Anonymous wrote:If the woman had not been so bloodied and injured, this would have been a case of he said/she said. Thankfully, her injuries were significant and horrific enough that he would have been convicted of rape and had to settle.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did.… I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.”
She did not consent to this encounter
She did not consent
No consent = rape
She was raped.
She feels she did not consent does not mean she did not consent. When she said no he stopped.
What they had was a communication issue.
Oh cool. So that explains her blood on his shirt and the bruise on her neck.
Can you explain why she went onto party and brag about his penis and having sex with him?
I have yet to find this reported by any reputable news source. At all.
Funny that the links to this article have been conveniently scrubbed from the internet.
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=956
Funny, the NBC person “quoted” in the “article” doesn’t seem to actually exist.
Oh, so nooooow NBC is not reputable?Only when bashing Trump are they the gold standard!
You can't make it up.
Of course it is. But the clipping you’ve posted twice now doesn’t appear to be real.
Also, Tariq, welcome to DCUM.
Nice try. Just admit your bias.
Okay, here goes: I’m biased toward the whole truth.
Great, then you should welcome the additional information and context that the was bragging to friends about the encounter and the size of his member.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did.… I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.”
She did not consent to this encounter
She did not consent
No consent = rape
She was raped.
She feels she did not consent does not mean she did not consent. When she said no he stopped.
What they had was a communication issue.
Oh cool. So that explains her blood on his shirt and the bruise on her neck.
Can you explain why she went onto party and brag about his penis and having sex with him?
I have yet to find this reported by any reputable news source. At all.
Funny that the links to this article have been conveniently scrubbed from the internet.
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=956
Funny, the NBC person “quoted” in the “article” doesn’t seem to actually exist.
Oh, so nooooow NBC is not reputable?Only when bashing Trump are they the gold standard!
You can't make it up.
Of course it is. But the clipping you’ve posted twice now doesn’t appear to be real.
Also, Tariq, welcome to DCUM.
Nice try. Just admit your bias.
Okay, here goes: I’m biased toward the whole truth.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did.… I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.”
She did not consent to this encounter
She did not consent
No consent = rape
She was raped.
She feels she did not consent does not mean she did not consent. When she said no he stopped.
What they had was a communication issue.
Oh cool. So that explains her blood on his shirt and the bruise on her neck.
Can you explain why she went onto party and brag about his penis and having sex with him?
I have yet to find this reported by any reputable news source. At all.
Funny that the links to this article have been conveniently scrubbed from the internet.
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=956
Funny, the NBC person “quoted” in the “article” doesn’t seem to actually exist.
Oh, so nooooow NBC is not reputable?Only when bashing Trump are they the gold standard!
You can't make it up.
Of course it is. But the clipping you’ve posted twice now doesn’t appear to be real.
Also, Tariq, welcome to DCUM.
Nice try. Just admit your bias.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did.… I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.”
She did not consent to this encounter
She did not consent
No consent = rape
She was raped.
She feels she did not consent does not mean she did not consent. When she said no he stopped.
What they had was a communication issue.
Oh cool. So that explains her blood on his shirt and the bruise on her neck.
Can you explain why she went onto party and brag about his penis and having sex with him?
I have yet to find this reported by any reputable news source. At all.
Funny that the links to this article have been conveniently scrubbed from the internet.
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=956
Funny, the NBC person “quoted” in the “article” doesn’t seem to actually exist.
Oh, so nooooow NBC is not reputable?Only when bashing Trump are they the gold standard!
You can't make it up.
Of course it is. But the clipping you’ve posted twice now doesn’t appear to be real.
Also, Tariq, welcome to DCUM.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did.… I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.”
She did not consent to this encounter
She did not consent
No consent = rape
She was raped.
She feels she did not consent does not mean she did not consent. When she said no he stopped.
What they had was a communication issue.
Oh cool. So that explains her blood on his shirt and the bruise on her neck.
Can you explain why she went onto party and brag about his penis and having sex with him?
I have yet to find this reported by any reputable news source. At all.
Funny that the links to this article have been conveniently scrubbed from the internet.
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=956
Funny, the NBC person “quoted” in the “article” doesn’t seem to actually exist.
Oh, so nooooow NBC is not reputable?Only when bashing Trump are they the gold standard!
You can't make it up.
Of course it is. But the clipping you’ve posted twice now doesn’t appear to be real.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did.… I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.”
She did not consent to this encounter
She did not consent
No consent = rape
She was raped.
She feels she did not consent does not mean she did not consent. When she said no he stopped.
What they had was a communication issue.
Oh cool. So that explains her blood on his shirt and the bruise on her neck.
Can you explain why she went onto party and brag about his penis and having sex with him?
I have yet to find this reported by any reputable news source. At all.
Funny that the links to this article have been conveniently scrubbed from the internet.
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=956
Funny, the NBC person “quoted” in the “article” doesn’t seem to actually exist.
Oh, so nooooow NBC is not reputable?Only when bashing Trump are they the gold standard!
You can't make it up.
Of course it is. But the clipping you’ve posted twice now doesn’t appear to be real.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did.… I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.”
She did not consent to this encounter
She did not consent
No consent = rape
She was raped.
She feels she did not consent does not mean she did not consent. When she said no he stopped.
What they had was a communication issue.
Oh cool. So that explains her blood on his shirt and the bruise on her neck.
Can you explain why she went onto party and brag about his penis and having sex with him?
I have yet to find this reported by any reputable news source. At all.
Funny that the links to this article have been conveniently scrubbed from the internet.
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=956
Funny, the NBC person “quoted” in the “article” doesn’t seem to actually exist.
Oh, so nooooow NBC is not reputable?Only when bashing Trump are they the gold standard!
You can't make it up.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did.… I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.”
She did not consent to this encounter
She did not consent
No consent = rape
She was raped.
She feels she did not consent does not mean she did not consent. When she said no he stopped.
What they had was a communication issue.
Oh cool. So that explains her blood on his shirt and the bruise on her neck.
Can you explain why she went onto party and brag about his penis and having sex with him?
I have yet to find this reported by any reputable news source. At all.
Funny that the links to this article have been conveniently scrubbed from the internet.
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=956
Funny, the NBC person “quoted” in the “article” doesn’t seem to actually exist.
Only when bashing Trump are they the gold standard!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He had a charmed life inspire of the rape. His legacy is huge ànd frankly unmatched And unparalleled, but will always be tarnished by the past.
When people die, people look at your whole life. He was lucky that these allegations did not dog him when he was alive.
For the poster who says that he redeemed himself because he raised 4 daughters have put very low bar on what it means to be a feminist. He raised 4 daughters because 4 daughters were born to him. He did not choose daughters over sons. Any decent parent should love and care for their offspring. This was no testimonial to him being a great dad to his daughters.
Finally, people who have pointed out the rape allegations just wanted to set the record straight, but they are equally devastated because he is no more. These allegations are still attAched to his name because he did no time and did not pay his dues to the society for that one thing.
Newsflash, not everyone wants to be a feminist, nor was that the poster's claim. The majority of women don't even self-identify as feminist.
Also, your post makes no sense. If they are just allegations, why would he pay dues or do time? Are you suggesting that mere allegations are sufficient to convict now? Sure seems like it.
Redemption comes from acknowledging what he did was wrong and serving time for it. He paid hush money of 2.5 million. But his wife got the rape rock of 4 million. So there was that. Anyways, his mortal life is over and what the tarnish is, remains for perpetuity.
I don't know what the arrangement was with Kobe and Vanessa, but many sports wives know their husbands will be sleeping with other women. That is part of the basis of the bargain. They just don't want it to be sloppy and public, so as not to embarrass them.
Also, who died and made you the arbiter of defining societal redemption? You can do something wrong, without doing something criminal. Kobe probably learned a lot about the nuances of consent and a bunch of other things from this. That doesn't not mean he is a rapist.
Well, then poor Venessa. Yes. He is a rapist. This was not even Brock Turner - thwarted rape, outercourse kind of a scenario. This was rape that would have got him serious jail time if he had not settled.
No. He is not a rapist. See? We can both make definitive statements on items about which we have no idea. The nerve.
He is like Trump. You can't change the view point of the apologists of the pu$$ygrabber. Even though Trump is the most bestest stable genius president that he have had.
Ok, DP. Your argument is invalid when you’re comparing Kobe’s ONE situation to Donald Trump.
Kobe stopped when asked to stop, and then he apologized. And settled. But comparing him to trump means you don’t have a leg to stand on to argue with. Cmon.
Trump, Clinton, Kobe, kavanugh, josh duggar. They all have something in common. Sexual assault ACCUSATIONS.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did.… I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.”
She did not consent to this encounter
She did not consent
No consent = rape
She was raped.
She feels she did not consent does not mean she did not consent. When she said no he stopped.
What they had was a communication issue.
Oh cool. So that explains her blood on his shirt and the bruise on her neck.
Can you explain why she went onto party and brag about his penis and having sex with him?
I have yet to find this reported by any reputable news source. At all.
Funny that the links to this article have been conveniently scrubbed from the internet.
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=956
Funny, the NBC person “quoted” in the “article” doesn’t seem to actually exist.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He had a charmed life inspire of the rape. His legacy is huge ànd frankly unmatched And unparalleled, but will always be tarnished by the past.
When people die, people look at your whole life. He was lucky that these allegations did not dog him when he was alive.
For the poster who says that he redeemed himself because he raised 4 daughters have put very low bar on what it means to be a feminist. He raised 4 daughters because 4 daughters were born to him. He did not choose daughters over sons. Any decent parent should love and care for their offspring. This was no testimonial to him being a great dad to his daughters.
Finally, people who have pointed out the rape allegations just wanted to set the record straight, but they are equally devastated because he is no more. These allegations are still attAched to his name because he did no time and did not pay his dues to the society for that one thing.
Newsflash, not everyone wants to be a feminist, nor was that the poster's claim. The majority of women don't even self-identify as feminist.
Also, your post makes no sense. If they are just allegations, why would he pay dues or do time? Are you suggesting that mere allegations are sufficient to convict now? Sure seems like it.
Redemption comes from acknowledging what he did was wrong and serving time for it. He paid hush money of 2.5 million. But his wife got the rape rock of 4 million. So there was that. Anyways, his mortal life is over and what the tarnish is, remains for perpetuity.
I don't know what the arrangement was with Kobe and Vanessa, but many sports wives know their husbands will be sleeping with other women. That is part of the basis of the bargain. They just don't want it to be sloppy and public, so as not to embarrass them.
Also, who died and made you the arbiter of defining societal redemption? You can do something wrong, without doing something criminal. Kobe probably learned a lot about the nuances of consent and a bunch of other things from this. That doesn't not mean he is a rapist.
Well, then poor Venessa. Yes. He is a rapist. This was not even Brock Turner - thwarted rape, outercourse kind of a scenario. This was rape that would have got him serious jail time if he had not settled.
No. He is not a rapist. See? We can both make definitive statements on items about which we have no idea. The nerve.
He is like Trump. You can't change the view point of the apologists of the pu$$ygrabber. Even though Trump is the most bestest stable genius president that he have had.
Ok, DP. Your argument is invalid when you’re comparing Kobe’s ONE situation to Donald Trump.
Kobe stopped when asked to stop, and then he apologized. And settled. But comparing him to trump means you don’t have a leg to stand on to argue with. Cmon.
Trump, Clinton, Kobe, kavanugh, josh duggar. They all have something in common. Sexual assault.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He had a charmed life inspire of the rape. His legacy is huge ànd frankly unmatched And unparalleled, but will always be tarnished by the past.
When people die, people look at your whole life. He was lucky that these allegations did not dog him when he was alive.
For the poster who says that he redeemed himself because he raised 4 daughters have put very low bar on what it means to be a feminist. He raised 4 daughters because 4 daughters were born to him. He did not choose daughters over sons. Any decent parent should love and care for their offspring. This was no testimonial to him being a great dad to his daughters.
Finally, people who have pointed out the rape allegations just wanted to set the record straight, but they are equally devastated because he is no more. These allegations are still attAched to his name because he did no time and did not pay his dues to the society for that one thing.
Newsflash, not everyone wants to be a feminist, nor was that the poster's claim. The majority of women don't even self-identify as feminist.
Also, your post makes no sense. If they are just allegations, why would he pay dues or do time? Are you suggesting that mere allegations are sufficient to convict now? Sure seems like it.
Redemption comes from acknowledging what he did was wrong and serving time for it. He paid hush money of 2.5 million. But his wife got the rape rock of 4 million. So there was that. Anyways, his mortal life is over and what the tarnish is, remains for perpetuity.
I don't know what the arrangement was with Kobe and Vanessa, but many sports wives know their husbands will be sleeping with other women. That is part of the basis of the bargain. They just don't want it to be sloppy and public, so as not to embarrass them.
Also, who died and made you the arbiter of defining societal redemption? You can do something wrong, without doing something criminal. Kobe probably learned a lot about the nuances of consent and a bunch of other things from this. That doesn't not mean he is a rapist.
Well, then poor Venessa. Yes. He is a rapist. This was not even Brock Turner - thwarted rape, outercourse kind of a scenario. This was rape that would have got him serious jail time if he had not settled.
No. He is not a rapist. See? We can both make definitive statements on items about which we have no idea. The nerve.
He is like Trump. You can't change the view point of the apologists of the pu$$ygrabber. Even though Trump is the most bestest stable genius president that he have had.
Ok, DP. Your argument is invalid when you’re comparing Kobe’s ONE situation to Donald Trump.
Kobe stopped when asked to stop, and then he apologized. And settled. But comparing him to trump means you don’t have a leg to stand on to argue with. Cmon.