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Anonymous wrote:Maybe we can, as a "Christian" nation, give them asylum. Not.

Surely the tolerant Arab nations in the region are anxious to welcome them.

They're just as tolerant as Israel. So um no. That would also make them as complicit as the Free Palestone Americans but with personally accountable consequences.

Anonymous wrote:Maybe we can, as a "Christian" nation, give them asylum. Not.

Surely the tolerant Arab nations in the region are anxious to welcome them.

Anonymous wrote:Do you think Israel planting trees once tunnels are cleared is going to stop the next group from forming?????

They won't be on that border, anyway.

Do you think Israel planting trees once tunnels are cleared is going to stop the next group from forming?????

Maybe we can, as a "Christian" nation, give them asylum. Not.

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Anonymous wrote:It's time for the pro-Hamas efforts to garner sympathy for terrorists to give it up. Palestinian terror is not going to stop, and neither will the efforts to eradicate the bad actors, and so the civilian casualties will continue. It's an endless cycle started, sustained, and perpetuated by them. Leave them to it.

It is time for pro Israeli crowd to give back the land they stole from the Palestinians. All Israelis can go back to their countries of origin.

Except that's not happening, no matter how hard you wish for it in thread after thread you start.

The Palestinians, on the other hand, have behaved for 77 years in ways which have alienated everyone who opposes terror and corruption as a way of life. Using their land and foreign aid mostly to develop a warren of subterranean military facilities instead of to build a strong and stable civil society, has not endeared them to many, either. Their only "friend" is Iran, which uses them simply as expendable proxies to attack Israel without usually exposing themselves to the same kind of direct retaliation.

Once Gaza is cleared out, the tunnels can be filled with water or concrete, trees can be planted there to help the environment, and Israel can focus on eventually bringing about the downfall of the Iranian terror regime if the current U.S. administration doesn't take care of that in the next four years.

Neighboring Arab states absorbing Palestinian co-religionists are likely to be even less tolerant than the Israelis have been when it comes to terrorism directed at destabilizing their new hosts, which should be interesting to observe.

Co-religionists? Where are the Christians going?

I don't think the estimated 1,000 Christians in the Gaza Strip, are a big problem for anyone.

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Anonymous wrote:It's time for the pro-Hamas efforts to garner sympathy for terrorists to give it up. Palestinian terror is not going to stop, and neither will the efforts to eradicate the bad actors, and so the civilian casualties will continue. It's an endless cycle started, sustained, and perpetuated by them. Leave them to it.

It is time for pro Israeli crowd to give back the land they stole from the Palestinians. All Israelis can go back to their countries of origin.

Except that's not happening, no matter how hard you wish for it in thread after thread you start.

The Palestinians, on the other hand, have behaved for 77 years in ways which have alienated everyone who opposes terror and corruption as a way of life. Using their land and foreign aid mostly to develop a warren of subterranean military facilities instead of to build a strong and stable civil society, has not endeared them to many, either. Their only "friend" is Iran, which uses them simply as expendable proxies to attack Israel without usually exposing themselves to the same kind of direct retaliation.

Once Gaza is cleared out, the tunnels can be filled with water or concrete, trees can be planted there to help the environment, and Israel can focus on eventually bringing about the downfall of the Iranian terror regime if the current U.S. administration doesn't take care of that in the next four years.

Neighboring Arab states absorbing Palestinian co-religionists are likely to be even less tolerant than the Israelis have been when it comes to terrorism directed at destabilizing their new hosts, which should be interesting to observe.

Co-religionists? Where are the Christians going?

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Anonymous wrote:It's time for the pro-Hamas efforts to garner sympathy for terrorists to give it up. Palestinian terror is not going to stop, and neither will the efforts to eradicate the bad actors, and so the civilian casualties will continue. It's an endless cycle started, sustained, and perpetuated by them. Leave them to it.

It is time for pro Israeli crowd to give back the land they stole from the Palestinians. All Israelis can go back to their countries of origin.

Except that's not happening, no matter how hard you wish for it in thread after thread you start.

The Palestinians, on the other hand, have behaved for 77 years in ways which have alienated everyone who opposes terror and corruption as a way of life. Using their land and foreign aid mostly to develop a warren of subterranean military facilities instead of to build a strong and stable civil society, has not endeared them to many, either. Their only "friend" is Iran, which uses them simply as expendable proxies to attack Israel without usually exposing themselves to the same kind of direct retaliation.

Once Gaza is cleared out, the tunnels can be filled with water or concrete, trees can be planted there to help the environment, and Israel can focus on eventually bringing about the downfall of the Iranian terror regime if the current U.S. administration doesn't take care of that in the next four years.

Neighboring Arab states absorbing Palestinian co-religionists are likely to be even less tolerant than the Israelis have been when it comes to terrorism directed at destabilizing their new hosts, which should be interesting to observe.

Anonymous wrote:It's time for the pro-Hamas efforts to garner sympathy for terrorists to give it up. Palestinian terror is not going to stop, and neither will the efforts to eradicate the bad actors, and so the civilian casualties will continue. It's an endless cycle started, sustained, and perpetuated by them. Leave them to it.

It is time for pro Israeli crowd to give back the land they stole from the Palestinians. All Israelis can go back to their countries of origin.

It's time for the pro-Hamas efforts to garner sympathy for terrorists to give it up. Palestinian terror is not going to stop, and neither will the efforts to eradicate the bad actors, and so the civilian casualties will continue. It's an endless cycle started, sustained, and perpetuated by them. Leave them to it.

An insightful take on the cognitive dissonance of many Israelis:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFSgWcUIBeX/?igsh=N2lpNzZxZW82ZWFx

Look at the speaker's eyes. It is clear that, like many other Palestinian captives, he has suffered. He describes beatings, sexual abuse, attacks by dogs, sleep deprivation, and hunger at the hands of his Israeli tormentors. Oh, and they told him he'd be killed if he speaks out! I hope the perpetrators will be held accountable:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFSuuLFtTtr/?igsh=MXV6NTQxeWF3d281OA%3D%3D

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Anonymous wrote:Well, it looks like we'll soon be back to the status quo before Oct 7, minus 47K Palestinians and a much smaller number of Israelis. It's easy to conclude that since Hamas is neither renouncing violence nor their goal of exterminating Israel that they will rearm and try and fail again - let's revisit this thread in a few months or years to see if this prediction proves accurate.

100% true. As a matter of fact, you can find threads on DCUM from 10 or so years ago with the same ridiculous and hateful comments between the supporters of the two sides in the conflict.

I've never met an American Jewish or Palestinian person that didn't seem like kind and peaceful souls. Why are Jews and Palestinians in the Middle East so hateful, intolerant, and murderous? Is it just the so called leaders of both sides that are so terrible or are many of the regular people in that region terrible too?

Because there’s an apartheid. Keep clutching your pearls though. If you lived on the oppressed side of an apartheid, you’d be terrible as you call it too.

It's not apartheid to keep terrorists at arm's length. If the terror were to stop for more than a few weeks, perhaps the restrictions imposed on the Gazans for security reasons would be progressively reduced. We're unlikely to ever find out, because the devotion to terror is unlikely to be relinquished, and security measures to suppress it will consequently remain in place. There is no reward for terror activity.

So many words to drench us in your Israeli propaganda spittle …

The founders of Israel are the reason modern day terrorism exists. They accomplished the aims of early Zionism through terrorism. Full stop.

So for you to say that “there is no reward for terror activity”, you’ve got some real chutzpah …

As far as everything else you wasted our time with, do you realize what kind of a deranged POS moron you look like arguing that Israel “perhaps” might have progressively reduced the destructive effects of their occupation, blockade, etc. in Gaza when the rest of the world has already watched Israel do the diametric opposite in response to 20+ years of complete and uninterrupted capitulation in the West Bank? But we’re supposed to believe that Israel would have eased the suffering in Gaza after “a few weeks” of “know your place, boy” compliance?

Honestly - F right off the first bridge you can find. You don’t deserve to breathe the same air as the people trying to work toward global peace. You’re an impediment to peace, and that’s hardly surprising given your allegiance.

The reward for terrorist activity is death and destruction, so there is that. As long as they keep it up, that's their result. They can stop, or not. The consequences of not stopping are clear and have always been so over the last 77 years.

What? It’s difficult to understand your garbled proclamations when you’re hidden behind Uncle Sam’s pant legs.

? Are you referring to how the U.S. is an Israeli ally, while Gaza is a client state of the U.N. and Iran?

Ally?

You’re our welfare recipient. Don’t get it twisted and think we’re equals. We’re not, nor have we ever been so.

I see that you firmly believe that the conditions that have led to that welfare arrangement (our superpower status, you’re weasel-y system of corrupting our political class into paying your bills and fighting those you seek to destroy) will never change, that you are quite content with the status quo.

From that, I’ll conclude that you will be gravely, gravely disappointed as the pages of history turn and you are forced to learn that this, like all things that have come before, is a transient period.

We won’t remain the only superpower. We will eventually turn 180 on Israel. You have a 0 - 0% probability of being able to establish alternate means of protection or self-sufficiency when that time arrives. How Israel has conducted its affairs to that point will inform the decisions re: consequences.

Having “the bomb” doesn’t mean a thing if we can strike you before you can do anything with it. That will always be the case. If we don’t want you with it, you won’t have it. The end.

If you think the U.S. will launch a preemptive nuclear attack on Israel, ever, you have a rich fantasy life. Back in the real world, acts of terror will continue to have a price, as we will no doubt see in real time again soon enough.

In your simplistic, vengeful mind, the only way to disarm is through attack.

Oh, sweet summer child, indeed.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, it looks like we'll soon be back to the status quo before Oct 7, minus 47K Palestinians and a much smaller number of Israelis. It's easy to conclude that since Hamas is neither renouncing violence nor their goal of exterminating Israel that they will rearm and try and fail again - let's revisit this thread in a few months or years to see if this prediction proves accurate.

100% true. As a matter of fact, you can find threads on DCUM from 10 or so years ago with the same ridiculous and hateful comments between the supporters of the two sides in the conflict.

I've never met an American Jewish or Palestinian person that didn't seem like kind and peaceful souls. Why are Jews and Palestinians in the Middle East so hateful, intolerant, and murderous? Is it just the so called leaders of both sides that are so terrible or are many of the regular people in that region terrible too?

Because there’s an apartheid. Keep clutching your pearls though. If you lived on the oppressed side of an apartheid, you’d be terrible as you call it too.

It's not apartheid to keep terrorists at arm's length. If the terror were to stop for more than a few weeks, perhaps the restrictions imposed on the Gazans for security reasons would be progressively reduced. We're unlikely to ever find out, because the devotion to terror is unlikely to be relinquished, and security measures to suppress it will consequently remain in place. There is no reward for terror activity.

So many words to drench us in your Israeli propaganda spittle …

The founders of Israel are the reason modern day terrorism exists. They accomplished the aims of early Zionism through terrorism. Full stop.

So for you to say that “there is no reward for terror activity”, you’ve got some real chutzpah …

As far as everything else you wasted our time with, do you realize what kind of a deranged POS moron you look like arguing that Israel “perhaps” might have progressively reduced the destructive effects of their occupation, blockade, etc. in Gaza when the rest of the world has already watched Israel do the diametric opposite in response to 20+ years of complete and uninterrupted capitulation in the West Bank? But we’re supposed to believe that Israel would have eased the suffering in Gaza after “a few weeks” of “know your place, boy” compliance?

Honestly - F right off the first bridge you can find. You don’t deserve to breathe the same air as the people trying to work toward global peace. You’re an impediment to peace, and that’s hardly surprising given your allegiance.

The reward for terrorist activity is death and destruction, so there is that. As long as they keep it up, that's their result. They can stop, or not. The consequences of not stopping are clear and have always been so over the last 77 years.

What? It’s difficult to understand your garbled proclamations when you’re hidden behind Uncle Sam’s pant legs.

? Are you referring to how the U.S. is an Israeli ally, while Gaza is a client state of the U.N. and Iran?

lol ally? Trump just told you to jump through the hoop and you did. Do not act like you are an actual country capable of entering in to alliances on your own. On your own you do not exist.

You should be down on your knees praying to the US every day.

PP …

That’s the most astounding part of this entire circus.

How TF can someone observe Israel’s policies and actions, and then literally believe, and expect others to believe, all four of these things at the same time …

1. We’re chosen people - by god. Srsly.

(But throughout history, we literally, repeatedly have demonstrated a complete inability to get along with any other group or nation - like, ever)

2. We sincerely seek peace, but our decades-long system of “pre-emptive self-defense” is the only way to prevent the existential threats and looming annihilation facing Israel.

(FAFO Guy: In any conflict between Israel and another group or nation, only Israel is allowed to defend itself (co-signed enthusiastically by corrupted officials at State and in Congress). Also, nobody can stop us!)

3. Terrorism is unacceptable!

(As long as we have sole authority to define exactly what is and what isn’t terrorism, can shift those definitions to suit our needs in shielding our founders and the entirety of IDF conduct since 1948, and always have final say on what is terrorism, what is a genocide, etc.)

4. We’re an ally to the U.S.!

(And by ally, we mean that the U.S. sends us more foreign aid than all other foreign countries combined, that officials in America (corrupted and motivated by foreign state lobbying, looney tunes Evangelical weirdo syndrome, or racism) serve us and not their constituents, and that America puts Israeli interests above its own - at all times. Then, in return, we won’t allow the U.S. to use our airspace for critical missions. We won’t allow them to use our military facilities under any scenario. We won’t join their alliances in fighting wars we instigate with knowingly false intelligence. But … we will attack and kill U.S. sailors if we think they are monitoring our communications because they don’t trust our intentions, and then claim it was “a mistake”. And we will send our uncivilized Eastern European imports masquerading as descendants from the holy land to college campuses in the U.S. to viciously attack those protesting Israel’s policies and actions.)

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Anonymous wrote:Well, it looks like we'll soon be back to the status quo before Oct 7, minus 47K Palestinians and a much smaller number of Israelis. It's easy to conclude that since Hamas is neither renouncing violence nor their goal of exterminating Israel that they will rearm and try and fail again - let's revisit this thread in a few months or years to see if this prediction proves accurate.

100% true. As a matter of fact, you can find threads on DCUM from 10 or so years ago with the same ridiculous and hateful comments between the supporters of the two sides in the conflict.

I've never met an American Jewish or Palestinian person that didn't seem like kind and peaceful souls. Why are Jews and Palestinians in the Middle East so hateful, intolerant, and murderous? Is it just the so called leaders of both sides that are so terrible or are many of the regular people in that region terrible too?

Because there’s an apartheid. Keep clutching your pearls though. If you lived on the oppressed side of an apartheid, you’d be terrible as you call it too.

It's not apartheid to keep terrorists at arm's length. If the terror were to stop for more than a few weeks, perhaps the restrictions imposed on the Gazans for security reasons would be progressively reduced. We're unlikely to ever find out, because the devotion to terror is unlikely to be relinquished, and security measures to suppress it will consequently remain in place. There is no reward for terror activity.

So many words to drench us in your Israeli propaganda spittle …

The founders of Israel are the reason modern day terrorism exists. They accomplished the aims of early Zionism through terrorism. Full stop.

So for you to say that “there is no reward for terror activity”, you’ve got some real chutzpah …

As far as everything else you wasted our time with, do you realize what kind of a deranged POS moron you look like arguing that Israel “perhaps” might have progressively reduced the destructive effects of their occupation, blockade, etc. in Gaza when the rest of the world has already watched Israel do the diametric opposite in response to 20+ years of complete and uninterrupted capitulation in the West Bank? But we’re supposed to believe that Israel would have eased the suffering in Gaza after “a few weeks” of “know your place, boy” compliance?

Honestly - F right off the first bridge you can find. You don’t deserve to breathe the same air as the people trying to work toward global peace. You’re an impediment to peace, and that’s hardly surprising given your allegiance.

The reward for terrorist activity is death and destruction, so there is that. As long as they keep it up, that's their result. They can stop, or not. The consequences of not stopping are clear and have always been so over the last 77 years.

What? It’s difficult to understand your garbled proclamations when you’re hidden behind Uncle Sam’s pant legs.

? Are you referring to how the U.S. is an Israeli ally, while Gaza is a client state of the U.N. and Iran?

Ally?

You’re our welfare recipient. Don’t get it twisted and think we’re equals. We’re not, nor have we ever been so.

I see that you firmly believe that the conditions that have led to that welfare arrangement (our superpower status, you’re weasel-y system of corrupting our political class into paying your bills and fighting those you seek to destroy) will never change, that you are quite content with the status quo.

From that, I’ll conclude that you will be gravely, gravely disappointed as the pages of history turn and you are forced to learn that this, like all things that have come before, is a transient period.

We won’t remain the only superpower. We will eventually turn 180 on Israel. You have a 0 - 0% probability of being able to establish alternate means of protection or self-sufficiency when that time arrives. How Israel has conducted its affairs to that point will inform the decisions re: consequences.

Having “the bomb” doesn’t mean a thing if we can strike you before you can do anything with it. That will always be the case. If we don’t want you with it, you won’t have it. The end.

If you think the U.S. will launch a preemptive nuclear attack on Israel, ever, you have a rich fantasy life. Back in the real world, acts of terror will continue to have a price, as we will no doubt see in real time again soon enough.