy grew up in MAGA central surrounded by guns. His alleged ‘ trans’ friend didn’t introduce him to guns. The neighbor in the vid above doesn’t seem trustworthy.
For all we know, the neighbor may want to blame the trans, too.
Anonymous
09/14/2025 09:17
Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He grew up in a rural, conservative Christian, MAGA, gun-loving household, posing with automatic weapons for Facebook pictures, attended one semester at a conservative college before moving back to his home town, immersed since his teenage years in an alt-right tinged gaming culture ... and people want to blame the trans roommate who turned him in???
That’s not what’s going on here nor supported by the investigation the last three days.
Wake up PP.
The radicalization that happened to Tyler was online and with whomever he was hanging out with the last few years was irrational and desensitized to killing.
Of course, we just have to filter out the insane trans preoccupation of right if we ever want to get anywhere. Their psycho sexual obsessions are an anchor.
Shall we filter out your repeated insane and fabricated trans worries posts as well?
Your obsession with it is on clear display.
Anonymous
09/14/2025 09:16
Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
The sad fact is, if Tyler Robinson had used his gun to massacre students at Utah Valley University instead of just fatally shooting Charlie Kirk Republicans wouldn't care this much.
Anonymous
09/14/2025 09:15
Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
Anonymous wrote:Utah gov said today killer was deeply indoctrinated in leftist ideology https://nypost.com/2025/09/13/us-news/charlie-kirks-alleged-assassin-tyler-robinson-deeply-indoctrinated-with-leftist-ideology/ he’s confirmed to be romantically involved with a transgender person whom he was cohabiting with. So according to a lot of folks here it’s safe he’s right wing? Am I understanding this correctly?
Utah gov on ABC this morning talking about how tired they were during that press conference when asked about his “deeply indoctrinated in leftest ideology” bit, then going on a lot about how “this person” made an individual choice and his high ACT scores.
Anonymous
09/14/2025 09:15
Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Each of the six sources familiar with the investigation told Axios that investigators believe Robinson had a romantic relationship with his roommate.
Zoom in: Axios' sources said investigators initially wanted the information about the roommate's gender identity kept quiet because that person is being "extremely cooperative" with authorities.
https://www.axios.com/2025/09/13/kirk-suspect-transgender-roommate
So investigators have known about the trans roommate/romantic partner and kept it confidential.
It also doesn't fit the right wing narrative that transgender people are violent and cheered and celebrated Kirk's shooting. Yet here is a supposed trans person who was the one to turn the shooter in. The narratives on the right still don't add up.
He’s trying to save his own skin. It’s coming out now that there is a group of 7-20 of them who knew about this and played some role. All trans and/or heavy gamers.
Agree.
I hope some social media regulations and bans come out of this.
The irony here is that Charlie Kirk used and weaponized social media radicalization, for right wing causes.
The irony here is that Charlie Kirk said some gun deaths are acceptable losses, and now he's one.
He did public speaking events and debates. He debated premises, which most Americans don’t even know what that is.
There is no irony in the death, he talked about the usual tradeoffs of risks and rights, freedoms and lack of freedoms. That’s all very foundational in America. Plotting out assassinations because you don’t like freedom of speech or an individual, is not. That’s extremism and deranged, hence prison time for Tyler & accomplices.
Anonymous
09/14/2025 09:13
Subject: Re:Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lots of pages about just one of the 46,700 gun deaths in the US each year, all of them preventable.
No.
The issue is should an individual gun down a public figure he doesn’t like.
No but at least he didn’t fire rapidly and indiscriminately into the crowd. Could have been so much worse thanks to lax gun laws and gun culture.
Except the shooter used a hunting rifle, which liberals say is ok. They always say guns used for hunting are not going to be banned.
And - your point