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Anonymous wrote:A number of responses to my post have entirely misconstrued what I wrote, so I’m not sure it’s worth arguing.

If you are dismayed by child marriage, do something about ending it where you live - because it’s still happening at an alarming rate. https://www.unchainedatlast.org/child-marriage-in-the-u-s/

I very clearly stated that the Epstein case is disgusting because it is TRAFFICKING of human beings, which is disgusting at any age but particularly when the victims are young and vulnerable for any number of reasons.

Nevertheless, it is NOT pedophilia for 18+ year old men and women to be sexually attracted to 14-19 year old boys and girls. Those who argue that it is have a beef with basic biology and also with the entire psychological/psychiatric professional globally.

Much of our advertising and entertainment industry utilizes later teenage bodies to sell products and media, and tens of millions of Americans feel sexual feelings looking at those younger but sexually mature bodies. Again, we are primates and these are basic biological urges. It is not warped or sick to be attracted to a sexually mature human being.

And again as I already said, acting on that attraction is a different thing. If there is love and nurture in a real relationship involved, it isn’t always a horrible thing.

Certainly most of you wouldn’t want your 19 or 20 year old son to be called a pedophile for falling in love/lust with a 15 or 16 year old girl, which happens all the time in the real world - in part because boys mentally mature much more slowly than girls at those ages.

And the other example I gave, Celine Dion who met her husband when she was 12 and he was decades older. They didn’t marry until she was 20 and I’m sure they didn’t have physical relations until she was late teens, but I have little doubt he sexually admired her 15, 16, 17 year old body. He also loved her dearly and they had by all accounts a wonderful marriage into which they brought multiple children. Was he a sick twisted pedophile?

I’d love nothing more than to see every last person who assisted Epstein in his trafficking scheme be held accountable, including bankers who helped him launder money etc. At very least these people should be outed and ostracized, because it’s likely for many of the crimes the SOL has run.

How old were Epstein and Trump ( and summers and pulte and ehud Barack, etc) when these events transpired
though?

Were they 19 and 20 year old college kids?

No? Say again? They were well past middle age, you say?

I understand what pp is saying. Precision of language matters. Know what terms mean if you’re going to use them. Epstein and friends engaged in trafficking, rape, coercion. They are vile, disgusting people who committed crimes and traumatised who know how many vulnerable teenagers. It doesn’t have to be ‘Pedophilia” to be disgusting. What they did was disgusting and criminal on its own terms. You don’t have to throw a term around that doesn’t actually apply to somehow make it criminal.

spare me the “AC-tuallly” energy. The pp you are quoting is pointing out how broke the “you wouldn’t want your 19 year old accused!” anaology is when applied to a gaggle of 60 year old billionaires.

I’m very well aware of the definitions of the terms because I deal with these matters on a professional basis. I do not think it matters even a tiny bit if the general public refers to the as pedophilia.

Anonymous wrote:A number of responses to my post have entirely misconstrued what I wrote, so I’m not sure it’s worth arguing.

If you are dismayed by child marriage, do something about ending it where you live - because it’s still happening at an alarming rate. https://www.unchainedatlast.org/child-marriage-in-the-u-s/

I very clearly stated that the Epstein case is disgusting because it is TRAFFICKING of human beings, which is disgusting at any age but particularly when the victims are young and vulnerable for any number of reasons.

Nevertheless, it is NOT pedophilia for 18+ year old men and women to be sexually attracted to 14-19 year old boys and girls. Those who argue that it is have a beef with basic biology and also with the entire psychological/psychiatric professional globally.

Much of our advertising and entertainment industry utilizes later teenage bodies to sell products and media, and tens of millions of Americans feel sexual feelings looking at those younger but sexually mature bodies. Again, we are primates and these are basic biological urges. It is not warped or sick to be attracted to a sexually mature human being.

And again as I already said, acting on that attraction is a different thing. If there is love and nurture in a real relationship involved, it isn’t always a horrible thing.

Certainly most of you wouldn’t want your 19 or 20 year old son to be called a pedophile for falling in love/lust with a 15 or 16 year old girl, which happens all the time in the real world - in part because boys mentally mature much more slowly than girls at those ages.

And the other example I gave, Celine Dion who met her husband when she was 12 and he was decades older. They didn’t marry until she was 20 and I’m sure they didn’t have physical relations until she was late teens, but I have little doubt he sexually admired her 15, 16, 17 year old body. He also loved her dearly and they had by all accounts a wonderful marriage into which they brought multiple children. Was he a sick twisted pedophile?

I’d love nothing more than to see every last person who assisted Epstein in his trafficking scheme be held accountable, including bankers who helped him launder money etc. At very least these people should be outed and ostracized, because it’s likely for many of the crimes the SOL has run.

Anonymous wrote:Epstein video deposition

Q. Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?

Jeffery Epstein: Though I'd like to answer that question, I'm going to have to assert my Fifth, Sixth, and 14th Amendment rights.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A number of responses to my post have entirely misconstrued what I wrote, so I’m not sure it’s worth arguing.

If you are dismayed by child marriage, do something about ending it where you live - because it’s still happening at an alarming rate. https://www.unchainedatlast.org/child-marriage-in-the-u-s/

I very clearly stated that the Epstein case is disgusting because it is TRAFFICKING of human beings, which is disgusting at any age but particularly when the victims are young and vulnerable for any number of reasons.

Nevertheless, it is NOT pedophilia for 18+ year old men and women to be sexually attracted to 14-19 year old boys and girls. Those who argue that it is have a beef with basic biology and also with the entire psychological/psychiatric professional globally.

Much of our advertising and entertainment industry utilizes later teenage bodies to sell products and media, and tens of millions of Americans feel sexual feelings looking at those younger but sexually mature bodies. Again, we are primates and these are basic biological urges. It is not warped or sick to be attracted to a sexually mature human being.

And again as I already said, acting on that attraction is a different thing. If there is love and nurture in a real relationship involved, it isn’t always a horrible thing.

Certainly most of you wouldn’t want your 19 or 20 year old son to be called a pedophile for falling in love/lust with a 15 or 16 year old girl, which happens all the time in the real world - in part because boys mentally mature much more slowly than girls at those ages.

And the other example I gave, Celine Dion who met her husband when she was 12 and he was decades older. They didn’t marry until she was 20 and I’m sure they didn’t have physical relations until she was late teens, but I have little doubt he sexually admired her 15, 16, 17 year old body. He also loved her dearly and they had by all accounts a wonderful marriage into which they brought multiple children. Was he a sick twisted pedophile?

I’d love nothing more than to see every last person who assisted Epstein in his trafficking scheme be held accountable, including bankers who helped him launder money etc. At very least these people should be outed and ostracized, because it’s likely for many of the crimes the SOL has run.

How old were Epstein and Trump ( and summers and pulte and ehud Barack, etc) when these events transpired
though?

Were they 19 and 20 year old college kids?

No? Say again? They were well past middle age, you say?

I understand what pp is saying. Precision of language matters. Know what terms mean if you’re going to use them. Epstein and friends engaged in trafficking, rape, coercion. They are vile, disgusting people who committed crimes and traumatised who know how many vulnerable teenagers. It doesn’t have to be ‘Pedophilia” to be disgusting. What they did was disgusting and criminal on its own terms. You don’t have to throw a term around that doesn’t actually apply to somehow make it criminal.

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Any grown man remotely interested in a 15 year old, is a massive red flag in sickness.

17 and 15? ok. 35 and 15? You're a pedophile, pervert, and incredibly sick.

But I feel compelled to point out that not even 100 years ago, so within the last 2-3 generations, it was the societal norm for men in their late 20s and early 30s to marry teenaged girls. The men had established themselves sufficient to support a family and the girls were sexually mature and ready to be a wife/mother.

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Anonymous wrote:A number of responses to my post have entirely misconstrued what I wrote, so I’m not sure it’s worth arguing.

If you are dismayed by child marriage, do something about ending it where you live - because it’s still happening at an alarming rate. https://www.unchainedatlast.org/child-marriage-in-the-u-s/

I very clearly stated that the Epstein case is disgusting because it is TRAFFICKING of human beings, which is disgusting at any age but particularly when the victims are young and vulnerable for any number of reasons.

Nevertheless, it is NOT pedophilia for 18+ year old men and women to be sexually attracted to 14-19 year old boys and girls. Those who argue that it is have a beef with basic biology and also with the entire psychological/psychiatric professional globally.

Much of our advertising and entertainment industry utilizes later teenage bodies to sell products and media, and tens of millions of Americans feel sexual feelings looking at those younger but sexually mature bodies. Again, we are primates and these are basic biological urges. It is not warped or sick to be attracted to a sexually mature human being.

And again as I already said, acting on that attraction is a different thing. If there is love and nurture in a real relationship involved, it isn’t always a horrible thing.

Certainly most of you wouldn’t want your 19 or 20 year old son to be called a pedophile for falling in love/lust with a 15 or 16 year old girl, which happens all the time in the real world - in part because boys mentally mature much more slowly than girls at those ages.

And the other example I gave, Celine Dion who met her husband when she was 12 and he was decades older. They didn’t marry until she was 20 and I’m sure they didn’t have physical relations until she was late teens, but I have little doubt he sexually admired her 15, 16, 17 year old body. He also loved her dearly and they had by all accounts a wonderful marriage into which they brought multiple children. Was he a sick twisted pedophile?

I’d love nothing more than to see every last person who assisted Epstein in his trafficking scheme be held accountable, including bankers who helped him launder money etc. At very least these people should be outed and ostracized, because it’s likely for many of the crimes the SOL has run.

How old were Epstein and Trump ( and summers and pulte and ehud Barack, etc) when these events transpired
though?

Were they 19 and 20 year old college kids?

No? Say again? They were well past middle age, you say?

I understand what pp is saying. Precision of language matters. Know what terms mean if you’re going to use them. Epstein and friends engaged in trafficking, rape, coercion. They are vile, disgusting people who committed crimes and traumatised who know how many vulnerable teenagers. It doesn’t have to be ‘Pedophilia” to be disgusting. What they did was disgusting and criminal on its own terms. You don’t have to throw a term around that doesn’t actually apply to somehow make it criminal.

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t it pretty obvious at this point that Todd Blanche is part of a cover up? In her testimony Maxwell said she never saw Trump at Epstein’s house and Todd Blanche had the emails with Maxwell and Epstein communicating about Trump being at Epstein’s house. Any good lawyer would have questioned her on that.

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Anonymous wrote:A number of responses to my post have entirely misconstrued what I wrote, so I’m not sure it’s worth arguing.

If you are dismayed by child marriage, do something about ending it where you live - because it’s still happening at an alarming rate. https://www.unchainedatlast.org/child-marriage-in-the-u-s/

I very clearly stated that the Epstein case is disgusting because it is TRAFFICKING of human beings, which is disgusting at any age but particularly when the victims are young and vulnerable for any number of reasons.

Nevertheless, it is NOT pedophilia for 18+ year old men and women to be sexually attracted to 14-19 year old boys and girls. Those who argue that it is have a beef with basic biology and also with the entire psychological/psychiatric professional globally.

Much of our advertising and entertainment industry utilizes later teenage bodies to sell products and media, and tens of millions of Americans feel sexual feelings looking at those younger but sexually mature bodies. Again, we are primates and these are basic biological urges. It is not warped or sick to be attracted to a sexually mature human being.

And again as I already said, acting on that attraction is a different thing. If there is love and nurture in a real relationship involved, it isn’t always a horrible thing.

Certainly most of you wouldn’t want your 19 or 20 year old son to be called a pedophile for falling in love/lust with a 15 or 16 year old girl, which happens all the time in the real world - in part because boys mentally mature much more slowly than girls at those ages.

And the other example I gave, Celine Dion who met her husband when she was 12 and he was decades older. They didn’t marry until she was 20 and I’m sure they didn’t have physical relations until she was late teens, but I have little doubt he sexually admired her 15, 16, 17 year old body. He also loved her dearly and they had by all accounts a wonderful marriage into which they brought multiple children. Was he a sick twisted pedophile?

I’d love nothing more than to see every last person who assisted Epstein in his trafficking scheme be held accountable, including bankers who helped him launder money etc. At very least these people should be outed and ostracized, because it’s likely for many of the crimes the SOL has run.

How old were Epstein and Trump ( and summers and pulte and ehud Barack, etc) when these events transpired
though?

Were they 19 and 20 year old college kids?

No? Say again? They were well past middle age, you say?

Anonymous wrote:A number of responses to my post have entirely misconstrued what I wrote, so I’m not sure it’s worth arguing.

If you are dismayed by child marriage, do something about ending it where you live - because it’s still happening at an alarming rate. https://www.unchainedatlast.org/child-marriage-in-the-u-s/

I very clearly stated that the Epstein case is disgusting because it is TRAFFICKING of human beings, which is disgusting at any age but particularly when the victims are young and vulnerable for any number of reasons.

Nevertheless, it is NOT pedophilia for 18+ year old men and women to be sexually attracted to 14-19 year old boys and girls. Those who argue that it is have a beef with basic biology and also with the entire psychological/psychiatric professional globally.

Much of our advertising and entertainment industry utilizes later teenage bodies to sell products and media, and tens of millions of Americans feel sexual feelings looking at those younger but sexually mature bodies. Again, we are primates and these are basic biological urges. It is not warped or sick to be attracted to a sexually mature human being.

And again as I already said, acting on that attraction is a different thing. If there is love and nurture in a real relationship involved, it isn’t always a horrible thing.

Certainly most of you wouldn’t want your 19 or 20 year old son to be called a pedophile for falling in love/lust with a 15 or 16 year old girl, which happens all the time in the real world - in part because boys mentally mature much more slowly than girls at those ages.

And the other example I gave, Celine Dion who met her husband when she was 12 and he was decades older. They didn’t marry until she was 20 and I’m sure they didn’t have physical relations until she was late teens, but I have little doubt he sexually admired her 15, 16, 17 year old body. He also loved her dearly and they had by all accounts a wonderful marriage into which they brought multiple children. Was he a sick twisted pedophile?

I’d love nothing more than to see every last person who assisted Epstein in his trafficking scheme be held accountable, including bankers who helped him launder money etc. At very least these people should be outed and ostracized, because it’s likely for many of the crimes the SOL has run.

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Suspicious. Maybe Johnson knows Justice has removed files.

They might be trying to get ahead of more leaks that may make more people vote for release. Including senators.

Oh baby, it’s spun. Johnson thinks he was so clever to close the House and shut down the economy. So everyone stayed home and focused more on Trump and what the GOP in DC is doing.

Beyond watching Trump demolish part of the White House, Americans were able to focus on the Epstein files broadening the interest to everyone instead of just the MAGA faithful.

So if Mikey thinks he can sweep this away he’s in for a surprise. Everyone wonders what is so awful that it justified the shutdown.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Suspicious. Maybe Johnson knows Justice has removed files.

They might be trying to get ahead of more leaks that may make more people vote for release. Including senators.

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t it pretty obvious at this point that Todd Blanche is part of a cover up? In her testimony Maxwell said she never saw Trump at Epstein’s house and Todd Blanche had the emails with Maxwell and Epstein communicating about Trump being at Epstein’s house. Any good lawyer would have questioned her on that.

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Anonymous wrote:

Suspicious. Maybe Johnson knows Justice has removed files.