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Anonymous wrote:Check out the top article of the front page of the NYT this morning about how the overwhelming majority of Americans want to disengage from meddling abroad.

Dual loyalty folks from Bethesda are a very small minority that has a powerful grip on Washington that has not only split and destroyed the Democratic Party but completely lost the plot on what is good for their fellow Americans.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/harris-gaza

Supporting the genocide cost democrats the presidency.

Only because the ignorant and careless American voters fail to realize that not just one, but both of our major parties are bought and paid for by their ultra wealthy mega donors which include strong supporters of Israel. Our government's fully committed and unconditional support for Israel will continue under a GOP administration. Israel is an ally in the region and we should support them but in a balanced, fair, and humanitarian way.

For a more balanced approach to conflicts in that region of the Middle East, the Palestinians need to pony up with cash donated to the RNC or DNC each election cycle or our country needs to somehow force our two parties into agreeing on campaign finance reform that removes a great deal of monetary influence from politics and government policy. Neither of these potential solutions are likely to happen.

Anonymous wrote:Check out the top article of the front page of the NYT this morning about how the overwhelming majority of Americans want to disengage from meddling abroad.

Dual loyalty folks from Bethesda are a very small minority that has a powerful grip on Washington that has not only split and destroyed the Democratic Party but completely lost the plot on what is good for their fellow Americans.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/harris-gaza

Supporting the genocide cost democrats the presidency.

Check out the top article of the front page of the NYT this morning about how the overwhelming majority of Americans want to disengage from meddling abroad.

Dual loyalty folks from Bethesda are a very small minority that has a powerful grip on Washington that has not only split and destroyed the Democratic Party but completely lost the plot on what is good for their fellow Americans.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, it looks like we'll soon be back to the status quo before Oct 7, minus 47K Palestinians and a much smaller number of Israelis. It's easy to conclude that since Hamas is neither renouncing violence nor their goal of exterminating Israel that they will rearm and try and fail again - let's revisit this thread in a few months or years to see if this prediction proves accurate.

100% true. As a matter of fact, you can find threads on DCUM from 10 or so years ago with the same ridiculous and hateful comments between the supporters of the two sides in the conflict.

I've never met an American Jewish or Palestinian person that didn't seem like kind and peaceful souls. Why are Jews and Palestinians in the Middle East so hateful, intolerant, and murderous? Is it just the so called leaders of both sides that are so terrible or are many of the regular people in that region terrible too?

Because there’s an apartheid. Keep clutching your pearls though. If you lived on the oppressed side of an apartheid, you’d be terrible as you call it too.

It's not apartheid to keep terrorists at arm's length. If the terror were to stop for more than a few weeks, perhaps the restrictions imposed on the Gazans for security reasons would be progressively reduced. We're unlikely to ever find out, because the devotion to terror is unlikely to be relinquished, and security measures to suppress it will consequently remain in place. There is no reward for terror activity.

This makes sense if completely true but Palestinians and much of the world claim that they are oppressed by both the Israeli government and Hamas. Are you saying that all "Gazans" are dangerous terrorists and there is no clear distinction between normal Palestinians and Hamas?

The IDF does not distinguish between Hamas and 3 year olds.

https://www.haaretz.com/2024-12-23/ty-article/.premium/when-you-enter-gaza-you-are-god-inside-the-minds-of-idf-soldiers-who-commit-war-crimes/00000193-f043-d354-a59f-ff670ac80000

Ahh, I see so we should be directing our anger towards the IDF and Hamas and not the good innocent Jewish and Palestinian people. This is all starting to make sense now. I think we're making progress! Now lets figure out who is sponsoring/funding Hamas and the IDF and then we can get rid of those awful people so that peace can be restored in the region!

End the occupation and apartheid.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/

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Anonymous wrote:Well, it looks like we'll soon be back to the status quo before Oct 7, minus 47K Palestinians and a much smaller number of Israelis. It's easy to conclude that since Hamas is neither renouncing violence nor their goal of exterminating Israel that they will rearm and try and fail again - let's revisit this thread in a few months or years to see if this prediction proves accurate.

100% true. As a matter of fact, you can find threads on DCUM from 10 or so years ago with the same ridiculous and hateful comments between the supporters of the two sides in the conflict.

I've never met an American Jewish or Palestinian person that didn't seem like kind and peaceful souls. Why are Jews and Palestinians in the Middle East so hateful, intolerant, and murderous? Is it just the so called leaders of both sides that are so terrible or are many of the regular people in that region terrible too?

Because there’s an apartheid. Keep clutching your pearls though. If you lived on the oppressed side of an apartheid, you’d be terrible as you call it too.

So why do the idiot American voters continue to vote for two parties that support the oppressors?

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/american-israel-public-affairs-cmte/summary?toprecipcycle=2024&contribcycle=2024&lobcycle=2024&outspendcycle=2024&id=D000046963&topnumcycle=2024

Rank #22 in contributions in 2024. It’s because they’ve paid for it.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, it looks like we'll soon be back to the status quo before Oct 7, minus 47K Palestinians and a much smaller number of Israelis. It's easy to conclude that since Hamas is neither renouncing violence nor their goal of exterminating Israel that they will rearm and try and fail again - let's revisit this thread in a few months or years to see if this prediction proves accurate.

100% true. As a matter of fact, you can find threads on DCUM from 10 or so years ago with the same ridiculous and hateful comments between the supporters of the two sides in the conflict.

I've never met an American Jewish or Palestinian person that didn't seem like kind and peaceful souls. Why are Jews and Palestinians in the Middle East so hateful, intolerant, and murderous? Is it just the so called leaders of both sides that are so terrible or are many of the regular people in that region terrible too?

Because there’s an apartheid. Keep clutching your pearls though. If you lived on the oppressed side of an apartheid, you’d be terrible as you call it too.

It's not apartheid to keep terrorists at arm's length. If the terror were to stop for more than a few weeks, perhaps the restrictions imposed on the Gazans for security reasons would be progressively reduced. We're unlikely to ever find out, because the devotion to terror is unlikely to be relinquished, and security measures to suppress it will consequently remain in place. There is no reward for terror activity.

This makes sense if completely true but Palestinians and much of the world claim that they are oppressed by both the Israeli government and Hamas. Are you saying that all "Gazans" are dangerous terrorists and there is no clear distinction between normal Palestinians and Hamas?

The IDF does not distinguish between Hamas and 3 year olds.

https://www.haaretz.com/2024-12-23/ty-article/.premium/when-you-enter-gaza-you-are-god-inside-the-minds-of-idf-soldiers-who-commit-war-crimes/00000193-f043-d354-a59f-ff670ac80000

Ahh, I see so we should be directing our anger towards the IDF and Hamas and not the good innocent Jewish and Palestinian people. This is all starting to make sense now. I think we're making progress! Now lets figure out who is sponsoring/funding Hamas and the IDF and then we can get rid of those awful people so that peace can be restored in the region!

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Anonymous wrote:Oh, look. The Hamas/Al Qaeda poster moved over here.

Oh look it’s a Zionist.

You know, for normal people Zionist isn't the insult you think it is. The vast majority of Americans believe in Israel's right to exist.

Zionism isn’t about a Jewish homeland in 2025 and it never really was about that - that was just the packaging to sell the script. Zionism represents the boundless evil and the implacable march toward conflict with others that is hardwired in the Eastern European DNA of the political class in Israel. They are not indigenous. They are aliens who cannot coexist with others. History has borne that out.

Besides, Jewish people should never have been forced to accept the argument that they could only be safe in some shitty sandbox across the planet. The rest of the world should have ensured that Jews could live safely anywhere.

Instead of that, we have this utterly failed experiment in Israel.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, it looks like we'll soon be back to the status quo before Oct 7, minus 47K Palestinians and a much smaller number of Israelis. It's easy to conclude that since Hamas is neither renouncing violence nor their goal of exterminating Israel that they will rearm and try and fail again - let's revisit this thread in a few months or years to see if this prediction proves accurate.

100% true. As a matter of fact, you can find threads on DCUM from 10 or so years ago with the same ridiculous and hateful comments between the supporters of the two sides in the conflict.

I've never met an American Jewish or Palestinian person that didn't seem like kind and peaceful souls. Why are Jews and Palestinians in the Middle East so hateful, intolerant, and murderous? Is it just the so called leaders of both sides that are so terrible or are many of the regular people in that region terrible too?

Because there’s an apartheid. Keep clutching your pearls though. If you lived on the oppressed side of an apartheid, you’d be terrible as you call it too.

It's not apartheid to keep terrorists at arm's length. If the terror were to stop for more than a few weeks, perhaps the restrictions imposed on the Gazans for security reasons would be progressively reduced. We're unlikely to ever find out, because the devotion to terror is unlikely to be relinquished, and security measures to suppress it will consequently remain in place. There is no reward for terror activity.

So many words to drench us in your Israeli propaganda spittle …

The founders of Israel are the reason modern day terrorism exists. They accomplished the aims of early Zionism through terrorism. Full stop.

So for you to say that “there is no reward for terror activity”, you’ve got some real chutzpah …

As far as everything else you wasted our time with, do you realize what kind of a deranged POS moron you look like arguing that Israel “perhaps” might have progressively reduced the destructive effects of their occupation, blockade, etc. in Gaza when the rest of the world has already watched Israel do the diametric opposite in response to 20+ years of complete and uninterrupted capitulation in the West Bank? But we’re supposed to believe that Israel would have eased the suffering in Gaza after “a few weeks” of “know your place, boy” compliance?

Honestly - F right off the first bridge you can find. You don’t deserve to breathe the same air as the people trying to work toward global peace. You’re an impediment to peace, and that’s hardly surprising given your allegiance.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh, look. The Hamas/Al Qaeda poster moved over here.

Oh look it’s a Zionist.

You know, for normal people Zionist isn't the insult you think it is. The vast majority of Americans believe in Israel's right to exist.

Anonymous wrote:Oh, look. The Hamas/Al Qaeda poster moved over here.

Oh look it’s a Zionist.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, it looks like we'll soon be back to the status quo before Oct 7, minus 47K Palestinians and a much smaller number of Israelis. It's easy to conclude that since Hamas is neither renouncing violence nor their goal of exterminating Israel that they will rearm and try and fail again - let's revisit this thread in a few months or years to see if this prediction proves accurate.

100% true. As a matter of fact, you can find threads on DCUM from 10 or so years ago with the same ridiculous and hateful comments between the supporters of the two sides in the conflict.

I've never met an American Jewish or Palestinian person that didn't seem like kind and peaceful souls. Why are Jews and Palestinians in the Middle East so hateful, intolerant, and murderous? Is it just the so called leaders of both sides that are so terrible or are many of the regular people in that region terrible too?

Because there’s an apartheid. Keep clutching your pearls though. If you lived on the oppressed side of an apartheid, you’d be terrible as you call it too.

It's not apartheid to keep terrorists at arm's length. If the terror were to stop for more than a few weeks, perhaps the restrictions imposed on the Gazans for security reasons would be progressively reduced. We're unlikely to ever find out, because the devotion to terror is unlikely to be relinquished, and security measures to suppress it will consequently remain in place. There is no reward for terror activity.

This makes sense if completely true but Palestinians and much of the world claim that they are oppressed by both the Israeli government and Hamas. Are you saying that all "Gazans" are dangerous terrorists and there is no clear distinction between normal Palestinians and Hamas?

The IDF does not distinguish between Hamas and 3 year olds.

https://www.haaretz.com/2024-12-23/ty-article/.premium/when-you-enter-gaza-you-are-god-inside-the-minds-of-idf-soldiers-who-commit-war-crimes/00000193-f043-d354-a59f-ff670ac80000

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Anonymous wrote:Well, it looks like we'll soon be back to the status quo before Oct 7, minus 47K Palestinians and a much smaller number of Israelis. It's easy to conclude that since Hamas is neither renouncing violence nor their goal of exterminating Israel that they will rearm and try and fail again - let's revisit this thread in a few months or years to see if this prediction proves accurate.

100% true. As a matter of fact, you can find threads on DCUM from 10 or so years ago with the same ridiculous and hateful comments between the supporters of the two sides in the conflict.

I've never met an American Jewish or Palestinian person that didn't seem like kind and peaceful souls. Why are Jews and Palestinians in the Middle East so hateful, intolerant, and murderous? Is it just the so called leaders of both sides that are so terrible or are many of the regular people in that region terrible too?

Because there’s an apartheid. Keep clutching your pearls though. If you lived on the oppressed side of an apartheid, you’d be terrible as you call it too.

It's not apartheid to keep terrorists at arm's length. If the terror were to stop for more than a few weeks, perhaps the restrictions imposed on the Gazans for security reasons would be progressively reduced. We're unlikely to ever find out, because the devotion to terror is unlikely to be relinquished, and security measures to suppress it will consequently remain in place. There is no reward for terror activity.

Zionist hasbera talking points desperate to make Palestinians the pariah/other/evil nothing more.

Zionists do that well.

Oh, look. The Hamas/Al Qaeda poster moved over here.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, it looks like we'll soon be back to the status quo before Oct 7, minus 47K Palestinians and a much smaller number of Israelis. It's easy to conclude that since Hamas is neither renouncing violence nor their goal of exterminating Israel that they will rearm and try and fail again - let's revisit this thread in a few months or years to see if this prediction proves accurate.

100% true. As a matter of fact, you can find threads on DCUM from 10 or so years ago with the same ridiculous and hateful comments between the supporters of the two sides in the conflict.

I've never met an American Jewish or Palestinian person that didn't seem like kind and peaceful souls. Why are Jews and Palestinians in the Middle East so hateful, intolerant, and murderous? Is it just the so called leaders of both sides that are so terrible or are many of the regular people in that region terrible too?

Because there’s an apartheid. Keep clutching your pearls though. If you lived on the oppressed side of an apartheid, you’d be terrible as you call it too.

It's not apartheid to keep terrorists at arm's length. If the terror were to stop for more than a few weeks, perhaps the restrictions imposed on the Gazans for security reasons would be progressively reduced. We're unlikely to ever find out, because the devotion to terror is unlikely to be relinquished, and security measures to suppress it will consequently remain in place. There is no reward for terror activity.

This makes sense if completely true but Palestinians and much of the world claim that they are oppressed by both the Israeli government and Hamas. Are you saying that all "Gazans" are dangerous terrorists and there is no clear distinction between normal Palestinians and Hamas?

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Anonymous wrote:Well, it looks like we'll soon be back to the status quo before Oct 7, minus 47K Palestinians and a much smaller number of Israelis. It's easy to conclude that since Hamas is neither renouncing violence nor their goal of exterminating Israel that they will rearm and try and fail again - let's revisit this thread in a few months or years to see if this prediction proves accurate.

100% true. As a matter of fact, you can find threads on DCUM from 10 or so years ago with the same ridiculous and hateful comments between the supporters of the two sides in the conflict.

I've never met an American Jewish or Palestinian person that didn't seem like kind and peaceful souls. Why are Jews and Palestinians in the Middle East so hateful, intolerant, and murderous? Is it just the so called leaders of both sides that are so terrible or are many of the regular people in that region terrible too?

Because there’s an apartheid. Keep clutching your pearls though. If you lived on the oppressed side of an apartheid, you’d be terrible as you call it too.

It's not apartheid to keep terrorists at arm's length. If the terror were to stop for more than a few weeks, perhaps the restrictions imposed on the Gazans for security reasons would be progressively reduced. We're unlikely to ever find out, because the devotion to terror is unlikely to be relinquished, and security measures to suppress it will consequently remain in place. There is no reward for terror activity.