Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anything now revealed in the Epstein files about Trump that could have been used to upend his 2024 campaign would be a stain on the Democratic Party. If they sat on disqualifying information then they are complicit in everything that has happened and will happen during his second term.
These emails have just come out from the Epstein estate, stupid. No politician was sitting on them. They were released immediately. The DOJ has been sitting on the rest of it, but those legally cannot be released unless Congress votes for it and Trump signs the order.
And probably some from Maxwell’s team
I know those are the rumors, but there is no evidence of that. Let's try to stick with what's known. Frankly, nothing that came out is to Maxwell's benefit. It's just more evidence that she's guilty and the more comes out, the less reason Trump has to be nice to her.
+1 I usually believe Julie Brown about all of this and I know this is her speculation, but some of what came out indicates Maxwell lied to Todd Blanche so it doesn’t look great for her.
Maxwell should be seriously worried about getting “suicided”
As should Andrew. Which is why it is thought he is being whisked away to Sandringham, which is private property.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anything now revealed in the Epstein files about Trump that could have been used to upend his 2024 campaign would be a stain on the Democratic Party. If they sat on disqualifying information then they are complicit in everything that has happened and will happen during his second term.
These emails have just come out from the Epstein estate, stupid. No politician was sitting on them. They were released immediately. The DOJ has been sitting on the rest of it, but those legally cannot be released unless Congress votes for it and Trump signs the order.
And probably some from Maxwell’s team
I know those are the rumors, but there is no evidence of that. Let's try to stick with what's known. Frankly, nothing that came out is to Maxwell's benefit. It's just more evidence that she's guilty and the more comes out, the less reason Trump has to be nice to her.
+1 I usually believe Julie Brown about all of this and I know this is her speculation, but some of what came out indicates Maxwell lied to Todd Blanche so it doesn’t look great for her.
Maxwell should be seriously worried about getting “suicided”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
There is a difference between 8 yr olds and 15 yr olds.
8 yr olds have neither developed bodies nor developed brains.
15 yr olds have developed bodies but *not* developed brains. This inconsistency creates a lot of risks, which is why the law still protects these teenagers!
Despite being an adult, Megyn Kelly has a developed body but not yet a developed brain.
🎯 A 50-something guy can find a 15-year-old hot. This is already super-obvious, and it's not the stunning revelation gross pp/former prosecutor thinks it is.
But that 15-year-old (or even 17-year-old, which Virginia Giuffre was) does not have the mental or emotional maturity to weigh "wow, this billionaire/Prince Andrew likes my body" against "wow, this billionaire/Prince Andrew just wants a trafficked sex slave they can use and discard."
We need to keep protecting young teen girls and prosecuting their traffickers. Enough with inventing grand classifications ("epobophilia") to rationalize trafficking immature teens.
Nobody rationalized trafficking teens, the former sex crimes prosecutor spoke strongly against that in fact.
They merely pointed out that it is not pedophilia to be attracted to sexually mature teenaged bodies, as fact you and others have conceded.
Some of the people posting here are just plain childish. Perhaps none of them should be having sex with anyone.
Sorry, but no way. That former prosecutor only looks at the male perspective. "I can certainly see a beautiful young sexual mature body and see the appeal. And I know it’s not sickness for other adults to feel the same." Then the former prosecutor says she doesn't get it... but only because she's a sapiosexual and for her it's not just about physicality--but as this quote shows, she accepts that some men are all about the physicality.
Again, the girls' POV is completely ignored. They're being groomed and trafficked, and they're too immature psychologically to understand what's happening to them. But it's OK because it's normal for me to like young girls? Again, GMAFB.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anything now revealed in the Epstein files about Trump that could have been used to upend his 2024 campaign would be a stain on the Democratic Party. If they sat on disqualifying information then they are complicit in everything that has happened and will happen during his second term.
That’s industrial strength copium, right here. Don’t you have a pageant to watch or something?
Stopping an existential threat to American democracy was the battle cry in 2024. Well, we got the existential threat, and it’s real. Any information that would have stopped candidate Trump that Democrats didn’t release makes leadership complicit in our current mess.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Notice the narrative shift. Megyn Kelly explaining all this away by saying it's 15 year-olds, not 5 year-olds. Shapiro not denying it, just saying MGT is trying to destroy Trump. Bannon saying Trump is "imperfect" but that's okay. They all know it's true and are trying to move the conversation past it.
The problem with this is that a large cohort of men- yes, a large number- dont think anything is wrong with 15/16. They really dont. They wouldnt be friends with that person but they arent going to turn them in unless its their daughter (or son). And just wait for the whole - they look 18 or they dress 18 or they act 18 or they tricked them with a fake ID or they wanted it for the money or fame or attention.![]()
Its disgusting and it should be called out every single time. They are going to say things like - its an arbitrary legal line or biologically they can have children at that age or whatever moral backsliding they come up with.
Its 18 point blank. 18-25or so is their own cohort. There are power and other dynamics at play for large age gaps. We can opine on all that but anyone who is an adult should not be involved with a child. There is no grey area. And I do look down on anyone over the age of 25- looking at you 40 year old women and men- who have sex with or date men/women under 25. Its not illegal but its not quite right either.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
There is a difference between 8 yr olds and 15 yr olds.
8 yr olds have neither developed bodies nor developed brains.
15 yr olds have developed bodies but *not* developed brains. This inconsistency creates a lot of risks, which is why the law still protects these teenagers!
Despite being an adult, Megyn Kelly has a developed body but not yet a developed brain.
You know some kids hit puberty early. There are 5th graders who have developed bodies. You have boobs so it’s not so bad for 50 year olds to creep on you is some really sick stuff.
I got my period when I was 9 years old. I was already having to wear a bra in third grade.
Why would that make it okay to hit on me?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
There is a difference between 8 yr olds and 15 yr olds.
8 yr olds have neither developed bodies nor developed brains.
15 yr olds have developed bodies but *not* developed brains. This inconsistency creates a lot of risks, which is why the law still protects these teenagers!
Despite being an adult, Megyn Kelly has a developed body but not yet a developed brain.
🎯 A 50-something guy can find a 15-year-old hot. This is already super-obvious, and it's not the stunning revelation gross pp/former prosecutor thinks it is.
But that 15-year-old (or even 17-year-old, which Virginia Giuffre was) does not have the mental or emotional maturity to weigh "wow, this billionaire/Prince Andrew likes my body" against "wow, this billionaire/Prince Andrew just wants a trafficked sex slave they can use and discard."
We need to keep protecting young teen girls and prosecuting their traffickers. Enough with inventing grand classifications ("epobophilia") to rationalize trafficking immature teens.
Nobody rationalized trafficking teens, the former sex crimes prosecutor spoke strongly against that in fact.
They merely pointed out that it is not pedophilia to be attracted to sexually mature teenaged bodies, as fact you and others have conceded.
Some of the people posting here are just plain childish. Perhaps none of them should be having sex with anyone.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
There is a difference between 8 yr olds and 15 yr olds.
8 yr olds have neither developed bodies nor developed brains.
15 yr olds have developed bodies but *not* developed brains. This inconsistency creates a lot of risks, which is why the law still protects these teenagers!
Despite being an adult, Megyn Kelly has a developed body but not yet a developed brain.
You know some kids hit puberty early. There are 5th graders who have developed bodies. You have boobs so it’s not so bad for 50 year olds to creep on you is some really sick stuff.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
There is a difference between 8 yr olds and 15 yr olds.
8 yr olds have neither developed bodies nor developed brains.
15 yr olds have developed bodies but *not* developed brains. This inconsistency creates a lot of risks, which is why the law still protects these teenagers!
Despite being an adult, Megyn Kelly has a developed body but not yet a developed brain.
🎯 A 50-something guy can find a 15-year-old hot. This is already super-obvious, and it's not the stunning revelation gross pp/former prosecutor thinks it is.
But that 15-year-old (or even 17-year-old, which Virginia Giuffre was) does not have the mental or emotional maturity to weigh "wow, this billionaire/Prince Andrew likes my body" against "wow, this billionaire/Prince Andrew just wants a trafficked sex slave they can use and discard."
We need to keep protecting young teen girls and prosecuting their traffickers. Enough with inventing grand classifications ("epobophilia") to rationalize trafficking immature teens.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:President Trump says he will be instructing Pam Bondi, the DOJ, and the FBI to investigate Jeffrey Epstein’s relationships and involvement with Bill Clinton, Harvard President Larry Summers, & Linkedln co-founder Reid Hoffman
Hoo boy!
Investigate Bill Gates too while you’re at it
Trump playing chess, democrats checkers.
Speaking of Bubba, Trump (or should we say Monica Jr.) and the Epstein files...
Be careful what you wish for.
I don’t think you understand how little the left cares about Clinton. Or Gates! No one wants to protect them. Can you say the same about Trump?
+1000 Dems are not cult followers like MAGA
Clinton is likeable despite his faults, but there's no cult of personality around him or any other Democrat, especially if they abused underage girls of any age including teenagers.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:President Trump says he will be instructing Pam Bondi, the DOJ, and the FBI to investigate Jeffrey Epstein’s relationships and involvement with Bill Clinton, Harvard President Larry Summers, & Linkedln co-founder Reid Hoffman
Hoo boy!
Investigate Bill Gates too while you’re at it
Trump playing chess, democrats checkers.
Speaking of Bubba, Trump (or should we say Monica Jr.) and the Epstein files...
Be careful what you wish for.
I don’t think you understand how little the left cares about Clinton. Or Gates! No one wants to protect them. Can you say the same about Trump?
+1000 Dems are not cult followers like MAGA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Notice the narrative shift. Megyn Kelly explaining all this away by saying it's 15 year-olds, not 5 year-olds. Shapiro not denying it, just saying MGT is trying to destroy Trump. Bannon saying Trump is "imperfect" but that's okay. They all know it's true and are trying to move the conversation past it.
Trial balloons to see what works. Republicans are focus grouping in real time.
Not one reedemable soul in the WH situation room meeting with Trump game planning a response to the release.
The sit room meets were to pressure Boebert and Mace, separately, into withdrawing their signatures on the 218 discharge petition so a vote could be averted. Those must have been horrendously high pressure meetings for these women. They bravely stood their ground. I don't agree with them on anything else, BTW.
They have earned my respect in this.
and MTG has surprised me, as well
It's not an anomaly any more. In each one of her public appearances, she's speaking with more sense and clarity than almost all other politicians. And she's directly taking on Trump now. It's pretty wild.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Notice the narrative shift. Megyn Kelly explaining all this away by saying it's 15 year-olds, not 5 year-olds. Shapiro not denying it, just saying MGT is trying to destroy Trump. Bannon saying Trump is "imperfect" but that's okay. They all know it's true and are trying to move the conversation past it.
Trial balloons to see what works. Republicans are focus grouping in real time.
Not one reedemable soul in the WH situation room meeting with Trump game planning a response to the release.
The sit room meets were to pressure Boebert and Mace, separately, into withdrawing their signatures on the 218 discharge petition so a vote could be averted. Those must have been horrendously high pressure meetings for these women. They bravely stood their ground. I don't agree with them on anything else, BTW.
They have earned my respect in this.
and MTG has surprised me, as well
It's not an anomaly any more. In each one of her public appearances, she's speaking with more sense and clarity than almost all other politicians. And she's directly taking on Trump now. It's pretty wild.